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RachelBibleStudent said:
already addressed...which was quite generous given the fact that there is no physical evidence of the molten steel...
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see the black dried stuff on the tip of that? what is that? you even said yourself that molten dries black... so what is it?
 
RachelBibleStudent said:
i forgot this one...although a photo like the one at the top left was posted before...i guess you ran out of 'evidence' and you are recycling now...

the photo proves nothing for two reasons...

first of all there were workers removing the steel beams from the site after 9/11...they would have had to cut them...so the photo could easily just be showing what was left of a beam that had been cut away by the workers...

secondly here is a link to a photo of a -broken- steel beam from a crane accident... 51st Street crane collapse | Arup | A global firm of consulting engineers, designers, planners and project managers

notice the similar 'dripping' appearance even though there was not actually any melting or dripping of this broken beam...
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when you see the picture of the beam there it there is a firefighter in the pic... this was way before they were doing the clean up
 
RachelBibleStudent said:
i forgot this one...although a photo like the one at the top left was posted before...i guess you ran out of 'evidence' and you are recycling now...

the photo proves nothing for two reasons...

first of all there were workers removing the steel beams from the site after 9/11...they would have had to cut them...so the photo could easily just be showing what was left of a beam that had been cut away by the workers...

secondly here is a link to a photo of a -broken- steel beam from a crane accident... 51st Street crane collapse | Arup | A global firm of consulting engineers, designers, planners and project managers

notice the similar 'dripping' appearance even though there was not actually any melting or dripping of this broken beam...
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firefighters...not demo workers
 
chootchooot said:
ok show a video of lead being heated to a bright orange color and then show what temperature it would have to be to get that hot, so you are saying these back up power supply batteries were on the 80th floor? and these batteries melted and somehow made it's way to the widow and poured out? and that these batteries were massive enough to be melted and for firefighters on the ground to see it falling from the 80th floor?
here are some more people who saw the melted steel John Gross NIST 911 Lead Investigator Molten Metal PEOPLE PLEASE PLEASE WATCH THIS.wmv - YouTube
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there was a battery backup power supply on the 81st floor in exactly that location...

most or all of the stuff in the batteries would have melted at temperatures of a few hundred degrees...

hypocritically you talk about the melted battery stuff 'somehow' making its way to the window as if this wouldn't have also been a problem for molten steel...a liquid would have flowed and pooled to wherever gravity caused it to go...in this case towards where the window was...

and the kind of battery power supply you would have in a skyscraper contains dozens if not hundreds of batteries that weigh probably like 100 pounds each...so yes there would have been enough to be seen from a distance...
 
chootchooot said:
here is a demolition expert who has been involved in demolishing buildings for many years listen to what the experts have to say

Demolition Expert Debunks the Debunkers - YouTube
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you say 'listen to what the experts have to say'...and then you -ignore- the -millions- of experts who -don't- say this was a 'controlled demolition'...

now i am sure you already -know- that your 'experts' represent a very small fringe of the total number of people in their fields...so the only possible reason for you to misrepresent the position of 'the experts' in this way is because your intention is purely to -deceive-

and when you do that you are speaking your father's language...'christian conspiracy theorist' is a contradiction in terms...
 
RachelBibleStudent said:
there was a battery backup power supply on the 81st floor in exactly that location...

most or all of the stuff in the batteries would have melted at temperatures of a few hundred degrees...

hypocritically you talk about the melted battery stuff 'somehow' making its way to the window as if this wouldn't have also been a problem for molten steel...a liquid would have flowed and pooled to wherever gravity caused it to go...in this case towards where the window was...

and the kind of battery power supply you would have in a skyscraper contains dozens if not hundreds of batteries that weigh probably like 100 pounds each...so yes there would have been enough to be seen from a distance...
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can you show anything of a battery being heated up to a glowing orange color? these are just all of your opinions but no proof of anything
 
chootchooot said:
ok this is getting silly now the world trade wasn't made out of wood and that is a fire, think we can tell the difference, can you show a liquid glowing campfire?
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yes this is getting very silly...there was wood and lots of other flammable stuff in the world trade center...think of all of the office furniture and everything else that can burn...

but apparently you don't think any of that stuff could have been burning and producing orange glows at ground zero...

and the conspiracy theorists wonder why their debates always turn to what they perceive as 'insults'...it is virtually impossible for a sane person to -not- call this stuff out for the unrestrained stupidity it is...
 
chootchooot said:
well you heven't showed anyone saying that there was no molten steel, maybe show a vid first, there would be no motives for these firefighters to lie about the molten steel
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there were tens of thousands of rescue workers at ground zero...tens of thousands of potential witnesses who -haven't said anything about seeing molten steel-...if there was molten steel there would be more people talking about it...

or do you think the tens of thousands of rescue workers...all of whom lost friends and colleagues in the disaster...many of whom are -still- dying today from the health effects...do you think they are part of the conspiracy too?

and this is part of why 9/11 conspiracy theorists are so thoroughly sickening...you people have no respect for any of the victims...as far as you are concerned they are just nobodies whose deaths you can use to further your shameless campaign of deception...
 
chootchooot said:
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see the black dried stuff on the tip of that? what is that? you even said yourself that molten dries black... so what is it?
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i already provided a link to a picture of a steel beam that was broken in an unrelated crane accident...it shows the same kind of 'dripping' appearance -without- any molten metal being involved...

and in any case there were workers removing the steel beams from the site...that would have no doubt involved cutting many of the beams...you have absolutely no evidence that this beam was cut -before- the towers collapsed...
 
RachelBibleStudent said:
there were tens of thousands of rescue workers at ground zero...tens of thousands of potential witnesses who -haven't said anything about seeing molten steel-...if there was molten steel there would be more people talking about it...

or do you think the tens of thousands of rescue workers...all of whom lost friends and colleagues in the disaster...many of whom are -still- dying today from the health effects...do you think they are part of the conspiracy too?

and this is part of why 9/11 conspiracy theorists are so thoroughly sickening...you people have no respect for any of the victims...as far as you are concerned they are just nobodies whose deaths you can use to further your shameless campaign of deception...
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it just gets silly cause office furniture doesn't turn into tons of melted orange stuff
 
chootchooot said:
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sigh...so since there are firefighters in the photo when it was taken...that proves no other workers could have been previously present to cut that beam?

did you assume the workers would stand around for a photo after cutting a beam?

and don't pay any attention to the man in a hard hat in the upper left corner of the photo...there couldn't have possibly been anyone other than firefighters there...

also don't pay attention to the other beams in the photo that -aren't- diagonally severed...we must tune out anything that doesn't support the conspiracy delusion!

i don't know whether you are being obtuse...or dishonest...or both...but this is becoming pathetic...
 
chootchooot said:
it just gets silly cause office furniture doesn't turn into tons of melted orange stuff
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no but tons of furniture and office supplies and other flammables from the towers would provide plenty of fuel for the patches of luminous orange stuff in the vast majority of your 'evidence' photos that sane people recognize as plain old fire...

everything so far can be completely explained based purely on the stuff we -know- was present...there is no need to come up with any conspiracy theory about thermite...
 
RachelBibleStudent said:
there were tens of thousands of rescue workers at ground zero...tens of thousands of potential witnesses who -haven't said anything about seeing molten steel-...if there was molten steel there would be more people talking about it...

or do you think the tens of thousands of rescue workers...all of whom lost friends and colleagues in the disaster...many of whom are -still- dying today from the health effects...do you think they are part of the conspiracy too?

and this is part of why 9/11 conspiracy theorists are so thoroughly sickening...you people have no respect for any of the victims...as far as you are concerned they are just nobodies whose deaths you can use to further your shameless campaign of deception...
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Again you make all these claims but haven't seen any evidence of anyone who was there that day saying there was no molten steel and that they never heard explosions and that 911 truthers are insulting... there are so many truthers who lost a loved one that day and the media has snubbed them,
have you seen this vid 9/11 Firefighter Blows WTC 7 Cover-Up Wide Open - YouTube
here is a first responder telling his story, can you post a vid of a first responder who thinks 911 truthers are insulting? also in the vid he talks about how firefighters weren't allowed to talk to the media about what they saw...
 
RachelBibleStudent said:
no but tons of furniture and office supplies and other flammables from the towers would provide plenty of fuel for the patches of luminous orange stuff in the vast majority of your 'evidence' photos that sane people recognize as plain old fire...

everything so far can be completely explained based purely on the stuff we -know- was present...there is no need to come up with any conspiracy theory about thermite...
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actually many scientist have found thermite in the dust from 911 Nine Scientists Find Active Nano-thermite in 9/11 WTC Dust -- April 6, 2009 - YouTube
 
chootchooot said:
Again you make all these claims but haven't seen any evidence of anyone who was there that day saying there was no molten steel and that they never heard explosions and that 911 truthers are insulting... there are so many truthers who lost a loved one that day and the media has snubbed them,
have you seen this vid 9/11 Firefighter Blows WTC 7 Cover-Up Wide Open - YouTube
here is a first responder telling his story, can you post a vid of a first responder who thinks 911 truthers are insulting? also in the vid he talks about how firefighters weren't allowed to talk to the media about what they saw...
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well there you go...just like i said...you think tens of thousands of rescue workers are purposely hiding the truth and aiding in a conspiracy...

all you are is a compulsive slanderer with no interest in the truth or even common decency...
 
RachelBibleStudent said:
no but tons of furniture and office supplies and other flammables from the towers would provide plenty of fuel for the patches of luminous orange stuff in the vast majority of your 'evidence' photos that sane people recognize as plain old fire...

everything so far can be completely explained based purely on the stuff we -know- was present...there is no need to come up with any conspiracy theory about thermite...
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here are some thermite pieces that were found in the dust

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chootchooot said:
actually many scientist have found thermite in the dust from 911 Nine Scientists Find Active Nano-thermite in 9/11 WTC Dust -- April 6, 2009 - YouTube
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actually what these crackpot pseudoscientists found was a mixture of tiny bits of aluminum and tiny bits of rust...and they assumed it had to be thermite which is made of powdered aluminum and iron oxide...

but this was a building with huge amounts of aluminum and steel...-of course- there are going to be tiny bits of aluminum and rust mixed in the rubble...

and actually the fact that they found this stuff at ground zero proves that it -wasn't- thermite...there is pretty much no such thing as 'unburned leftovers' from a thermite reaction...once a thermite fire starts you can't stop it...it keeps going until it is all used up...
 
RachelBibleStudent said:
no but tons of furniture and office supplies and other flammables from the towers would provide plenty of fuel for the patches of luminous orange stuff in the vast majority of your 'evidence' photos that sane people recognize as plain old fire...

everything so far can be completely explained based purely on the stuff we -know- was present...there is no need to come up with any conspiracy theory about thermite...
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RachelBibleStudent said:
sigh...so since there are firefighters in the photo when it was taken...that proves no other workers could have been previously present to cut that beam?

did you assume the workers would stand around for a photo after cutting a beam?

and don't pay any attention to the man in a hard hat in the upper left corner of the photo...there couldn't have possibly been anyone other than firefighters there...

also don't pay attention to the other beams in the photo that -aren't- diagonally severed...we must tune out anything that doesn't support the conspiracy delusion!

i don't know whether you are being obtuse...or dishonest...or both...but this is becoming pathetic...
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so you are saying the beam was cut? what did they use to cut the beam?
 
chootchooot said:
here are some thermite pieces that were found in the dust

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thermite is a fine powder...it doesn't come in millimeter sized pieces or it doesn't work...

not to mention the color shouldn't be tomato red...thermite has a rusty color...

here is what thermite -actually- looks like...

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