What's your take on Gaza? Is Israel doing everything right?

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Hi,

to me the whole issue is frustrating. Everybody says something different.


According to the "world" Israel is just terrible and they are committing crimes in Gaza all the time.

I'm not really buying that.

But according to jewish christians, normal christians and also normal jews who report on Israel

it's ALL totally made up and Israel is doing everything right. I'm not sure I buy that either.

I also don't really trust Netanyahu. He has an evil presence in my opinion. He also used to support

hamas financially in the past, which is also a highly questionable practice.


https://www.timesofisrael.com/for-years-netanyahu-propped-up-hamas-now-its-blown-up-in-our-faces/


What do you think?

I could imagine that many Israelis have also developed such a hatred for Gazans (can anyone really blame them?)

that maybe they are really committing crimes. I hope that's not the case but I can imagine it.


Anyway,

after seeing the vid of the starving Israeli I am furious again. These bastards deserve to be smoked out, if you ask me.

No mercy for these hamas animals! I hope that Israel gets every single one of them.
 
My take is that only God can sort all this out. There is no doubt something horrific on the same scale as the holocaust has happened. However, assigning blame is not my job, I am a witness, not a judge. I do not know the hearts, nor am I omniscient. Only God is and only God is equipped to be the judge.


Aerial footage filmed by ITV News shows the scale of Gaza's destruction | ITV News

That said, the Bible talks about Gaza becoming like chaff in the wind and that is what we see here, and the context is that this takes place to signal that the Day of the Lord is at hand (ie about to take place) and it is a warning to the rest of the world to repent. The correct attitude is not to try and say who sinned Israel, Hamas, this person or that person. The correct attitude is to examine yourself. Of course if you are a UN investigator looking into war crimes then your job is different from the rest of us. But anyone who does not realize the media is being used to manipulate people is simply naive.

Before Israel was able to return to the land they had to go through the Holocaust. World War 2 was a precursor to World War 3. A third of the Jews died in the holocaust and a third of humanity will die during the seven year tribulation known as the greatest tribulation in human history. Gaza is a warning to the whole world that God is not playing around. I'm not saying God did this, but He did allow it to happen and without him removing His hedge of protection it never could have happened.
 
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Israeli media: Netanyahu to urge 'full conquest' of Gaza

If Israel is going to be held accountable for the food that is given as aid not being fairly distributed then by all means get the military into Gaza to distribute the food.
 
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Israel and the U.S. could have finished things. The claimed they knew where the Iranian leader was hiding. But chose not to end things.
 
The Elam prophecy is also still open.

In my opinion the iran attack didn't accomplish much. Iran is still working on the bomb it's only a matter of time.

What bothers me a bit is that there's no christian ministry (at least that I know of) which discusses any mistakes made by

the IDF. I cannot imagine that everything on the media is 100% made up.

According to the channels which I know everything is honkey dorey in Gaza and the people are fat and lack absolutely nothing.

I find this a bit hard to believe.
 
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The people of Gaza could have prevented this years ago,
They should have never let the terrorist to live and thrive in Gaza and launch their attacks on Israel from their neighborhoods.
They could stop it now if they would turn all the terrorist over to Israel or better yet kill each and every one.
 
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Israel shouldn't have concerned itself with feeding the enemy. The civilian population was/is complicit in the crimes committed against Israel. It is good, I guess that Israel goes to so much trouble to spare the civilian population, but I think it would be better if they didn't go so far in that department. War is a horrible thing and gazans and hamas brought this upon themselves. Israel should complete the job of annihilating hamas and annex gaza to Israel. It is their rightful land anyway. The only option for civilian gazans should be to be shipped to the first place that will accept them. Their status until they leave gaza should be as war criminals.

Israel's enemies understand without a doubt that it is in their interests to hold Israeli hostages given that Israel has taken such care to keep the current hostages alive. But for the hostages this would have been over a long time ago. Now all of her enemies know that the best path to self preservation in a war with Israel is to have Israeli hostages.

God bless Israel.
 
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Tall_Timbers said:
Israel shouldn't have concerned itself with feeding the enemy. The civilian population was/is complicit in the crimes committed against Israel. It is good, I guess that Israel goes to so much trouble to spare the civilian population, but I think it would be better if they didn't go so far in that department. War is a horrible thing and gazans and hamas brought this upon themselves. Israel should complete the job of annihilating hamas and annex gaza to Israel. It is their rightful land anyway. The only option for civilian gazans should be to be shipped to the first place that will accept them. Their status until they leave gaza should be as war criminals.

Israel's enemies understand without a doubt that it is in their interests to hold Israeli hostages given that Israel has taken such care to keep the current hostages alive. But for the hostages this would have been over a long time ago. Now all of her enemies know that the best path to self preservation in a war with Israel is to have Israeli hostages.

God bless Israel.
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If you look real hard you may see that your country is occupied as well.
 
HeIsHere said:
If you look real hard you may see that your country is occupied as well.
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People are trained not to look that hard. If they did, and American politicians were stopped from committing treason, who would be left to sustain the rogue state as it committed its genocide?
 
CommodoreTeach said:
People are trained not to look that hard. If they did, and American politicians were stopped from committing treason, who would be left to sustain the rogue state as it committed its genocide?
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I am just going to say it, but uninformed opinions are the worst.
 
HeIsHere said:
I am just going to say it, but uninformed opinions are the worst.
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I find it amusing when these uninformed opinions come across as unsure at first, but then decisively fall in the favour of supporting mass genocide to "smoke out a handful of elusive terrorists" on the basis of false claims that no intelligent man or woman these days believes, almost as if this was secretly the position to begin with.
 
CommodoreTeach said:
I find it amusing when these uninformed opinions come across as unsure at first, but then decisively fall in the favour of supporting mass genocide to "smoke out a handful of elusive terrorists" on the basis of false claims that no intelligent man or woman these days believes, almost as if this was secretly the position to begin with.
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It must be something to live in this cognitive dissonance, having your special status people committing atrocities and one has to actually deny, defend and assert lies to cover it up.

I read yesterday that disaster relief can be denied to the states/cities if they boycott that nation in the middle east.

America First. :rolleyes:
 
HeIsHere said:
It must be something to live in this cognitive dissonance, having your special status people committing atrocities and one has to actually deny, defend and assert lies to cover it up.
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Yes. Definitely religious. With the object of worship the rogue state, and the belief that unquestioning and even dishonest support for this entity is what God wants, rather than worshiping Him in Spirit and in Truth.

HeIsHere said:
I read yesterday that disaster relief can be denied to the states/cities if they boycott that nation in the middle east.

America First. :rolleyes:
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Yes. I'm hoping Trump is making this blatantly obvious deliberately (I think he is). Some have claimed this is treason, and I believe it may well be a good justification for overt military intervention. I guess we will still see.

If this is indeed the plan, I'm still dubious of where it may lead, though.
 
CommodoreTeach said:
I find it amusing when these uninformed opinions come across as unsure at first, but then decisively fall in the favour of supporting mass genocide to "smoke out a handful of elusive terrorists" on the basis of false claims that no intelligent man or woman these days believes, almost as if this was secretly the position to begin with.
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Here we go. You really think Israel is evil dont you? I dont know where you live but around here people kill and kidnap your family they are hunted down and killed. What mosque do you attend?
 
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Here we go. You really think Israel is evil dont you? I dont know where you live but around here people kill and kidnap your family they are hunted down and killed. What mosque do you Ttend?
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Interesting that is what happened in 1948 to the indigenous peoples, they were raped, murdered, brutalized, had their homes stolen and burned to the ground and then they were forced out, some of whom were Christians.
 
HeIsHere said:
Interesting that is what happened in 1948 to the indigenous peoples, they were raped, murdered, brutalized, had their homes stolen and burned to the ground and then they were forced out, some of whom were Christians.
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What % are the Jews to have?
 
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I'd argued since 10/8/23 and my gene-sister (who's a pastor) shared a call for the destruction of Israel that the 'Palestinian problem' calls for a Shermanesque solution.

The answer is simple, but requires more will than the world is willing to do.

1) Relocate all the 'Palestinians.' Jordan, the Sinai, Murdo station, doesn't matter where. See WW II for the precedent and how that works.

2) Level, Occupy, Rebuild. Everything. The culture (well give them one) the education, the social structure. That takes 40-60 years AT LEAST to teach the new generations and let the old die out. Again, see post WW II.

Gaza Delende Est.
 
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