What the NT Teaches on "Salvation" (Sōtēria)

  • Christian Chat is a moderated online Christian community allowing Christians around the world to fellowship with each other in real time chat via webcam, voice, and text, with the Christian Chat app. You can also start or participate in a Bible-based discussion here in the Christian Chat Forums, where members can also share with each other their own videos, pictures, or favorite Christian music.

    If you are a Christian and need encouragement and fellowship, we're here for you! If you are not a Christian but interested in knowing more about Jesus our Lord, you're also welcome! Want to know what the Bible says, and how you can apply it to your life? Join us!

    To make new Christian friends now around the world, click here to join Christian Chat.
A

Atwood

Senior Member
May 1, 2014
4,995
52
48
This Thread is dedicated to an examination of
what the NT says on the topic of "Salvation," strictly defined.

I am only interested in verses which speak of "salvation," not rabbit paths. I am only interested in verses that use one of these words:
Salvation, save(s), saved, saving, Savior; that is
verses that contain a word in the sōzō group:

NT VOCABULARY FOR SALVATION: SŌZŌ GROUP
(save, savior, salvation)

σῴζω = (I) save,
σωτήρ = Savior,
σωτηρία = salvation,
σωτήριος =pert. to salvation, saving, delivering, preserving, bringing salvation.

(transliterated: sōzō, sōtēr, sōtēria, sōtērios)

(Of course the above includes inflected & declined forms, like past tense ["saved"], infinitive "to save," future "will save," KJV "thou savest").

For starters here is a verse where the only MUST-I-DO for salvation is believe.

"Sirs, what must I do to be saved?"

Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, & you shall be saved. (Acts 16).

This above saying is not an isolated instance; over & over in the Bible, salvation is presented only on the condition that man believes/has faith.

This thread is dedicated to what the Bible says, not to ecclesiastical & denominational recitations/pontifications -- long harangues devoid of scripture quotation. Of course if you don't have access to Greek, you may assume that when a literal Bible translation uses save, savior, salvation, the underlying Greek word is from the sōzō group.

There is no shortage of material on salvation in the NT.

This could be the theme verse:

Thou shalt call His name Jesus, for
He shall save His people from their sin.

He does the saving; believers are the saved, the savees. Here, as elsewhere, salvation is guaranteed to "His people." He shall save them from their sin. And that is eternal security of salvation.
 
So all you have to do is believe?

Jas 2:19 Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble.

That work for them?
 
Yes, they believe in a God and fear. Do they believe that Christ died for their sins and saved them? No.
You are taking scripture out of context, I can believe in the Lord but not believe he saved me, it is believing that Christ died for your sins and repenting that saves you.
 
Anyway does it matter? Let ever man believe his own beliefs and let God judge himself. Who are we to judge anyone? Let alone condemn them?
These threads are stupid, as it's full of judgment, hate and condemnation. Let's actually discuss the bible not these same old repetetive arguments that have gone on for 1000's of years. Who are we to think we can prove and finish something that has lasted so long? Let us all let the matter lie.
 
john832 said:
So all you have to do is believe?

Jas 2:19 Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble.

That work for them?
Click to expand...
If its a Romans 10:9-10 believing. Of course you know that the devils cannot believe and confess Christ in accordance with the Romans scripture. Why the forced conflict?

For the cause of Christ
Roger
 
john832 said:
So all you have to do is believe?

Jas 2:19 Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble.

That work for them?
Click to expand...

The word believe "pisteuo" can describe mere "mental assent belief," as in (James 2:19), or also include "trust and reliance" in Christ for salvation, as in (Acts 16:31). In James 2:19, nobody is questioning the fact that the demons also believe "mental assent" that "there is one God" but they do not believe/entrust their spiritual well being to Christ. Their trust and reliance is in Satan, as demonstrated by their rebellion in heaven and continuous evil works.

The demons believe "pisteuo" that there is one God but they are not saved. Believe "pisteuo" on the Lord Jesus Christ and you will be saved.
 
2 Timothy 1:10 But is now made manifest by the appearing of our Saviour (σωτηροσ ) Jesus Christ, who hath abolished death, and hath brought life and immortality to light through the gospel:
 
This is what saddens me most, do any of you think your bickering will change anyones beliefs? Would ot ever change yours? If not then it probaly won't change anyone elses beliefs. Instead of discussing (arguing) over the same topics with an air of superiority like "I'm right all else is wrong". We should be building each other up, you know, loving one another as we love ourselves. Is saying "you're wrong and are going to go to hell" nice and loving?
I honestly don't think so, but many are blind and won't stop their pointless rant that goes on and on and on...
You must agree to disagree and let God do the judging.
 
1 John 4:14 And we have seen and do testify that the Father sent the Son to be the Saviour (σωτηρα) of the world.
 
Matthew 14:30 But when he saw the wind boisterous, he was afraid; and beginning to sink, he cried, saying, Lord, save (σωσον) me.
 
wgeurts said:
Anyway does it matter? Let ever man believe his own beliefs and let God judge himself. Who are we to judge anyone? Let alone condemn them?
These threads are stupid, as it's full of judgment, hate and condemnation. Let's actually discuss the bible not these same old repetetive arguments that have gone on for 1000's of years. Who are we to think we can prove and finish something that has lasted so long? Let us all let the matter lie.
Click to expand...
wasn't this a post a judgement?
:confused:
 
Atwood,

This thread is dedicated to what the Bible says, not to ecclesiastical & denominational recitations/pontifications -- long harangues devoid of scripture quotation
Click to expand...

Actually, what you really mean is what you have interpreted it to mean. You have never shown you even understand what the Bible actually means and has meant from the beginning.


You have restricted this thread to ONLY your view which makes it quite meaningless.

But carry on......
 
Last edited:
(Joh 3:17) For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.-
σωθη.​
 
Last edited:
So I need need to feed the hungry, clothe the naked, visit anyone in prison, etc?
 
Is cut and pasting information on the Greek word supposed to make your point seem more authoritative, even though it had absolutely nothing to do with your claim?
 
Last said:
Is cut and pasting information on the Greek word supposed to make your point seem more authoritative, even though it had absolutely nothing to do with your claim?
Click to expand...
Get off the thread if you can't follow the OP's wishes or at least quit the belly aching.

OP---

This Thread is dedicated to an examination of
what the NT says on the topic of "Salvation," strictly defined.

I am only interested in verses which speak of "salvation," not rabbit paths. I am only interested in verses that use one of these words:
Salvation, save(s), saved, saving, Savior; that is
verses that contain a word in the sōzō group:

NT VOCABULARY FOR SALVATION: SŌZŌ GROUP
(save, savior, salvation)

σῴζω = (I) save,
σωτήρ = Savior,
σωτηρία = salvation,
σωτήριος =pert. to salvation, saving, delivering, preserving, bringing salvation.

(transliterated: sōzō, sōtēr, sōtēria, sōtērios)

(Of course the above includes inflected & declined forms, like past tense ["saved"], infinitive "to save," future "will save," KJV "thou savest").

For starters here is a verse where the only MUST-I-DO for salvation is believe.

"Sirs, what must I do to be saved?"

Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, & you shall be saved. (Acts 16).

This above saying is not an isolated instance; over & over in the Bible, salvation is presented only on the condition that man believes/has faith.

This thread is dedicated to what the Bible says, not to ecclesiastical & denominational recitations/pontifications -- long harangues devoid of scripture quotation. Of course if you don't have access to Greek, you may assume that when a literal Bible translation uses save, savior, salvation, the underlying Greek word is from thesōzō group.

There is no shortage of material on salvation in the NT.

This could be the theme verse:

Thou shalt call His name Jesus, for
He shall save His people from their sin.

He does the saving; believers are the saved, the savees. Here, as elsewhere, salvation is guaranteed to "His people." He shall save them from their sin. And that is eternal security of salvation.
 
Last edited:
Last said:
So I need need to feed the hungry, clothe the naked, visit anyone in prison, etc?
Click to expand...

This is all about doing good deeds.
If you see some one in need, and you have the ability to help them then you are suppose to help them.
Jesus says that if you deny to help some one, then you are denying Him.
 
Last said:
Is cut and pasting information on the Greek word supposed to make your point seem more authoritative, even though it had absolutely nothing to do with your claim?
Click to expand...

Please post one verse with the save, savior, or salvation it it to support your position.

Personally, I believe that John chapter 3 is the most comprehensive description that Jesus himself gave on our salvation.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Top Bottom
Back