What makes a prophet?

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Blain

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So I know some believe that prophets are not for today but this question is based on a what if scenario. I ask because there are so many so called prophets out there and most people have grown to the point that if any prophecy is given they automically disregard it and with all these false prophets today you cannot really blame them. I mean I went on tiktok today and just out of curiosity searched prophetic word and one lady literally made a prophecy because she woke up tasting cookie dough in her mouth.

This made me think, if a genuine prophet is out there what makes them different from the rest? what gifts coincide with a prophet? and how would one know if they have that calling? most think of prophets as fortune tellers but that is not what the role of a prophet is they are not fortune tellers they serve a purpose in the body.
 

Blade

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There are still Apostles, Prophets, preachers, teaches so forth to on. So yes there are prophets today.. well did not a prophet talk to Paul? We forget when we read Acts that is Christianity. Now in the past OT when a prophet spoke you best listen but today we have the sweet sweet holy Spirit in each of us so what did the prophet tell Paul? He could not tell him what to do only what would happen to the one that wore that belt.

Within each office God has put gifts like the prophet Word of Knowledge , Word of Wisdom, discernment of spirits, so forth so on. Those gifts must be there but today there are so many prophets that well I hear some say "I am not that kind of prophet" . Today something I wonder pray about and will not touch but this new "the prophetic" its allot of future telling. Prophet you really need to study and know because there are some that can tell you all kind of things about you or the like and its of God yet there are some that are saved and can tell you all about you and what you have on you and where you live yet its a familiar spirit.

Christians do tend to chase after this kind of stuff.. not wise. We read the word of God and it seems that they had all kind of signs and wonders all the time huh but no no so much time passes.. weeks months years. Just trying to say.. I never chase after the signs and wonders as oh wonderful as they are ,.. its His WORD!

A prophet never has to say they are prophet you know.
 

Blain

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There are still Apostles, Prophets, preachers, teaches so forth to on. So yes there are prophets today.. well did not a prophet talk to Paul? We forget when we read Acts that is Christianity. Now in the past OT when a prophet spoke you best listen but today we have the sweet sweet holy Spirit in each of us so what did the prophet tell Paul? He could not tell him what to do only what would happen to the one that wore that belt.

Within each office God has put gifts like the prophet Word of Knowledge , Word of Wisdom, discernment of spirits, so forth so on. Those gifts must be there but today there are so many prophets that well I hear some say "I am not that kind of prophet" . Today something I wonder pray about and will not touch but this new "the prophetic" its allot of future telling. Prophet you really need to study and know because there are some that can tell you all kind of things about you or the like and its of God yet there are some that are saved and can tell you all about you and what you have on you and where you live yet its a familiar spirit.

Christians do tend to chase after this kind of stuff.. not wise. We read the word of God and it seems that they had all kind of signs and wonders all the time huh but no no so much time passes.. weeks months years. Just trying to say.. I never chase after the signs and wonders as oh wonderful as they are ,.. its His WORD!

A prophet never has to say they are prophet you know.
TThank you for your reply it was very insightful and true. The thing is I fear that since there are so many so called prophets these days that the church has thrown out any possiblity of the prophetic. But a prophecy doesn't always need to be foretelling and for me at least the role of a prophet today is the help guidfe and lead others to a deeper place with him, but everyone wants to be a prophet it seems yet they don't consider the cost.

A prophet is usually not well recieved they usually undergo a lot of hardship because of their calling especially spiritually it is a heavy position to have not usually an easy one. But then I see all these so called prophets online all giving the same kind of messages that sicken me because they do not respect his voice they spit out words from their own mind and take it as from God and some know what their doing but they love the following they have

To claim to be a prophet means you more than anyone are held accountable for the words you speak it is a responsibility of great measure.
 

Omegatime

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Knowing the Father

  1. For thou art our Father, though Abraham does not know us and Israel does not acknowledge us; thou, O Lord, art our Father, our Redeemer from of old is thy name.

  2. Yet, O Lord, thou art our Father; we are the clay, and thou art our potter; we are all the work of thy hand.
  3. In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 He was in the beginning with God; 3 all things were made through him, and without him was not anything made that was made.

Want to know what the Father knows and what Jesus was teaching begin in the Old Testament, the age and ministry of the Father
 

ResidentAlien

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Look to God's word, it'll tell you the difference between a true prophet and one who is false.
 

JohnRH

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So I know some believe that prophets are not for today but this question is based on a what if scenario. I ask because there are so many so called prophets out there and most people have grown to the point that if any prophecy is given they automically disregard it and with all these false prophets today you cannot really blame them. I mean I went on tiktok today and just out of curiosity searched prophetic word and one lady literally made a prophecy because she woke up tasting cookie dough in her mouth.

This made me think, if a genuine prophet is out there what makes them different from the rest? what gifts coincide with a prophet? and how would one know if they have that calling? most think of prophets as fortune tellers but that is not what the role of a prophet is they are not fortune tellers they serve a purpose in the body.
If the Bible doesn't foretell it, then God hasn't foretold it.
All scripture is given ... that the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works. 2 Tim 3:16-17 (KJV)
Scripture is sufficient. If a man or woman makes an extra-biblical claim; know that God didn't say it.
 

Blain

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If the Bible doesn't foretell it, then God hasn't foretold it.
All scripture is given ... that the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works. 2 Tim 3:16-17 (KJV)
Scripture is sufficient. If a man or woman makes an extra-biblical claim; know that God didn't say it.
So would you say that there are no prophecies to be given?
 

JohnRH

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So would you say that there are no prophecies to be given?
There are prophecies to be given from one person to another; they're in the Bible exclusively and can be verified by examining Scripture.
 

GWH

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So would you say that there are no prophecies to be given?
Yes, that is exactly what the Bible indicates in the sense of future-telling, because the only remaining event in God's plan of salvation is the Second Coming about which no one knows when it will occur per MT 24:36.
 

Blain

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Yes, that is exactly what the Bible indicates in the sense of future-telling, because the only remaining event in God's plan of salvation is the Second Coming about which no one knows when it will occur per MT 24:36.
So the gift of prophecy is no more and there are no more prophets?
 

Hakawaka

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If the Bible doesn't foretell it, then God hasn't foretold it.
All scripture is given ... that the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works. 2 Tim 3:16-17 (KJV)
Scripture is sufficient. If a man or woman makes an extra-biblical claim; know that God didn't say it.
There will be prophets and teachers and all the gifts of the Spirit until the return of Jesus when we see Him face to face.

There are "extra-biblical" prophets in the Bible. The Bible mentions many prophets, even in the new testament and yet the Bible does not include all what these prophets prophetesses spoke!

I would agree that if a prophet claims something that goes against the Bible, we can throw that prophet's message out the window immediately.

But the Bible does not indeed tell you everything, it tells you about the most important thing, the Gospel, it includes some songs and poetry, it includes history books, it includes epistles to the churches where we can learn how to organize as a church, what to do and what not to do in the general sense.

But what is something that the Bible does not say nor can it ever say is what YOU should personally do in regards to your marriage life, to your job, where you should live, where God has called you to be. The reason the Bible cannot tell you these things is because there is no set answer, because not everyone is called to the same thing.
 

Blain

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I also do not think a prophet's sole purpose is foretelling, in my opinion they will always strenghten and encourage other believers always guiding them closer to God
 

Blain

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@Hakawaka would you consider this biblical or not?

When the time comes that the dark one returns, the young brother shall bring broken friendships and an age of justice.
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As soon as the sky is colored brightly, a victory shall usher forth a change of leadership and depravity.
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When the time comes that the sky turns red, a new bond shall cause an age of death and an era of harmony.
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When the moment comes that the day is shortest, two brothers shall bring an eternal night and new aggressions.
It shall be then, when silver turns to gold, the young brother shall cause an age of bliss.
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It shall be then, when fire burns blue, a random act of kindness shall usher forth a cursed age and an eternal night.
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When the moment comes that the world becomes shrouded in shadows, a refusal shall mark a rise of faith and a destruction of power.
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Upon the day wolves howl together, a golden haired man shall mark the beginning of a better future and a cursed age.

This was given to me by a friend via email
 

Blain

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And then this was given to me today

I sit upon thy word that thou has written upon my heart, speak thy truth oh God unto the masses
let his glory be known through thy servant who waits and listens for thy treasured words let the heavens open upon this land and his righteousness be shown throughout his church. Oh heavenly father how I thirst for you, how deep the hunger the desire the longing let me see my Lord let me hear let me speak let me serve.

For so deep the desire for thy truth that I have not the words to utter let your spirit speak in my place let the king come into this place where your servants rest waiting for you and you alone. let the lost hear thy message let the found seek the lost of wonderful one let your truth be the light upon our eyes.

listen, listen he comes with his armies his rod at the ready he brings forth his wonder and brightness the heavens bust open and the treasures that it holds. the mysteries and beauty the hidden ones will rise the land shall be shaken and his words shall command thy land to shake and open. out from the pit arises the evil that is to befall a sinful world that mocks the king with their lust and evil ways.

But for his children his heart beats for them and will shelter them in his loving arms he comes to snatch them wuicvkly in an instant he will do his promise for those whose hearts have kept him
. listen listen can you hear it? can you feel it? his nearness he draws ever closer his voice is calling be ready and joyful for though his wrath shall come upon the world of sin his love and everlasting glory shall rain down upon us his mysteries unlocked his power bounless. even as I write my heart beats faster my fingers on fire my body is shaking for how powerful is he that comes in the name of the king he speaks to his children and whispers into their thoughts, oh breath of life come unto us truth of the light break forth listen well dear ones let the spirit speak to you let these words make your heart race something is on the way it draws ever closer creeping unto an unbelieving world yes even those that are his who do not believe it comes in the dead of night he comes soon he draws himself to us he is on the way waiting for the command and he will eagerly snatch up his beloved

But to you of faithless world beware of his justice for he has spoken
 

Hakawaka

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@Hakawaka would you consider this biblical or not?

When the time comes that the dark one returns, the young brother shall bring broken friendships and an age of justice.
-------------------
As soon as the sky is colored brightly, a victory shall usher forth a change of leadership and depravity.
-------------------
When the time comes that the sky turns red, a new bond shall cause an age of death and an era of harmony.
-------------------
When the moment comes that the day is shortest, two brothers shall bring an eternal night and new aggressions.
It shall be then, when silver turns to gold, the young brother shall cause an age of bliss.
-------------------
It shall be then, when fire burns blue, a random act of kindness shall usher forth a cursed age and an eternal night.
-------------------
When the moment comes that the world becomes shrouded in shadows, a refusal shall mark a rise of faith and a destruction of power.
-------------------
Upon the day wolves howl together, a golden haired man shall mark the beginning of a better future and a cursed age.

This was given to me by a friend via email
What I take from this is is that what is considered good in the world often turns bad, and vice versa.

I don't see this going against the Bible in anyway no.

I would say the line about world becoming shrouded in shadows and refusal shall mark a rise of faith, i'd see it as the era of the mark of the beast. Think about how many Christians who have been "slacking" so to speak and not taking it very seriously, if they are alive when the mark of the beast hits, some of them will get very serious.
 

ResidentAlien

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TThank you for your reply it was very insightful and true. The thing is I fear that since there are so many so called prophets these days that the church has thrown out any possiblity of the prophetic. But a prophecy doesn't always need to be foretelling and for me at least the role of a prophet today is the help guidfe and lead others to a deeper place with him, but everyone wants to be a prophet it seems yet they don't consider the cost.

A prophet is usually not well recieved they usually undergo a lot of hardship because of their calling especially spiritually it is a heavy position to have not usually an easy one. But then I see all these so called prophets online all giving the same kind of messages that sicken me because they do not respect his voice they spit out words from their own mind and take it as from God and some know what their doing but they love the following they have

To claim to be a prophet means you more than anyone are held accountable for the words you speak it is a responsibility of great measure.
I take it you consider yourself to be a prophet?
 

Blain

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What I take from this is is that what is considered good in the world often turns bad, and vice versa.

I don't see this going against the Bible in anyway no.

I would say the line about world becoming shrouded in shadows and refusal shall mark a rise of faith, i'd see it as the era of the mark of the beast. Think about how many Christians who have been "slacking" so to speak and not taking it very seriously, if they are alive when the mark of the beast hits, some of them will get very serious.
that is actually what I was thinking to the mark of the beast is exactly what came to mind
 

GWH

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I also do not think a prophet's sole purpose is foretelling, in my opinion they will always strenghten and encourage other believers always guiding them closer to God
Yes, foretelling is only one aspect of being a prophet, which will cease per 1CR 13:8, with the other aspect being preaching/teaching, which gift we should desire to have per 1CR 14:1.
 

Blain

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I take it you consider yourself to be a prophet?
I am whatever he needs me to be at any given time, I have been told I am a prophet but I don't consider myself to be worthy. I may walk in the gift of prophecy but that doesn't make me a prophet
 

Hakawaka

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that is actually what I was thinking to the mark of the beast is exactly what came to mind
Thats usually how it is when flowing in the Spirit. Two people come to the same conclusion. Sometimes you talk with a brother or sister and you can finish each other sentences.