What's More Annoying? Sabbath or Rapture Debates?
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Hmm I would add the Trinity Debates too, though those are more old school. Lol I remember when I was an Atheist going to attempt to troll Christians way back when they just had AOL chatrooms. It pretty much proved to be utterly fruitless as all the Christians just ignore me and continue on debating the Trinty lol.
The Sabbath I guess is a pretty common one, though I guess I can see some debate over that being actually practical because it seems like this was a big debate between Jesus and the Pharisees (though this makes it paradoxical that so many Sabbath debates occur now and then when one would assume that issue was settled in the 1st Century AD.) As for the Rapture I guess this debate has some merit in terms of debate as to when such an event will occur and what Rapture actually means and where this particular concept has deviated from the First Resurrection. I guess this is kinda a modern debate though historically speaking, pretty much it seems to me it is mostly brought on by the fan fiction like Left Behind as usual being taken a lil too literal instead of simply appreciated as fictional literature.
Between those three its a hard one to vote for lol. The Bible presents so much richer questions to ask though. In our current time we are able to even find either direct answers via scientific or archaeological evidence or supporting evidence for theories and claims postulated within the many books of the Bible. I feel such a perspective enriches the Bible too. I also find it ironic we live in one of the greatest ages of skepticism in the West regarding the Bible yet those same skeptics have by their own hands whether they are aware of it or not settled some of the biggest questions surrounding the Bible such as whether or not it is a fabrication is now disproven thanks to science (archaeology) and history, whether or not the people, places, etc. actually existed many of which were doubted for centuries have been re-discovered and excavated within only the last 50 years, study of genetics putting Darwin's common ancestor amoeba to bed, history proving improbable prophecies in the Bible became possible and fulfilled, etc.
The Sabbath I guess is a pretty common one, though I guess I can see some debate over that being actually practical because it seems like this was a big debate between Jesus and the Pharisees (though this makes it paradoxical that so many Sabbath debates occur now and then when one would assume that issue was settled in the 1st Century AD.) As for the Rapture I guess this debate has some merit in terms of debate as to when such an event will occur and what Rapture actually means and where this particular concept has deviated from the First Resurrection. I guess this is kinda a modern debate though historically speaking, pretty much it seems to me it is mostly brought on by the fan fiction like Left Behind as usual being taken a lil too literal instead of simply appreciated as fictional literature.
Between those three its a hard one to vote for lol. The Bible presents so much richer questions to ask though. In our current time we are able to even find either direct answers via scientific or archaeological evidence or supporting evidence for theories and claims postulated within the many books of the Bible. I feel such a perspective enriches the Bible too. I also find it ironic we live in one of the greatest ages of skepticism in the West regarding the Bible yet those same skeptics have by their own hands whether they are aware of it or not settled some of the biggest questions surrounding the Bible such as whether or not it is a fabrication is now disproven thanks to science (archaeology) and history, whether or not the people, places, etc. actually existed many of which were doubted for centuries have been re-discovered and excavated within only the last 50 years, study of genetics putting Darwin's common ancestor amoeba to bed, history proving improbable prophecies in the Bible became possible and fulfilled, etc.
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Why did you not have an option for both? Then again, there is also the fruitless debates about women in ministry which also has its share of threads.
I wish we could have more sound Bible teaching on how to be disciples. Hey, maybe I could start a thread on that? I've been meaning to for months, and months. I suppose it would either get no interest, or it would devolve into a works vs grace thread. That's another one you forgot to put up there. LOL
I shall be interested to see the final results of this poll!
I wish we could have more sound Bible teaching on how to be disciples. Hey, maybe I could start a thread on that? I've been meaning to for months, and months. I suppose it would either get no interest, or it would devolve into a works vs grace thread. That's another one you forgot to put up there. LOL
I shall be interested to see the final results of this poll!
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Because one is 'more' annoying. You can't have two competing sides both be 'more' annoying than the other.
Ok, then I think they are both equally annoying.
Well, probably the rapture debate bothers me more, because so many people have been deluded into believing in this fake rapture. I really don't care about the Sabbath discussion, I think people should use their own conscience and study the Bible and celebrate the Lord's Day or the Sabbath or both as they see fit.
In the end, I don't believe anyone is going to "lose" their salvation over eschatology OR the Sabbath, so why are we spending so much time discussing them, anyway? Of course, that is because I believe our relationship with Jesus Christ determines whether we are saved or not, not theology! Which is not to say that I don't use theology, read theology, study theology and apply it to my life in so many ways.
As one of my fellow students in Seminary said when I told him about a denomination I formerly attended that stated in their doctrinal statement that you are a heretic if you do not believe in a pre-trib, pre-Millennial rapture, "You are a heretic for a guess?" That really summed it up for me!
Well, probably the rapture debate bothers me more, because so many people have been deluded into believing in this fake rapture. I really don't care about the Sabbath discussion, I think people should use their own conscience and study the Bible and celebrate the Lord's Day or the Sabbath or both as they see fit.
In the end, I don't believe anyone is going to "lose" their salvation over eschatology OR the Sabbath, so why are we spending so much time discussing them, anyway? Of course, that is because I believe our relationship with Jesus Christ determines whether we are saved or not, not theology! Which is not to say that I don't use theology, read theology, study theology and apply it to my life in so many ways.
As one of my fellow students in Seminary said when I told him about a denomination I formerly attended that stated in their doctrinal statement that you are a heretic if you do not believe in a pre-trib, pre-Millennial rapture, "You are a heretic for a guess?" That really summed it up for me!
True story: Someone once informed my Dad that the rapture couldn't happen until everyone observed the Sabbath on the right day. So I think he won.
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Angela, women can be in ministry, but they just cannot be pastors, preachers, bishops, or deacons.
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sabbath debates are much more annoying...i rarely ever hear anyone turn the rapture into a salvation issue or an obedience issue...