What's your take on Gaza? Is Israel doing everything right?

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Are you suggesting we send them to Portland to share prison cells with woke Antifa protestors?

How about a firing squad after a tribunal? And those people in OR and elsewhere need to be held accountable for civil unrest, including those in office.
God gave the sword to keep peace!
 
How about a firing squad after a tribunal? And those people in OR and elsewhere need to be held accountable for civil unrest, including those in office.
God gave the sword to keep peace!
Yep, reminds me of Mark 15:13
 
I'm not ignoring the civil unrest, I have no issue with people being tried and prosecuted. But tortured? Executed?

I didn’t say anything about torture!?
As for the execution, this was for Hamas for what they did on Oct 7 and thereafter. The people who caused civil unrest in diff. States need to be held accountable— jail time/ prison. Most unacceptable!!
 
I didn’t say anything about torture!?
As for the execution, this was for Hamas for what they did on Oct 7 and thereafter. The people who caused civil unrest in diff. States need to be held accountable— jail time/ prison. Most unacceptable!!
Burn1986 suggested torture, you suggested firing squad. It makes absolutely no sense that Hamas would face a US firing squad and tribunal. Now if you live in Israel/Gaza then it might make sense to you, but not to me as I live in the US.

Conflating Antifa with Hamas makes no sense. Antifa is a domestic terrorist organization in the US while Hamas is a domestic terrorist organization in Israel. Two different countries, two different justice systems.
 
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Burn1986 suggested torture, you suggested firing squad. It makes absolutely no sense that Hamas would face a US firing squad and tribunal. Now if you live in Israel/Gaza then it might make sense to you, but not to me as I live in the US.

Conflating Antifa with Hamas makes no sense. Antifa is a domestic terrorist organization in the US while Hamas is a domestic terrorist organization in Israel. Two different countries, two different justice systems.

Conflating the 2 does make sense from the stand point that I was arguing; they’re both terrorists. Actually, Hamas is not in Israel, they’re based primarily in the Gaza Strip and other areas in the Middle East.
 
Conflating the 2 does make sense from the stand point that I was arguing; they’re both terrorists. Actually, Hamas is not in Israel, they’re based primarily in the Gaza Strip and other areas in the Middle East.
To my knowledge there are not two states, but if you treat them as two states Israel would not have the tribunal, then you need the UN to have a trial.
 
To my knowledge there are not two states, but if you treat them as two states Israel would not have the tribunal, then you need the UN to have a trial.

I wasn’t trying to be so exacting. Anyway, they are separate. The UN does nothing much….
 
I wasn’t trying to be so exacting. Anyway, they are separate. The UN does nothing much….
They have jurisdiction. God gave them jurisdiction and they will be judged by God for how they carry out their responsibility. Meanwhile you and I will be judged for how we handle our responsibility and that includes if we try to usurp someone else's responsibility.
 
They have jurisdiction. God gave them jurisdiction and they will be judged by God for how they carry out their responsibility. Meanwhile you and I will be judged for how we handle our responsibility and that includes if we try to usurp someone else's responsibility.

I wasn’t trying to usurp any authority. It’s just a discussion about some serious issues.

Vengeance belongs to God, I’m more interested in holding people accountable for their destructive, heinous behavior. Do I love them? Of course!
 
I'd argued since 10/8/23 and my gene-sister (who's a pastor) shared a call for the destruction of Israel that the 'Palestinian problem' calls for a Shermanesque solution.

The answer is simple, but requires more will than the world is willing to do.

1) Relocate all the 'Palestinians.' Jordan, the Sinai, Murdo station, doesn't matter where. See WW II for the precedent and how that works.

2) Level, Occupy, Rebuild. Everything. The culture (well give them one) the education, the social structure. That takes 40-60 years AT LEAST to teach the new generations and let the old die out. Again, see post WW II.

Gaza Delende Est.

This would entail some serious deprogramming!!!
 
I wasn’t trying to usurp any authority. It’s just a discussion about some serious issues.

Vengeance belongs to God, I’m more interested in holding people accountable for their destructive, heinous behavior. Do I love them? Of course!
I am more interested in praying for them to repent. Saul of Tarsus had destructive heinous behavior, but his salvation was a far bigger judgement on the spiritual forces of evil than if he had been executed for his crimes. The best way for Satan's kingdom to fall is if all those who are bought by him and kept in bondage by him through fear and threats were to know the knowledge surpassing love of God and if they come to know Jesus whose blood will break every bond and set them free. If these people who are saved will then bring forth fruit worthy of repentance that includes proclaiming everything said and done in secret from the housetop. This is the Lord's strategy to defeating the Satanic kingdom, we preach that Jesus is the savior to those held in bondage and when they are free they can become part of the army of God.
 
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I am more interested in praying for them to repent. Saul of Tarsus had destructive heinous behavior, but his salvation was a far bigger judgement on the spiritual forces of evil than if he had been executed for his crimes. The best way for Satan's kingdom to fall is if all those who are bought by him and kept in bondage by him through fear and threats were to know the knowledge surpassing love of God and if they come to know Jesus whose blood will break every bond and set them free. If these people who are saved will then bring forth fruit worthy of repentance that includes proclaiming everything said and done in secret from the housetop. This is the Lord's strategy to defeating the Satanic kingdom, we preach that Jesus is the savior to those held in bondage and when they are free they can become part of the army of God.

Aah so you’re more aligned with the Left in advocating letting the murderers and criminals walk away w/o much penalty? Got it!
 
Aah so you’re more aligned with the Left in advocating letting the murderers and criminals walk away w/o much penalty? Got it!
Twisting people words and misquoting them and lying about what they say and believe is to be one with the Accuser of the brethren, that is Satan.

What I have said I have posted in writing for all to read. There is no excuse for anyone to come away with this conclusion unless they are willfully trying to twist my words or hold down the truth in unrighteousness. Their judgement is not idling.

What I believe is that Jesus Christ is Lord, Vengeance is His, and we have a promise that He will deal with all the evil people who do ungodly deeds. However, my assignment is not to be a prosecutor, I'm not here to condemn people there are plenty who will do that. My job is to preach the gospel so that people can know the way of salvation and during this grace period receive Jesus' forgiveness and redemption and become free from Satan's chains.

That doesn't mean there is no one to accuse and prosecute them. That is Satan's job, not mine. I only ask for people to be delivered from hell and eternal torment if they receive the blood of Jesus as their redemption. That doesn't mean they aren't accountable for their crimes, only that they don't go to hell.
 
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Twisting people words and misquoting them and lying about what they say and believe is to be one with the Accuser of the brethren, that is Satan.

What I have said I have posted in writing for all to read. There is no excuse for anyone to come away with this conclusion unless they are willfully trying to twist my words or hold down the truth in unrighteousness. Their judgement is not idling.

What I believe is that Jesus Christ is Lord, Vengeance is His, and we have a promise that He will deal with all the evil people who do ungodly deeds. However, my assignment is not to be a prosecutor, I'm not here to condemn people there are plenty who will do that. My job is to preach the gospel so that people can know the way of salvation and during this grace period receive Jesus' forgiveness and redemption and become free from Satan's chains.

That doesn't mean there is no one to accuse and prosecute them. That is Satan's job, not mine. I only ask for people to be delivered from hell and eternal torment if they receive the blood of Jesus as their redemption. That doesn't mean they aren't accountable for their crimes, only that they don't go to hell.


The more you write, the more confusing you become. You wrote—- (That doesn't mean there is no one to accuse and prosecute them. That is Satan's job, not mine.). So being a lawyer/ prosecutor is satan’s job?? Wow!

This is what God states:
-13 Whoever rewards evil for good, Evil will not depart from his house.
-15 He who justifies the wicked, and he who condemns the just, Both of them alike are an abomination to the Lord.
-26 Also, to punish the righteous is not good, Nor to strike princes for their uprightness."
Proverbs 17:11, 13, 15, 26 NKJV

-"Let every soul be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and the authorities that exist are appointed by God. Therefore whoever resists the authority resists the ordinance of God, and those who resist will bring judgment on
themselves. For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to evil. Do you want to be unafraid of the authority? Do what is good, and you will have praise from the same. For he is God’s minister to you for good. But if you do evil, be afraid; for he does not bear the sword in vain; for he is God’s minister, an avenger to execute
wrath on him who practices evil. Therefore you must be subject, not only because of wrath but also for conscience’ sake. For because of this you also pay taxes, for they are God’s ministers attending continually to this very thing.
Romans 13:1-6 NKJV