Where is Christ's Presence?
2 Corinthians 13:[SUP]5 [/SUP]Examine yourselves, whether ye be in the faith; prove your own selves. Know ye not your own selves, how that Jesus Christ is in you, except ye be reprobates?
Where isn't Christ's Presence? I believe these verses below can also be applied to reproving the false belief that Christ's Presence are in the sacraments or as some just refer to the bread & the wine.
Matthew 24:[SUP]23 [/SUP]Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not. [SUP]24 [/SUP]For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.[SUP] 25 [/SUP]Behold, I have told you before.[SUP]26 [/SUP]Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not.
1 John 4:1Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.[SUP] 2 [/SUP]Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God:[SUP] 3 [/SUP]And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.
[SUP]4 [/SUP]Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world.
So if you confirm with Him at that throne of grace, there is no receiving Christ again by way of the sacraments. They really need to drop that Catholic word, sacrament, if a Protestant wish to have his faith shine apart.
2 Corinthians 11:[SUP]3 [/SUP]But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ.[SUP] 4 [/SUP]For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus, whom we have not preached, or if ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received, or another gospel, which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with him.
All He and Paul ever taught was to do communion in remembrance of Him, and that truth is He is in us, is a part of what He has done for us.
I do not believe that the Reformation got rid of everything "Catholic" when Protestants had left the RCC.
My former Presbyterian church used to have begun the communion service in this way, "We come into His Presence today...". They may still be doing that, I do not know, but discern with Him what was just said.
It is not taught to say that in the Bible when having communion and so this was an extra man made saying added to the practice in holding communion in a Protestant church.
Are we really coming into His Presence at communion? Is He not in us and is with us always since our salvation? Then there is no coming into His Presence in communion, now is there? Should our words reflect our faith? Because certainly, after communion, we are not going away from His Presence.
Some people say that is being legalistic, but I say should we say what we really mean or not in regards to our faith in Jesus Christ? Is it not a lie to say we are coming into His Presence each communion as if His Presence is not in us?
Matthew 12:[SUP]35 [/SUP]A good man out of the good treasure of the heart bringeth forth good things: and an evil man out of the evil treasure bringeth forth evil things.[SUP]36 [/SUP]But I say unto you, That every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgment.[SUP]37 [/SUP]For by thy words thou shalt be justified, and by thy words thou shalt be condemned.
Matthew 15:[SUP]18 [/SUP]But those things which proceed out of the mouth come forth from the heart; and they defile the man.[SUP]19 [/SUP]For out of the heart proceed evil thoughts, murders, adulteries, fornications, thefts, false witness, blasphemies: [SUP]20 [/SUP]These are the things which defile a man:
Please pray at that throne of grace to confirm His words to you in how you should be receiving communion; and when you should not be receiving communion. You can even pray that your church will heed His words & repent.
Psalm 19:[SUP]12 [/SUP]Who can understand his errors? cleanse thou me from secret faults.[SUP] 13 [/SUP]Keep back thy servant also from presumptuous sins; let them not have dominion over me: then shall I be upright, and I shall be innocent from the great transgression.[SUP]14 [/SUP]Let the words of my mouth, and the meditation of my heart, be acceptable in thy sight, O Lord, my strength, and my redeemer.
2 Corinthians 13:[SUP]5 [/SUP]Examine yourselves, whether ye be in the faith; prove your own selves. Know ye not your own selves, how that Jesus Christ is in you, except ye be reprobates?
Where isn't Christ's Presence? I believe these verses below can also be applied to reproving the false belief that Christ's Presence are in the sacraments or as some just refer to the bread & the wine.
Matthew 24:[SUP]23 [/SUP]Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not. [SUP]24 [/SUP]For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.[SUP] 25 [/SUP]Behold, I have told you before.[SUP]26 [/SUP]Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not.
1 John 4:1Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.[SUP] 2 [/SUP]Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God:[SUP] 3 [/SUP]And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.
[SUP]4 [/SUP]Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world.
So if you confirm with Him at that throne of grace, there is no receiving Christ again by way of the sacraments. They really need to drop that Catholic word, sacrament, if a Protestant wish to have his faith shine apart.
2 Corinthians 11:[SUP]3 [/SUP]But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ.[SUP] 4 [/SUP]For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus, whom we have not preached, or if ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received, or another gospel, which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with him.
All He and Paul ever taught was to do communion in remembrance of Him, and that truth is He is in us, is a part of what He has done for us.
I do not believe that the Reformation got rid of everything "Catholic" when Protestants had left the RCC.
My former Presbyterian church used to have begun the communion service in this way, "We come into His Presence today...". They may still be doing that, I do not know, but discern with Him what was just said.
It is not taught to say that in the Bible when having communion and so this was an extra man made saying added to the practice in holding communion in a Protestant church.
Are we really coming into His Presence at communion? Is He not in us and is with us always since our salvation? Then there is no coming into His Presence in communion, now is there? Should our words reflect our faith? Because certainly, after communion, we are not going away from His Presence.
Some people say that is being legalistic, but I say should we say what we really mean or not in regards to our faith in Jesus Christ? Is it not a lie to say we are coming into His Presence each communion as if His Presence is not in us?
Matthew 12:[SUP]35 [/SUP]A good man out of the good treasure of the heart bringeth forth good things: and an evil man out of the evil treasure bringeth forth evil things.[SUP]36 [/SUP]But I say unto you, That every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgment.[SUP]37 [/SUP]For by thy words thou shalt be justified, and by thy words thou shalt be condemned.
Matthew 15:[SUP]18 [/SUP]But those things which proceed out of the mouth come forth from the heart; and they defile the man.[SUP]19 [/SUP]For out of the heart proceed evil thoughts, murders, adulteries, fornications, thefts, false witness, blasphemies: [SUP]20 [/SUP]These are the things which defile a man:
Please pray at that throne of grace to confirm His words to you in how you should be receiving communion; and when you should not be receiving communion. You can even pray that your church will heed His words & repent.
Psalm 19:[SUP]12 [/SUP]Who can understand his errors? cleanse thou me from secret faults.[SUP] 13 [/SUP]Keep back thy servant also from presumptuous sins; let them not have dominion over me: then shall I be upright, and I shall be innocent from the great transgression.[SUP]14 [/SUP]Let the words of my mouth, and the meditation of my heart, be acceptable in thy sight, O Lord, my strength, and my redeemer.