Wheat and Tares, end of the age, Second Coming or end of the millennium?

[Churchgoer]

this is a little embarssing but i dont watch tv or listen radio so a text a got from my son is confuseing to me he say i remind him of deadpool and someone named brian renolds what is he mean sorry so long type

Sorry I don't know either.

 

[Lifted_by_the_word]

Wheat and tares comes at the hearing of the word of the Two Witnesses

 

[Omegatime]

But the rapture is after a resurrection, dead in Christ shall rise first. So if you believe in the pre-trib rapture you also believe in a pre-tribulation resurrection of those dead in Christ.

No, I dont at this pre-tribulation event.

In post # 14 I stated: In 1 Cor. 5 we read about a man living with his mother as a married couple and Paul requested his life but saved in the Day of the Lord.

Now this man according to Paul would be resurrected on the Day of the lord.

But according to what you said this man would be resurrected pre-trib and you placed the Day of the Lord pre-trib.

So, do you believe the Day of the Lord is pre-trib??

Only resurrection/rapture I see is at Rev, 14:14

 

[Komentaja]

No, I dont at this pre-tribulation event.

In post # 14 I stated: In 1 Cor. 5 we read about a man living with his mother as a married couple and Paul requested his life but saved in the Day of the Lord.

Now this man according to Paul would be resurrected on the Day of the lord.

But according to what you said this man would be resurrected pre-trib and you placed the Day of the Lord pre-trib.

So, do you believe the Day of the Lord is pre-trib??

Only resurrection/rapture I see is at Rev, 14:14

1 Thessalonians 4:15-16 says first the dead are raised, then the rapture, was my point.

 

[Omegatime]

1 Thessalonians 4:15-16 says first the dead are raised, then the rapture, was my point.

and I say it happens at Rev 14-lol

 

[Omegatime]

1 Thessalonians 4:15-16 says first the dead are raised, then the rapture, was my point.

Things are not always as we want them to be. When you see a resurrection, you also expect a rapture/

But there was a resurrection and NO rapture the Passover weekend the Lord was crucified.

 

[Komentaja]

and I say it happens at Rev 14-lol

Alright, but thats not pre-trib rapture? Thats already deep in the tribulation.

 

[Omegatime]

Alright, but thats not pre-trib rapture? Thats already deep in the tribulation.

Yes, but I still say there is a rapture of the church pre-trib, with a remaining resurrection/rapture at Rev 14:14

What i get from the scriptures. Just sharing my opinion

 

[Komentaja]

Yes, but I still say there is a rapture of the church pre-trib, with a remaining resurrection/rapture at Rev 14:14

What i get from the scriptures. Just sharing my opinion

You cant have a rapture without a resurrection.....

" And the dead in Christ will rise first. 17 Then we who are alive, who are left, will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air, and so we will always be with the Lord"

Thats not a matter of opinion thats what the verse says.

 

[Aaron56]

this is a little embarssing but i dont watch tv or listen radio so a text a got from my son is confuseing to me he say i remind him of deadpool and someone named brian renolds what is he mean sorry so long type

He's talking about Ryan Reynolds. He played the character Dead Pool in a live-action comic adaptation. Both the character and Ryan Reynolds are typically received as funny and quick-witted. My guess is your son was making that comparison.

The other option is that Dead Pool looks like this:



So, I'm hoping I'm right about the first part.

 

[OMC]

He's talking about Ryan Reynolds. He played the character Dead Pool in a live-action comic adaptation. Both the character and Ryan Reynolds are typically received as funny and quick-witted. My guess is your son was making that comparison.

The other option is that Dead Pool looks like this:

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So, I'm hoping I'm right about the first part.

oh lordy haha

 

[OMC]

He's talking about Ryan Reynolds. He played the character Dead Pool in a live-action comic adaptation. Both the character and Ryan Reynolds are typically received as funny and quick-witted. My guess is your son was making that comparison.

The other option is that Dead Pool looks like this:

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So, I'm hoping I'm right about the first part.

He and his friends always say, "You're so Deadpool," as they laugh, usually when I'm frustrated, which just makes me even more annoyed. And yeah lol, I look nothing like that

 

[Psalm1]

The wheat and tares will be separated when the saints are caught up to Jesus which happens before the millennial reign.

When Jesus comes back to take over the earth all the saints are with Him.

In the millennial reign Jesus rules from Jerusalem over the heathen which they will be in the flesh and the saints in glorified bodies.

So they are separate during the millennial reign.

So the separation will not happen before the millennial reign for it is already identified by the saints in glorified bodies and the heathen in the flesh.

God spared one sixth of the heathen so Jesus can rule over them.

The tares are burned.
The LOF is after the GWTJ and after the mil.
If you keep reading, Jesus says, it is at the end of the world

 

[Psalm1]

You cant have a rapture without a resurrection.....

" And the dead in Christ will rise first. 17 Then we who are alive, who are left, will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air, and so we will always be with the Lord"

Thats not a matter of opinion thats what the verse says.

Ok.
But rev 14:14 is a jewish gathering.
It is the jewish main harvest.
We see the firstfruit Jews gathered right before rev 14;14.
Jewish firstfruits....nothing to do with the church.
Then, jewish main harvest.

One clue, is that 144,000 JEWS , are NOT THE FIRSTFRUITS of the church.
Jesus is the firstfruits of the church.

The harvest of rev 14:14 is not, and can not be the church.

 

[reneweddaybyday]

When do you believe this separation of wheat and tares takes place?

Revelation 20:11-15.

I think a case can be made for it being the second coming cause it uses the phrase end of the age which Matthew 24 connects to the second coming.

How about Matthew 25:31-46?

I think a case can also be made that it fits nicely with the end of the millennium because it says the tares are burned out of his KINGDOM, and the wheat only remain which fits the fire coming down from heaven at the end of the millenium.

Opinions?

At the great white throne judgment, God will judge the folks (unbelievers) who were not included in the first resurrection (Revelation 20:5), as well as those who were born during the millennial reign of the Lord Jesus Christ (unbelievers as well as believers).

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[Komentaja]

Ok.
But rev 14:14 is a jewish gathering.
It is the jewish main harvest.
We see the firstfruit Jews gathered right before rev 14;14.
Jewish firstfruits....nothing to do with the church.
Then, jewish main harvest.

One clue, is that 144,000 JEWS , are NOT THE FIRSTFRUITS of the church.
Jesus is the firstfruits of the church.

The harvest of rev 14:14 is not, and can not be the church.

I agree its not the Church.

 

[tttallison]

When do you believe this separation of wheat and tares takes place?

I think a case can be made for it being the second coming cause it uses the phrase end of the age which Matthew 24 connects to the second coming.
I think a case can also be made that it fits nicely with the end of the millennium because it says the tares are burned out of his KINGDOM, and the wheat only remain which fits the fire coming down from heaven at the end of the millennium.


Opinions?

What scripture reference do you have that says fire comes down at the end of the millennium. Don't you mean after the millennium?