When Do Christians Receive The Holy Spirit ?

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When true Christians leave their faith in another God. By closing your eyes and praying to Heavenly Father and Jesus Christ. Taking the side of truth. By repenting and turning away from sin, the Holy Spirit is received. The Holy Spirit resides only in the Christian believer.
In the Holy Bible, you receive the Holy Spirit the moment you accept Jesus Christ as your Savior.
Accept Jesus wholeheartedly.

John 14:26
King James Version
26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.

John 16:7-8
King James Version
7 Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you.

8 And when he is come, he will reprove the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment:

Ephesians 1:13-14
King James Version
13 In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,

14 Which is the earnest of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, unto the praise of his glory. 🕊️
 
When true Christians leave their faith in another God. By closing your eyes and praying to Heavenly Father and Jesus Christ. Taking the side of truth. By repenting and turning away from sin, the Holy Spirit is received. The Holy Spirit resides only in the Christian believer.
In the Holy Bible, you receive the Holy Spirit the moment you accept Jesus Christ as your Savior.
Accept Jesus wholeheartedly.

John 14:26
King James Version
26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.

John 16:7-8
King James Version
7 Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you.

8 And when he is come, he will reprove the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment:

Ephesians 1:13-14
King James Version
13 In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,

14 Which is the earnest of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, unto the praise of his glory. 🕊️

A soul’s relationship with God begins when the person becomes a truthseeker (cf. Matt. 7:7, Heb. 11:6), because God’s Spirit is Truth (1John 5:6), although the young soul may not realize it (Rom. 1:17). As a truthseeker at any time in history contemplates creation, Paul indicates that they will be able to discern God’s being and loving will in nature (Rom. 1:20, 2:14-15, Gal 5:14) by means of what theologians call general revelation. In this regard it is good to plumb the depths of Gen. 1:1-3 describing the Spirit of God’s presence as God spoke creation into existence and connect it with John 1:1-3 saying the Word was in the beginning and through Him all things were made (cf. Acts 17:27-28).

When truthseekers realize that God has a moral requirement, if they worship Him they become like Abraham, and the relationship with God becomes personal (Rom. 4:1-25). Presumably God provides such believers the opportunity to learn the proto-gospel, so they may repent of sin and accept the pre-incarnate foreshadowing of the sacrifice of Christ (cf. Gen. 3:21), whether in the form of Abraham’s ram (Gen. 22:13) or Moses’ lamb (Exo. 12:21). At the moment of worship and saving faith like Abraham, the Spirit of Christ/God’s Holy Spirit enters the believer’s spiritual heart— again even though they may not realize it–because Paul taught that whoever does not have the Spirit of Christ does not belong to Christ (Rom. 8:9).

With greater awareness because of learning the NT Gospel, when a truthseeker confesses Jesus as Messiah and Lord (Acts 20:21, Rom. 10:9), the HS indwells the convert’s heart (Rom. 5:5) and unites him/her with God as heavenly Father (Rom. 8:9)–which moment is called spiritual rebirth (John 3:3-8), baptism by the Spirit (Matt. 3:11/Mark 1:8/Luke 3:16, John 1:33, Acts 1:5, 1Cor. 12:13) and receiving the Spirit of adoption/sonship (Rom. 8:14-16).

The outward evidence that someone was baptized by the HS (Rom. 5:5) and is Spirit-filled (Eph. 5:18) or walking with God is the fullness of Christ (Eph. 3:19, 4:13) or fruit of the Spirit (Gal. 5:22-23), which is signified by “love” (Gal. 5:6, Matt. 22:37-40). Jesus said “All men will know that you are my disciples if you love one another” (John 13:35, 1John 4:7-21), because divine love sums up the moral character of God (1John 4:7-8).

Because a convert’s commitment to Christ is in accordance with God’s perfect will (Matt. 4:17, 1Tim. 2:3-4), the moment of Spirit baptism fulfills the command to be filled with the Spirit (in Eph. 5:18), which means to cooperate fully with the love of God (Eph. 3:16-19) or of the HS (Rom. 5:5, 15:30).

The moment or stage of conversion may be described grammatically as occurring in the past: we were saved when we repented/received the baptism of the HS.

From the moment of repentance onward begins the second stage of growth, discipleship (Acts 14:22) or sanctification (2Thes. 2:13), which is present progressive: it is the process of being saved now. This stage has two phases: instability and maturity.

A new convert does not achieve immediate perfection by remaining filled with the HS (Phil. 3:12). Instead, the combination of temptations, ignorance of GW and the old selfish nature results in immature saints committing post-conversion sins, at which time the are carnal or acting like unbelievers (1Cor. 3:1).

As soon as new Christians realize they sinned, they should confess it (1John 1:9a) rather than compound it by trying to hide it or cover it up like Adam and Eve did (Gen. 3:7-8). Whenever a believer acknowledges to God his/her known sins of immoral attitudes and actions, God forgives all sins (1John 1:9b). This means he/she is pleasing rather than grieving God or once again is Spirit-filled (walking in the Spirit) and has a right relationship with Christ Jesus (Eph. 4:30, 5:10 & 18).

This spiritual flip-flopping is the phase of instability, and although it is bad, failure to confess promptly is much worse, because it results in chain-sinning or back-sliding, which may be called prodigal if it continues very long (cf. Luke 15:11-32).
 
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Luke 11:13.. have you received the holy Spirit since you believed. The 12/120+ were all saved when Christ told them to wait for the promise. Did they not have the holy spirit already? He said you shall receive power after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you. Peter.. after He was filled with the Holy Ghost looked drunk... told them repent and be baptized, every one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins. And you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.

You can tell those who have been filled vs those that are not. We as we should focus on John 3:16-17 Yet the same God said Luke 11:13. Yeah the same God that said John 3:16017 said luke 11:13 and I don't care what any one said.. I asked I received.
 
When true Christians leave their faith in another God. By closing your eyes and praying to Heavenly Father and Jesus Christ. Taking the side of truth. By repenting and turning away from sin, the Holy Spirit is received. The Holy Spirit resides only in the Christian believer.
In the Holy Bible, you receive the Holy Spirit the moment you accept Jesus Christ as your Savior.
Accept Jesus wholeheartedly.

John 14:26
King James Version
26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.

John 16:7-8
King James Version
7 Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you.

8 And when he is come, he will reprove the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment:

Ephesians 1:13-14
King James Version
13 In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,

14 Which is the earnest of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, unto the praise of his glory. 🕊️
Please take the time to check out what scripture actually says about receivng the Holy Ghost.

The Jewish people in the following account were already believers of Jesus before being filled with the Holy Ghost:
"And when the day of Pentecost was fully come, they were all with one accord in one place.
And suddenly there came a sound from heaven as of a rushing mighty wind, and it filled all the house where they were sitting.
And there appeared unto them cloven tongues like as of fire, and it sat upon each of them.
And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance... Acts 2:1-4


MESSAGE FIRST PREACHED TO JEWS: (Acts 2:4, 33, 36-38)
"Therefore (Jesus) being by the right hand of God exalted, and having received of the Father the promise of the Holy Ghost, he hath shed forth this, which ye now see and hear..."

"Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made that same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ.
Now when they heard this, they were pricked in their heart, and said unto Peter and to the rest of the apostles, Men and brethren, what shall we do?"

What Peter said next applies to all of humanity as confirmed in scripture:
"Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sin and you shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost..." Receiving the Holy Ghost is promised to all who are willing to hear and obey.


MESSAGE PREACHED TO SAMARITANS: (Acts 8:12, 14-17)
Note that the Samaritans DID NOT receive the Holy Ghost until days after believing in Jesus, and submitting to water baptism in the name of Jesus.

Have you ever considered how the Samaritans knew they had not yet received the Holy Ghost?

"...when they believed Philip preaching the things concerning the kingdom of God, and the name of Jesus Christ, they were baptized, both men and women."
Now when the apostles which were at Jerusalem heard that Samaria had received the word of God, they sent unto them Peter and John: Who, when they were come down, prayed for them, that they might receive the Holy Ghost:
(For as yet he was fallen upon none of them: only they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.)

Then laid they their hands on them, and they received the Holy Ghost."



MESSAGE PREACHED TO GENTILES: (Acts 10:43-48)
"To him (Jesus) give all the prophets witness, that through his name whosoever believeth in him shall receive remission of sins.

While Peter yet spake these words, the Holy Ghost fell on all them which heard the word.
And they of the circumcision which believed were astonished, as many as came with Peter, because that on the Gentiles also was poured out the gift of the Holy Ghost.
For they heard them speak with tongues, and magnify God. Then answered Peter,
Can any man forbid water, that these should not be baptized, which have received the Holy Ghost as well as we?
And he commanded them to be baptized in the name of the Lord."


12 EPHESIANS INDIVIDUALS: (Acts 19:1-7)
Paul's question, Have ye received the Holy Ghost SINCE ye believed?, reveals people don't automatically receive the Holy Ghost when they believe. The account goes on to confirm this.

The individuals believe Paul's message about Jesus, and submit to water baptism in the name of Jesus. AFTERWARD, Paul lays hands on them and at that point they receive the Holy Ghost.

"...And they said unto him, We have not so much as heard whether there be any Holy Ghost.
And he said unto them, Unto what then were ye baptized? And they said, Unto John's baptism.
Then said Paul, John verily baptized with the baptism of repentance, saying unto the people, that they should believe on him which should come after him, that is, on Christ Jesus. When they heard this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus." Acts 19:1-5 We know this is referring to being rebaptized in water because the next verse says: "And when Paul had laid his hands upon them, the Holy Ghost came on them; and they spake with tongues, and prophesied." Acts 19:6


Lastly, as the scriptures reveal, the people knew without a doubt when they received the Holy Ghost, they spoke in tongues.
 
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May He keep you strong in the faith! Keep reading the New Testament so you can be like the noble Bereans, rightly dividing the word of God (knowing what is correct or heresy). 🩷
 
When true Christians leave their faith in another God. By closing your eyes and praying to Heavenly Father and Jesus Christ. Taking the side of truth. By repenting and turning away from sin, the Holy Spirit is received. The Holy Spirit resides only in the Christian believer.
In the Holy Bible, you receive the Holy Spirit the moment you accept Jesus Christ as your Savior.
Accept Jesus wholeheartedly.

John 14:26
King James Version
26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.

John 16:7-8
King James Version
7 Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you.

8 And when he is come, he will reprove the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment:

Ephesians 1:13-14
King James Version
13 In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,

14 Which is the earnest of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, unto the praise of his glory. 🕊️
May He keep you strong in the faith! Keep reading the New Testament so you can be like the noble Bereans, rightly dividing the word of God (knowing what is correct or heresy). 🩷
 
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May He keep you strong in the faith! Keep reading the New Testament so you can be like the noble Bereans, rightly dividing the word of God (knowing what is correct or heresy). 🩷

Yes, the evidence of receiving the HS is reflecting God's love to everyone including enemies
(Rom. 5:5-8, 1Tim. 2:3-4. 1John 4:7-8, Matt. 5:44&48).
 
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Yes, the evidence of receiving the HS is reflecting God's love to everyone including enemies
(Rom. 5:5-8, 1Tim. 2:3-4. 1John 4:7-8, Matt. 5:44&48).
Yes, people in the world don’t have this kind of love.
 
Depends. The Holy Spirit as Jesus says is like the wind- Not saying its random but what I am saying is, there isnt necessarily a 100% of the time formula.

For me it was after water baptism when I had the elders pray over me
 
Depends. The Holy Spirit as Jesus says is like the wind- Not saying its random but what I am saying is, there isnt necessarily a 100% of the time formula.

For me it was after water baptism when I had the elders pray over me

Well, per the NT Spirit baptism is dependent on a believer's faith, not on anyone else's prayers,
so that must have been a coincidence.
 
Well, per the NT Spirit baptism is dependent on a believer's faith, not on anyone else's prayers,
so that must have been a coincidence.
As I stated I am not saying its a formula, not saying you need a man to receive. Thats just what happened to me. Cornelius got the Holy Spirit while listening. Some got it at water baptism. It depends
 
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Well we are in the world, but I know you meant "of the world".
Yes, we may live in the world, but we are not of the world, just as He was not of this world. The world is contrary to God. We are the light, the salt, and a beacon for others to see through our works.
 
Well, per the NT Spirit baptism is dependent on a believer's faith, not on anyone else's prayers,
so that must have been a coincidence.
Your definition of “Spirit baptism” is different than water baptism. We don’t say that phrase. You receive the Spirit when you believe in Him. You are still commanded to be water baptized.
 
As I stated I am not saying its a formula, not saying you need a man to receive. Thats just what happened to me. Cornelius got the Holy Spirit while listening. Some got it at water baptism. It depends

I understand and merely wanted to clarify the normative timing per GW.
I always believed in God and Jesus and professed my faith publicly via WB when I was nine,
but when I learned the HS teaches GW about JC & DL (John 14-16 & Rom. 5:5),
I realized that I must have received the HS when I became a TSer (Matt. 7:7 & Heb. 11:6).
The evidence was asking my parents for a Modern English Bible for Christmas,
and amending belief in OSAS when I read/learned GW about MFW.
 
Yes, we may live in the world, but we are not of the world, just as He was not of this world. The world is contrary to God. We are the light, the salt, and a beacon for others to see through our works.

I understand what you mean, but just so readers will understand, let us clarify that the world is created/sustained by God,
but He allows humans created in His image (meaning with MFW) to sin/be contrary/ignore GW, which Paul described as being worldly rather than heavenly minded (cf. John 3:16, 8:12 and 18:36).
 
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I understand what you mean, but just so readers will understand, let us clarify that the world is created/sustained by God,
but He allows humans created in His image (meaning with MFW) to sin/be contrary/ignore GW, which Paul described as being worldly rather than heavenly minded (cf. John 3:16, 8:12 and 18:36).
Yes! Just like Jesus was not of the world, even though God was born in the flesh through a woman, the world didn’t know Him and hated Him. Even so, we are not of the world, though we are God’s heirs and were sent to be lights on this world, the world also doesn’t understand us and hates us. We are full of God’s love, and Truth.
 
When true Christians leave their faith in another God. By closing your eyes and praying to Heavenly Father and Jesus Christ. Taking the side of truth. By repenting and turning away from sin, the Holy Spirit is received. The Holy Spirit resides only in the Christian believer.
In the Holy Bible, you receive the Holy Spirit the moment you accept Jesus Christ as your Savior.
Accept Jesus wholeheartedly.

John 14:26
King James Version
26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.

John 16:7-8
King James Version
7 Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you.

8 And when he is come, he will reprove the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment:

Ephesians 1:13-14
King James Version
13 In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,

14 Which is the earnest of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, unto the praise of his glory. 🕊️

When true Christians leave their faith in another God. By closing your eyes and praying to Heavenly Father and Jesus Christ. Taking the side of truth. By repenting and turning away from sin, the Holy Spirit is received. The Holy Spirit resides only in the Christian believer.
In the Holy Bible, you receive the Holy Spirit the moment you accept Jesus Christ as your Savior.
Accept Jesus wholeheartedly.

John 14:26
King James Version
26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.

John 16:7-8
King James Version
7 Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you.

8 And when he is come, he will reprove the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment:

Ephesians 1:13-14
King James Version
13 In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,

14 Which is the earnest of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, unto the praise of his glory. 🕊️

I feel a responsibility to let you know your understanding of faith will never result in receiving the Holy Spirit.

Are you willing to learn the truth?
 
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Yes! Just like Jesus was not of the world, even though God was born in the flesh through a woman, the world didn’t know Him and hated Him. Even so, we are not of the world, though we are God’s heirs and were sent to be lights on this world, the world also doesn’t understand us and hates us. We are full of God’s love, and Truth.

Yes, we are not of the world, even though when we sin we are not full of the HS but instead behaving like those whose lives are carnal (1Cor. 3:1-3, Rom. 8:6-7) until we confess our sin, are forgiven (1John 1:8-9) and become refilled or cooperate fully with GW.
 
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Yes, we are not of the world, even though when we sin we are not full of the HS but instead behaving like those whose lives are carnal (1Cor. 3:1-3, Rom. 8:6-7) until we confess our sin, are forgiven (1John 1:8-9) and become refilled or cooperate fully with GW.
Yes, this is why OSAS is false, because sin separates us from God.
Repent, repent, repent…..