no, it does not. it means you over in the u.k. and me here in the u.s would rather read modern English. that is all it means.
What translation do you use?
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no, it does not. it means you over in the u.k. and me here in the u.s would rather read modern English. that is all it means.
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psychomom
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of course you knew! haha
i had to look it up in the old fashioned 'book' called a dictionary when i was a youngster.
thanks for addressing the 'not all Christians are English speakers' biz.
i brought it up once here, and was encouraged by a KJV only-ist that
ppl were translating the KJV into other languages as quickly as they could...
I use the audio Greek and Hebrew version.
Nah, I just kid. I use the NKJV (sometimes), KJV mostly and the ESV. Sometimes I'll get curious and look at others as well.
Nah, I just kid. I use the NKJV (sometimes), KJV mostly and the ESV. Sometimes I'll get curious and look at others as well.
I use the Biblical Hebrew for the Old Testament, and Koine Greek for the New Testament!
Wait, those aren't translations, those ARE the original languages! LOL
I do use the original languages all the time, but I also have used NASB for years, till the Bible wore out, HCSB for a few years, the NLT till I found too many obvious "mistakes", and the ESV currently to supplement my ancient languages. I also like the Message for a VERY modern translation, although it must be compared to a literal translation for bias.
As for the KJV, I have lots of verses memorized, but I can't seem to get through all that archaic language.
Wait, those aren't translations, those ARE the original languages! LOL
I do use the original languages all the time, but I also have used NASB for years, till the Bible wore out, HCSB for a few years, the NLT till I found too many obvious "mistakes", and the ESV currently to supplement my ancient languages. I also like the Message for a VERY modern translation, although it must be compared to a literal translation for bias.
As for the KJV, I have lots of verses memorized, but I can't seem to get through all that archaic language.
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MadParrotWoman
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Hebrew and Greek has to be the ultimate goal for the Bible reader, I would love to be able to read and understand it's original language.
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elf3
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It really isn't hard to learn Greek and Hebrew. You can find on-line programs with Bill Mounce, and study videos and use the books and workbooks that go with the video.
Having a good background in English and German grammar can really help. It is much trickier if you don't have a grammar background, I admit!
Having a good background in English and German grammar can really help. It is much trickier if you don't have a grammar background, I admit!
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MadParrotWoman
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As long as there is money to be made we will have new bible versions. In the west we have bibles in abundance. There are souls on the earth that do not have access to bibles especially in their native languages.
The bible in it's most humble form is still Gods word. Read it, study it and give God thanks. Pile stacks of them on your bookcase and even the best super duper version is no good.
I use the KJV mainly because that is what we use at church and it is easiest to read what is being read from the pulpit. The old English of the KJV does lend itself to memorization and quoting very readily. But the KJV is not the only good translation available.
For the cause of Christ
Roger
The bible in it's most humble form is still Gods word. Read it, study it and give God thanks. Pile stacks of them on your bookcase and even the best super duper version is no good.
I use the KJV mainly because that is what we use at church and it is easiest to read what is being read from the pulpit. The old English of the KJV does lend itself to memorization and quoting very readily. But the KJV is not the only good translation available.
For the cause of Christ
Roger
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elf3
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Ok there shall be my downfall...grammar. Pittsburgh pa I think we have the worst grammar in the world...yinz, red up, crick, sliberty tubes, whatch yinz doin d'nite, jeet yet, picksburgh stillers...and that's the beginning of our language
one of our phrases actually has a negative meaning to others that actually means a positive when used properly. I blame it on all the steel mill pollution from way back in the day. 
Ok there shall be my downfall...grammar. Pittsburgh pa I think we have the worst grammar in the world...yinz, red up, crick, sliberty tubes, whatch yinz doin d'nite, jeet yet, picksburgh stillers...and that's the beginning of our language
en otha wohrds, too mush fawg smawgin da brain membrane..lol.. eh, alf? 
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elf3
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Well ya gotta figure wit all them jagoffs dawntawn n'at tryin ta red up things that ain't broke and not fixin things that is broke yeah its pretty messed. I'm sure yinz understand. Then there the jaggers but we won't get into that.
Hmm new Bible translation....Pittsburghgeese
Speaking of greek and hebrew... that was all greek to me. But as long as you understood what you said, I guess that's what matters.Ok there shall be my downfall...grammar. Pittsburgh pa I think we have the worst grammar in the world...yinz, red up, crick, sliberty tubes, whatch yinz doin d'nite, jeet yet, picksburgh stillers...and that's the beginning of our language
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elf3
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Here is an example of the pittsbughgeese "translation".
Luke 22:46 NIV "Why are you sleeping?" He asked them. "Get up and pray so that you will not fall into temptation."
Pittsburghgeese "Whatch yinz doin?" He asked "Yinz should be prayin so ya don't do anything stupid."
What ya think? Think I have something?
Yeah yeah I know....
Luke 22:46 NIV "Why are you sleeping?" He asked them. "Get up and pray so that you will not fall into temptation."
Pittsburghgeese "Whatch yinz doin?" He asked "Yinz should be prayin so ya don't do anything stupid."
What ya think? Think I have something?
Yeah yeah I know....
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MadParrotWoman
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elf3
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I use several translation versions for in-depth study purposes...
Primary is restored names of Yah translations:
Halleluyah Scriptures
Restored KJV
soon to get ISR Scripture
Additional resources:
Septuagint, or LXX
1611 KJV
1982 KJV
Interlinear Bible
E-bible verse comparisons
1986 Strongs Exhaustive Concordance
Primary is restored names of Yah translations:
Halleluyah Scriptures
Restored KJV
soon to get ISR Scripture
Additional resources:
Septuagint, or LXX
1611 KJV
1982 KJV
Interlinear Bible
E-bible verse comparisons
1986 Strongs Exhaustive Concordance
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psychomom
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here's to the American public school system!
(okay...i didn't r-e-a-l-l-y learn grammar till i studied Spanish for 7 years and French for 5.
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I mainly use and read my KJV - I love the beautiful poetic language. I am now doing some studying in the OT and I am using the NIV for easier reading - it is just easier to follow. I also have the ESV and the NRSV - I use them sometimes but not very often. Sometimes I have all 4 down when I am seriously studying something! I am contemplating getting a NASB . . .