Which Commandments?

[Hizikyah]

613 of them?
What happened, did you guys get tired of singing Kumbye- Yah in the Kosher Korner so now you're coming back out here to stir things up?

Wow so personal attacks? What did I ever do to you Mr. Crossnote?

 

[Hizikyah]

613 of them?
What happened, did you guys get tired of singing Kumbye- Yah in the Kosher Korner so now you're coming back out here to stir things up?

Wow so personal attacks? What did I ever do to you Mr. Crossnote?

"and went to make war with those...who keep the Laws of Yahweh, and have the testimony of Yahshua Messiah"

Revelation 12:17, "And the dragon was enraged with the woman, and went to make war with those who forsook her seed; her seed being those who keep the Laws of Yahweh, and have the testimony of Yahshua Messiah."

1785. entolé
Definition: an ordinance, injunction, command, law.

 

[crossnote]

Wow so personal attacks? What did I ever do to you Mr. Crossnote?

It wasn't personal, it was to a general group in the 2nd person plural.

 

[Hizikyah]

Daniyl 7:25, "And he will speak great words against Yahweh, and will wear out; mentally attack to cause to fall away, the saints of Yahweh, and think to change times and Laws..."

 

[Hizikyah]

613 of them?
What happened, did you guys get tired of singing Kumbye- Yah in the Kosher Korner so now you're coming back out here to stir things up?

It wasn't personal, it was to a general group in the 2nd person plural.

In a reply to me you said, "you guys"

I was personally in the "group"

and

everyone in that "group" is a person.

This stuff happens regularly, but im called a pharisee...

 

[BradC]

When 'all have fallen short', we have fallen short of being able to produce God's righteousness even when we keep the law. Righteousness can only be produced in us through the Spirit and through faith. Christ is our righteousness and through Him we have righteousness and can produce His righteousness by faith. If I sin and confess my sin unto God, the righteousness produced in me was the act of confessing my sin for that is the commandment that we do by faith and then God is faithful and just to forgive and cleanse us from all unrighteousness. The righteousness that God acted upon was our faith confession and He did the same for the publican when he confessed himself a sinner. God acted with His mercy and instantly justified that man before he got home. We have access to the throne of God because of our priesthood and high priest and we should use that access by faith and not neglect it to obtain mercy and find grace in the time of need.

 

[john832]

613 of them?
What happened, did you guys get tired of singing Kumbye- Yah in the Kosher Korner so now you're coming back out here to stir things up?

Can you tell me what is wrong with any of those Commandments? Which one of them did God make a mistake on?

 

[eternally-gratefull]

So I posted this:



and you replied with this... you dont understand those do you? How could you accuse me of bad doctrine when I posted 3 VERSES?



John 14:23, "Yahshua answered, and said to him: If a man loves Me, he will keep My teachings and My Father will love him, and We will come to him and make Our home with him."

so you think posting verses is enough? The jews did this, did they have good doctrine,

you will have to do better than that my friend.

Why do we keep Gods commands?

So we can be saved?

Or because God loved us first, And we return that love to God? you answered the question in your own post.

ohn 14:23, "Yahshua answered, and said to him: If a man loves Me, he will keep My teachings and My Father will love him, and We will come to him and make Our home with him."

How can we love God, Unless we have been filled with Gods love first?

1 John 4:10
In this is love, not that we have loved God but that he loved us and sent his Son to be the propitiation for our sins.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Heb 6:4 For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted the heavenly gift, and have become partakers of the Holy Spirit,
Heb 6:5 and have tasted the good word of God and the powers of the age to come,
Heb 6:6 if they fall away, to renew them again to repentance, since they crucify again for themselves the Son of God, and put Him to an open shame.
Heb 6:7 For the earth which drinks in the rain that often comes upon it, and bears herbs useful for those by whom it is cultivated, receives blessing from God;
Heb 6:8 but if it bears thorns and briers, it is rejected and near to being cursed, whose end is to be burned.

Heb 10:26 For if we sin willfully after we have received the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins,
Heb 10:27 but a certain fearful expectation of judgment, and fiery indignation which will devour the adversaries.
Heb 10:28 Anyone who has rejected Moses' law dies without mercy on the testimony of two or three witnesses.
Heb 10:29 Of how much worse punishment, do you suppose, will he be thought worthy who has trampled the Son of God underfoot, counted the blood of the covenant by which he was sanctified a common thing, and insulted the Spirit of grace?
Heb 10:30 For we know Him who said, "VENGEANCE IS MINE, I WILL REPAY," says the Lord. And again, "THE LORD WILL JUDGE HIS PEOPLE."
Heb 10:31 It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.

Because we have free moral agency, we can turn away from God by willful, continual sin and be condemned to the fire.

so in other words.

The blood of Christ has not cleansed you from all sin.

Your do not actually believe God has removed the curse of the law for you. for you still believe the curse can come back and get you and send you to hell.

you do believe the blood of God can fade from the doorposts. so when the angel of death comes, he will nto see it, and take you to hell with him, You do believe the blood sprinkled on the mercy seat by Christ himself will fade away, and he is not seated at the right hand of God making intercession for you.

Your trying to save yourself.

Thank you for PROVING what I have said all along.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

John 14:15 "If you love Me, keep My commandments.
Deuteronomy 11:26-28, "Behold, I set before you this day a blessing and a curse;A blessing, if ye obey the commandments of the LORD your God, which I command you this day: And a curse, if ye will not obey the commandments of the LORD your God, but turn aside out of the way which I command you this day, to go after other gods, which ye have not known."

Revelation 14:12, "Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.."

Romans 2:12, "For as many as have sinned without the Law, will also perish without the Law, and as many as have sinned in the Law, will be judged by the Law."

Yahchanan (John) 5:28-30, “Do not be astonished at this-for the hour is coming in which all who are in the graves will hear His voice, and will come forth. Those who have practiced righteousness will be resurrected in order to live; and those who have practiced wickedness will be resurrected in order to be damned."

Acts 17:30-31, “In the past Yahweh winked at such ignorance, but now He commands all men everywhere to repent! For He has appointed a day in which He will judge the world in righteousness, by a Man whom He has ordained; and He has given evidence to everyone by raising Him from the dead.”


2 Corinthians 5:10, “For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Messiah, that each one may receive his reward according to what he has done in the body, whether righteous or evil.”

so. those verses go against what Paul and moses said, Making what Moses and paul said non applicable to our lives.

Thank you for proving the words of God mean nothing.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Since we have started here, you seem to believe that a person has NO CHOICE in the matter. Once saved, they can NEVER CHANGE their mind. They cannot do what the writer of Hebrews says they can do. You say they cannot, scripture says they can (Heb 6:4-8, 10:26-31).

I gotta go with scripture on this one.

No. I am not saying they can't.

I am saying THEY WONT. (huge difference)

They put the blood on the doorpost.

They allowed Christ the high priest to sprinkle his blood on the mercy seat of God.

because they knew their plight,

And you want me to believe one day they will change their minds and think, Nope. I was wrong, I am not a sinner, God does not need to save me?

What kind of faith is that?

I also do not believe God is going to give what he says is a GUFT to someone HE KNOWS is going to one day reject it.

Did God not say he saved us before time began.

If he saved us BEFORE the world was created, how is he one day going to say sorry, you did not live up to my standard, I screwed up and gave you salvation. I was wrong.

can you not see how you MOCK the omniscience of God when you make such claims?

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Wait... so your verse stays but does this one go?

Exodus 20:6, "But showing love to thousands who love Me by keeping My Laws."

Did Daniel do this? How about david?

Did they understand their curse? or did they try to be godly by serving self and the law?

that verse does not contradict what Moses said about the curse, the curse still stands, it will never stop doing what Moses said it would do.

Only the blood of Christ can remove that curse.

 

[Hizikyah]

so. those verses go against what Paul and moses said, Making what Moses and paul said non applicable to our lives.

Thank you for proving the words of God mean nothing.

All I did was post verses, not a single word of my own and this...

Have a nice day.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

613 of them?
What happened, did you guys get tired of singing Kumbye- Yah in the Kosher Korner so now you're coming back out here to stir things up?

Amen. what about the laws of God above these 613, I guess it is ok to break these?

 

[eternally-gratefull]

All I did was post verses, not a single word of my own and this...

Have a nice day.

I can post verses all day long

It does not make me right.

Yes you posted them, and I posted a verse which contradicts them (according to your interpretation of them)

so instead of showing me how they do not contradict, you judge me (typical legalistic thing by the way, you always do that)

Have a nice eternity, I know i will, I fear you will not.

God luck in your legalism and trying to appease an angry and vengeful God by your good deeds.

 

[Hizikyah]

Only the blood of Christ can remove that curse.

This was from our conversation a few minutes ago

Messiah has freed us from the curses. Yet im supposed pronounce curses on myself, CRAZY!

After I said that you said this 2 posts later;

yeah really.

I posted the verses which prove it.

Why will you not admit what moses and paul said, and admit you are still cursed by the law? (notice I did not say cursed by God, I said cursed by the law)

 

[crossnote]

Can you tell me what is wrong with any of those Commandments? Which one of them did God make a mistake on?

I never said God made a mistake. Go back to your animal sacrifices since God ordained them.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

This was from our conversation a few minutes ago



After I said that you said this 2 posts later;

You keep missing the important part of our posts together Just like you do with scripture.

Is your eternal life secure in Christ?

Or are you still trying to assureit by yourself/ hoping you do not fall away?

 

[Hizikyah]

You keep missing the important part of our posts together Just like you do with scripture.

Is your eternal life secure in Christ?

Or are you still trying to assureit by yourself/ hoping you do not fall away?

Words are cheap, Hitler could say he was secure in Christ, does no make it true.

Romans 6:16, "Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness?"


I listen to the Messiah.


Mattithyah 24:12, "And because iniquity will abound, the love of the many will grow cold."

"iniquity" is:#0458 anomia {an-om-ee'-ah} from G0459

Greek Word Study (Transliteration-Pronunciation Etymology & Grammar)
1) the condition of without law
1a) because ignorant of it
1b) because of violating it
2) contempt and violation of law, iniquity, wickedness

2 peter 3:15-17, "And count the patience of our Lord as salvation, just as our beloved brother Paul also wrote to you according to the wisdom given him, as he does in all his letters when he speaks in them of these matters. There are some things in them that are hard to understand, which the ignorant and unstable twist to their own destruction, as they do the other Scriptures. You therefore, beloved, knowing this beforehand, take care that you are not carried away with the error of lawless people and lose your own stability."

 

[Hizikyah]

Words are cheap, Hitler could say he was secure in Christ, does no make it true.

Romans 6:16, "Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness?"


I listen to the Messiah.


Mattithyah 24:12, "And because iniquity will abound, the love of the many will grow cold."

"iniquity" is:#0458 anomia {an-om-ee'-ah} from G0459

Greek Word Study (Transliteration-Pronunciation Etymology & Grammar)
1) the condition of without law
1a) because ignorant of it
1b) because of violating it
2) contempt and violation of law, iniquity, wickedness

2 peter 3:15-17, "And count the patience of our Lord as salvation, just as our beloved brother Paul also wrote to you according to the wisdom given him, as he does in all his letters when he speaks in them of these matters. There are some things in them that are hard to understand, which the ignorant and unstable twist to their own destruction, as they do the other Scriptures. You therefore, beloved, knowing this beforehand, take care that you are not carried away with the error of lawless people and lose your own stability."

Heb 4:2, "For this message was preached to us, as well as to them; but the word which they heard did not benefit them, because they did not share in the faith of those who obeyed. "