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That was the plan, man... but, man ate from the forbidden tree of the knowledge of good and evil instead of the Tree of Life. Still, God knew this was going to happen, since Jesus was purposed from before the foundation of the world to give His life as a ransom for many, any and all who would by grace through faith in His shed righteous blood believe on Him, be reconciled to God, and thereby attain to life ever after.
Jonah 2:2
"I cried out to the LORD because of my affliction, and He answered me. Out of the belly of Sheol I cried; You heard my voice."
Jonah is explicit that he cried to the LORD from within Sheol.
perhaps your reading of Ecclesiastes 9 is incorrect if it contradicts much other scripture.
You are telling me that the worldview Jesus presented in Luke 16 is a Satanic lie.
Can you point to any other instance of Jesus teaching Satanic lies?
I have heard theories on this. Does Scripture actually say?
Those of faith would be fashioned in the likeness of His Son.
We certainly do not start out that way...
Some things are easy to understand by comparing to other things. For example, God does care for animals as well as humans. So being cared for wouldn't fall under the umbrella of in the image of God. Contrary wise, we are able to communicate with God and are creative and have the ability to reason, which animals do not possess. So these probably do fall under in the image of God.
Other things which may or may not fall under in the image of God are less easily discernable and I certainly don't know all there is to know about it.
I cannot say I agree completely with your reasoning on this. Just look at Balaam's, um, Equidae.
People often say things like animals cannot reason and yet some are very intelligent even if they
have not fashioned telescopes to ponder far galaxies nor have they ventured into the fields of
medicine and science as we know them. Man thinks himself smart, but God calls him a fool.
1 Corinthians 1:27-29
The difference between man's intelligence and that of the animals is that man can think both instinctually and creatively. Whatever the capacity of intelligence is within animals, it is instinctual. And they lack the capacity to look at nature and see evidence of God.
Does this have anything to do with your question at the top of this page?
Will you be returning to expound upon it? Please do .
I asked the question to see if there was a relationship between being made in the image of God and the eternality or lack thereof of humanity. And depending on the answer, would it make a difference to people's consideration of the question on the top of the page.Does this have anything to do with your question at the top of this page?
Will you be returning to expound upon it? Please do .
Do you believe the soul of man is immortal aside from being joined via faith to Christ's?
For it is through faith that we put on His immortality and His incorruptibility...
What's the difference between eternal and everlasting vs immortal?
I ask already knowing how you believe. I'm just trying to lay some foundation for what I believe.
Eternal means without beginning or end. Everlasting can have a beginning, though can be without end,
even though such words are used in Scripture simply to denote: until God's purpose is or has been fulfilled.
It is for an age. Immortal in relation to God has to do with His eternality. Man can make no such claim for himself.
"Forever"
Not so.
Isaiah 32:14 The fortress will be abandoned,
the noisy city deserted;
citadel and watchtower will become a wasteland forever,
the delight of donkeys, a pasture for flocks,
15 till the Spirit is poured on us from on high,
and the desert becomes a fertile field,
and the fertile field seems like a forest.
Just one of many examples.
1.According to the English language, “eternal” means “without beginning or end, always existing, lasting forever”;
whereas “everlasting” means “lasting forever, lasting for a very long time, for an indefinitely long time.”
2.Theologically, “eternal” means “not within any time limit, outside of time and existing without a beginning or end, like spirit”; whereas “everlasting” means “the life which did not always exist but was granted by God and it was forever, running within time, or something similar, which has a beginning but no end.”
I already told you to distinguish between "immortal" and "imperishable". Mortality and immortality apply strictly to the body, not to the soul and spirit. The soul and spirit are IMMATERIAL and not subject to corruption and decay, like the human body.
Thayer's Greek Lexicon
STRONGS NT 862: ἄφθαρτος
ἄφθαρτος, ἄφθαρτον (φθείρω), uncorrupted, not liable to corruption or decay, imperishable: of things, 1 Corinthians 9:25; 1 Peter 1:4, 23; 1 Peter 3:4;
I believe eternal and everlasting are used differently than you. So I believe those who aren't saved will suffer eternal torment. Scripturally this isn't difficult to defend if one believes the terms eternal and everlasting mean as you first stated.Eternal means without beginning or end. Everlasting can have a beginning, though can be without end,
even though such words are used in Scripture simply to denote: until God's purpose is or has been fulfilled.
It is for an age. Immortal in relation to God has to do with His eternality. Man can make no such claim for himself.
"Forever"
Another reason I believe this way is because God Himself is eternal. And eternal beings give eternal things. So just as the reward for believing is eternal, so is the outcome of not believing.
I realize this is not your understanding and I respect that.
You have told me a lot of nonsense over the years and been found to be in error numerous times. Why should I listen to you?
Guess what you do when corrected? Absolutely nothing. You go silent. No acknowledgement, no gratitude.
You are a very poor example to me in many ways.
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● Eccl 12:7 . . And the dust returns to the ground it came from, and the
spirit returns to God who gave it.
●Luke 23:46 . . Jesus called out with a loud voice: Father, into your hands I
commit my spirit.
My questions are: What does God do with the spirits He collects from folks
when they pass on; and is each spirit unique?
* Scientists have yet to figure out the phenomenon of individuality when
everyone's physiology is so similar that our personas really ought to be
cookie-cutter duplicates, i.e. not just chips off the olde block, but exact
replicas of one and the self-same psychological block.
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● Eccl 12:7 . . And the dust returns to the ground it came from, and the
spirit returns to God who gave it.
●Luke 23:46 . . Jesus called out with a loud voice: Father, into your hands I
commit my spirit.
My questions are: What does God do with the spirits He collects from folks
when they pass on; and is each spirit unique?
* Scientists have yet to figure out the phenomenon of individuality when
everyone's physiology is so similar that our personas really ought to be
cookie-cutter duplicates, i.e. not just chips off the olde block, but exact
replicas of one and the self-same psychological block.
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