What is "the Big Lie"?

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ZNP

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The mainstream media will tell you that "The Big Lie is the false claim that the 2020 election was stolen from Donald Trump and that the Republicans who affirmed Biden’s victory were part of a conspiracy to defeat their own party’s presidential candidate."

But that is not the big lie, that isn't even a small lie. No, the big lie is huge, much, much bigger than that. To understand the big lie we need to go back to 9/11

You should remember that they told you we were attacked by Iraq, that was false. The hijackers were from Saudi Arabia, they were connected to Al Qaeda, neither of which had anything to do with Saddam Hussein. However, Bin Laden was a CIA asset and whatever his connection to 9/11 was he did not orchestrate it nor did those two airplanes bring down three buildings at the World Trade Center. Those buildings were loaded with explosives and demolished using Thermite, then the steel was sent to China to be melted down to destroy the evidence. They did this because they wanted a blank check for the military (which they got) and they wanted the Patriot Act to allow them to surveil the entire US (which they got). We had Artificial intelligence at this time (what you see in the public sector is 25 years behind the top secret military sector). Eagle Eye is a movie, and Person of Interest a TV show, they are both "fictional dramas" but are based on truth that the US government has artificial intelligence and massive surveillance in the US. The US is not behind China on this regard. Also they framed Iraq because the US wanted to maintain its influence in the middle East. They could not seize Saudi Arabia's oil fields so this was the next best thing. Also the two Gulf wars allowed us to build drones and robots and test them in the field, integrating them with AI.

The big banks knew what went down, but rather than rat out the powers that be they demanded a payoff. So they allowed them to rob the American people. What they did was sell NINJA mortgages (No Income No Job Approval). The way it works is for five years you pay every dime you have for the mortgage on your house and then the interest payment balloons, your mortgage payment doubles, you can't afford it, you go bankrupt and the bank gets the house back. Imagine for five years you pay $2,000 a month, that is $120,000 you pay to the bank, and then your mortgage payment balloons to $4,000 a month, you default and they get to take your house and also keep the 120k. This is criminal, there are laws against this, but the US government declared the banks were too big to fail. They did not prosecute anyone for the Mortgage crisis, that is because if they did they would spill the beans on 911.

But by itself, even 911 and the 2008 Mortgage crisis are not "the big lie", only part of the picture. By 2019 they knew that they could replace 80% of workers with AI and robots. This was going to create a massive problem because the people they were going to fire were lawyers, doctors, Phds, very well educated people who could sue and afford a massive legal battle. The solution was the pandemic. Not only was this designed to break the back of the middle class, the backbone of democracy. It sent a boat load of money to companies like Amazon.com, Walmart and Facebook. Companies they controlled. But more importantly they were able to require everyone to take the vaccine, and many "booster" shots. Yes, these have caused many people to die and have health problems, but it wasn't a "kill shot". It simply set the stage. Now when the fortune 500 companies are ready to fire people they will be dropping like flies, so instead of layoffs AI will simply step in for all the sick and dying.

The truth they never wanted to tell people is that with AI and robots they really don't need 85% of the people on the planet. Rather than get people worried and upset about that they perpetrated the rumor that there would be UBI (universal basic income). They probably will have it but only for those who don't die and also for those who accept the CBDC, Central Bank Digital Currency. This is like shifting into high gear for the surveillance state. Every dollar you spend, every dollar you earn, they'll be watching you.

Now Trump could have come out in a way that would not have offended 40% of the US to the point they are "never trumpers", but that was not the goal. The goal was to divide the country 49% vs 49% fighting and squabbling over trivial matters while the complete takedown of the free world takes place. That is why Trump debated Biden in June before the Democratic National convention even chose Biden as their nominee. Biden was unable to keep this a 49 v. 49% split, and if people stop focusing on the election and unite behind Trump they are likely to realize what is really about to happen to them before they are ready. This debate gave the Democrats a fig leaf to replace Biden with someone who will make this a much more competitive race. That was Donald Trump assisting the Democrats to keep this country divided 49% v. 49%.
 

ZNP

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Here is what is quite amusing about all this. The ones who have pushed the "Big Lie" are in the Mainstream media. They were doing what they were told to protect their jobs. They get paid much more money than they should and have far fewer skills, so without their big fat jobs at the networks they would be virtually unemployable. At the very best they would see a precipitous drop in their standard of living. But here is what is so funny, with Deep Fake AI they will be the first to be replaced and their will be a huge financial incentive to replace them as well as the fact that the AI will be far more obedient to spread the official narrative they are trying to use to manipulate the masses.
 

ZNP

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Originally I had posted this in the News thread, but the moderators realizing there is a lot of fake news decided to move this to the conspiracy thread since conspiracies are batting 1,000. There is a lot more credibility in this thread than in the "news" thread.
 

wolfwint

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Originally I had posted this in the News thread, but the modweerators realizing there is a lot of fake news decided to move this to the conspiracy thread since conspiracies are batting 1,000. There is a lot more credibility in this thread than in the "news" thread.
Yes, thats why it is in this threat now.!
We can be relaxed about the future. Nothing will happen, what God is not allowing the devil and his helpers to do. Anyhow the antichrist and what is mention in revealation must come true. The World is on the way. But they are blind for it, because God plays no role in their planings and doings.
 

Susanna

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Originally I had posted this in the News thread, but the moderators realizing there is a lot of fake news decided to move this to the conspiracy thread since conspiracies are batting 1,000. There is a lot more credibility in this thread than in the "news" thread.
I’m sorry for breaking your heart, but the fact is that the government and so forth has not got a big scheme going. The people involved can hardly get a hold of their dressing code, much less agree on a deep state conspiracy. You have too much respect for the people being elected and/or hired.
 

ZNP

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I’m sorry for breaking your heart, but the fact is that the government and so forth has not got a big scheme going. The people involved can hardly get a hold of their dressing code, much less agree on a deep state conspiracy. You have too much respect for the people being elected and/or hired.
I highly doubt there are more than a handful of people who have this scheme, but the facts of what has happened since 9/11 are plain for all to see and there is a direct link between all of these things. I am a licensed stock broker and the laws that were violated in the 2008 mortgage crisis were clear, it is ridiculous that people didn't go to jail, there should have been a thousand people convicted of crimes, but there was no way to do that without it going up the chain and taking down the big wigs, and they definitely knew about 9/11. No one can deny that 9/11 resulted in a blank check for the military to upgrade and for them to build drones and robots and for the surveillance that Snowden blew the whistle on. It is also undeniable that people at the highest levels of government knew that Saddam Hussein was not working with Osama Bin Laden and that they lied in order to get both Gulf Wars. Also the idea that the pandemic was some naturally occurring disease has been all but completely and thoroughly debunked. Finally, why did the whole world agree to force this vaccine on billions of people? It certainly couldn't have been because of some financial incentive, nor could it have been because of science. Look at the data, the countries that did not vaccinate did the best with regards to Covid.

During Covid we saw China lock people in their apartments, we saw Australia build quarantine camps, we saw Canada freeze bank accounts and we saw the US attempt to use social media to manipulate the masses. That to me looks like they were experimenting with four different approaches to measure how effective they are. So why are they preparing for this massive worldwide martial law and doing a dress rehearsal?
 

HealthAndHappiness

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I highly doubt there are more than a handful of people who have this scheme, but the facts of what has happened since 9/11 are plain for all to see and there is a direct link between all of these things. I am a licensed stock broker and the laws that were violated in the 2008 mortgage crisis were clear, it is ridiculous that people didn't go to jail, there should have been a thousand people convicted of crimes, but there was no way to do that without it going up the chain and taking down the big wigs, and they definitely knew about 9/11. No one can deny that 9/11 resulted in a blank check for the military to upgrade and for them to build drones and robots and for the surveillance that Snowden blew the whistle on. It is also undeniable that people at the highest levels of government knew that Saddam Hussein was not working with Osama Bin Laden and that they lied in order to get both Gulf Wars. Also the idea that the pandemic was some naturally occurring disease has been all but completely and thoroughly debunked. Finally, why did the whole world agree to force this vaccine on billions of people? It certainly couldn't have been because of some financial incentive, nor could it have been because of science. Look at the data, the countries that did not vaccinate did the best with regards to Covid.

During Covid we saw China lock people in their apartments, we saw Australia build quarantine camps, we saw Canada freeze bank accounts and we saw the US attempt to use social media to manipulate the masses. That to me looks like they were experimenting with four different approaches to measure how effective they are. So why are they preparing for this massive worldwide martial law and doing a dress rehearsal?
Those "inept" gts of the world somehow were able to murder more of THEIR OWN people, taking more lives than all the wars put together in the last century.
 

kinda

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Such an open ended question...... Is there a way to narrow it down?



I remember watching a video of this Amish Community who said, something very close to this......We let everyone get Covid and after about two weeks, we all had natural immunity. One of the Amish leaders said, government education, government controlled health care, and the government are three institutions, that we are highly cautious about. Which probably explains why they like living a lifestyle, that is outside the American norm.
 

gb9

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Such an open ended question...... Is there a way to narrow it down?



I remember watching a video of this Amish Community who said, something very close to this......We let everyone get Covid and after about two weeks, we all had natural immunity. One of the Amish leaders said, government education, government controlled health care, and the government are three institutions, that we are highly cautious about. Which probably explains why they like living a lifestyle, that is outside the American norm.
saw this meme.. someone asked a Amish farmer how covid was in their community. the farmer replied " i don't know, we don't have t.v.'s ..
 

iamsoandso

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The Delegates run the nation not the politicians.
 

HealthAndHappiness

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Such an open ended question...... Is there a way to narrow it down?



I remember watching a video of this Amish Community who said, something very close to this......We let everyone get Covid and after about two weeks, we all had natural immunity. One of the Amish leaders said, government education, government controlled health care, and the government are three institutions, that we are highly cautious about. Which probably explains why they like living a lifestyle, that is outside the American norm.
I like Amish lifestyle as an agricultural small farm ideal. Don't agree with all their beliefs, but always enjoyed visiting them, the old world Mennonites and the bruderhoffs.

There was a time when a twenty something could have possibly won the lottery and been mother to her own personal community like that. One former member of CC threw that possibility away without so much as a second thought.

I know what you mean Kinda.
My health care is taking care of family, now self as healthy as I can. Would have been enjoying Mom's company right now if not for the damned excuse for "health care" she was subjected to buy my brother.
I have always been for parental education of their own children.
My govt is Jesus as my Lord, my King.
He has done a fine job of protecting and providing for me. It's all from above.

Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above and cometh down from the Father of lights...
 

iamsoandso

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the big corporations run the politicians...
I see it as the billionaires run the delegates(in the US) and they choose the politicians. The voters vote but the delegates nominate the candidate they were told to nominate by the billionaires(big corp's as you referred to) but that only applies to the US. In other nation's the billionaires do the same thing but depending on the type of government call it by different names and structure of government.
 

blueluna5

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A code psychopaths use.

I originally heard it on the news with the reporter interviewing kamala Harris. It's almost like an olive branch. You can even see her physically relax imo when he said it bc she knew he gave her the answer she needed. Aka Biden administration isn't doing anything wrong... it's "the big lie"

It's a brainwashing tactic.
 

iamsoandso

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Billionaires are the delegates. Delegates are placed there to fill the political gap between the billionaires and the political nominees because the billionaires are not suppose to be the delegates.
 

iamsoandso

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It's like a riddle,, Ramaswamy has 3 delegates, DeSantas 9 and Haley 93 but Trump has 2243 why bother with showing up at the debates in the first place when you already know your the nominee?
 

ZNP

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