Which Person Is Living More Of A Godly Lifestyle?

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Which Person Is Living More Of A Godly Lifestyle?

  • Person 1

  • Person 2

  • I think it evens up the same, just in different ways.

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Xethea

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Locoponydirtman said:
I have read lots of good answers from some real reasonable folks. You can either accept their answers or not.
Your walk is not judged by someone else's walk. You are either practicing your faith and engaging in the capacity that God has given you or you are not.
Test yourselves to see if you are in the faith; examine yourselves! Or do you not recognize this about yourselves, that Jesus Christ is in you-unless indeed you fail the test?
2 Corinthians 13:5 NASB
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Right it isn't judged by someone elses, although the scripture does say some will have more rewards in heaven and some less. or you may call them treasures. People debate on what those are.
But surely, we can look at the facts of our actions and tell if we are living a godly lifestyle more than we could be.

The person 1 and person 2 could really just pretend it is me. One could be the old me and the other the new me. Can't you say if I lived which way or the other if I used to live more of a godly lifestyle or if didn't? Does God not have specific commands of how we should live?
I could simply ask- should I play video games all day today or read scripture? Is there no answer for what God would rather want me to do?
I could say, should I help that homeless person have some clothes for the winter, or just ignore his needs?

Can we REALLY not answer the poll here to this? I can.
 
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Xethea

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Miri said:
Entirely circumstantial.

The Pharisees openly prayed, boasted about fasting and obeyed every
commendment to the letter. But Jesus said they were like white washed
tombs full of dead men’s bones!

The widow had barely anything to give just a penny “mite”. But she gave her all.
But then she would not have had anything to give the beggars she passed on the
Streets.

Mary broke a jaw of expensive perfume over Jesus’ feet in an act which was
apparently very wasteful. But Jesus commended her for it.

Nothing is ever entirely black and white. Only God knows a person’s heart.

For example maybe the person working 80 hours a week, is paying off a lot of
debt. Maybe they are saving up for something very special. I know someone who
saves up lots of money then at Christmas every year they give it to a children’s
charity.

Maybe they are saving up for their children’s education etc and they want to
give them what they never had.

Maybe the person who seems to do a lot for others, goes around bragging
about it or makes others feel beholden to them. We had a lady in my last
church who gave a lot of money to the church but in return she expected a
big say in how it was run and what her money was spent on.

Life is never that black and white as the examples you give.
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all your ideas there would be great, but no, they don't do any of those good things with their money. As described for person 2, they save all their money in their bank account for thousands of dollars so they can use it when they want to buy something expensive for themselves or in case some problems come up. With those details, it makes it where you can't walk around it and try to think they are using their money for something else like a charity. If that was the case, I would have described those things in there to name the good things they do.
Even so, is helping get Christmas presents for anyone more important than helping the homeless people have food and clothes, or the poor neighbors have a home or lend them a hand with their financial struggle, and your own family that lives right outside your house? Should would help people we don't know more than people we know very personally?
 
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The OP is nothing less than a veiled attack on Christ's bride and a broad-brushing of those who make up the church as hypocrites.

The former are self-righteous and hate the church. I got bad diesel once and swore off all fueling stations.

Not.

I just went to another one.

The "I've been hurt and don't go anymore" is a lame and convenient excuse. But one thing that is apparent in the presented hypothetical situation is they certainly are more than willing to paint themselves as right with God while pointing a condemning finger at others. It is Luke 18:9-14 on display.

It's highly probable they could be the ones referenced in Matthew 7:21-23.
 
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Xethea

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So far, the votes agree with me
 
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presidente

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Scenario 1 sounds like better stewardship of time and resources to me. I do think it makes sense to decrease working hours if you can if you can meet your obligations if it means you are using time for ministery, including investing time into the lives of your children.

I wonder about the use of 'chapel.' Do you go to a church that like to use the word 'chapel.' I usually here that used of services on campuses and places like that.
 
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I am going to step out here, and say I want the best of both people. Person one is disobeying God in many ways, by not going to church, and not forgiving the people that hurt him. Person two- well, take your pick.

This is such a ridiculous arbitrary scenario. Why don't you spend your time reading the Bible, instead of posting all these ridiculous things which have no application to real life! You would be farther ahead, and so would the rest of us!
 
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Xethea

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presidente said:
Scenario 1 sounds like better stewardship of time and resources to me. I do think it makes sense to decrease working hours if you can if you can meet your obligations if it means you are using time for ministery, including investing time into the lives of your children.

I wonder about the use of 'chapel.' Do you go to a church that like to use the word 'chapel.' I usually here that used of services on campuses and places like that.
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No, that's not why I use "chapel." when you look up the definition of chapel, it refers to a building where Christians meet or worship. Church can in some definition be seen that way, but it also means the Body of Christ. As I read throughout scripture, people didn't worship and pray together much like we do these days, that we always come to this one building on the same days every week at a very certain hour. People can meet anytime anywhere and they are the Church.

I use it to help those who don't understand the Church is the Body of Christ, that we are the Church, the building isn't church, and the service isn't Church. When I say Church, people who know me, know I'm referring to God's people who are saved, as we are all a part of one body and Christ is the head of us. When I say chapel, they know I'm referring to a place I go to meet the Church there.
 
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presidente

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Xethea,

I get you. I use 'church building' for that. The reason is 'chapel' is specific in my mind, like a service for a school or some organization that is not considered a 'church' in the institutional sense of the word.

I do consider the meeting to be 'church' since 'ekklesia' signifies an assembly in Greek.
 
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Xethea

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presidente said:
Xethea,

I get you. I use 'church building' for that. The reason is 'chapel' is specific in my mind, like a service for a school or some organization that is not considered a 'church' in the institutional sense of the word.

I do consider the meeting to be 'church' since 'ekklesia' signifies an assembly in Greek.
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Yes. I don't disagree with that. We two or more gather anytime anywhere, we are the church. When people think they have to "go to church," they honestly many times don't understand they can meet anywhere for Church. The building doesn't make it Church, it's you being together as one in Christ, which can be anywhere.
 
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7seasrekeyed

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you state in your profile the following:

I can advise and help others.
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please note this op is not at all indicative of an understanding of salvation

we all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God (Romans 3:23)

the blood of Christ washes away all our sin and God's Holy Spirit enables us to live for Him

it is useless to copy people because each and every one of us are equal in the eyes of God. one is not better than the other. sure there are people who set good examples...but you know where they get their inspiration?

from the Bible and spending time with God in prayer...prayer that is real and speaks from the heart.
 
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Xethea

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7seasrekeyed said:
you state in your profile the following:



please note this op is not at all indicative of an understanding of salvation

we all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God (Romans 3:23)

the blood of Christ washes away all our sin and God's Holy Spirit enables us to live for Him

it is useless to copy people because each and every one of us are equal in the eyes of God. one is not better than the other. sure there are people who set good examples...but you know where they get their inspiration?

from the Bible and spending time with God in prayer...prayer that is real and speaks from the heart.
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So you don't believe we need to set godly examples? You believe no one needs to encourage, motivate, guide or show what it is to be like Christ?
 
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7seasrekeyed

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Xethea said:
So you don't believe we need to set godly examples? You believe no one needs to encourage, motivate, guide or show what it is to be like Christ?
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so you don't believe in actually responding to what I wrote but rather prefer to stick to your own unbiblical agenda?

got it

anyone with 2 or even 1 eye can read what I actually wrote

where is the good advice you promise? what does the Bible actually say regarding salvation? do works save?

see, I actually wrote :

sure there are people who set good examples...but you know where they get their inspiration?

from the Bible and spending time with God in prayer...prayer that is real and speaks from the heart.

which states what you say I don't believe

come on man. let's try and be truthful otherwise there is no use in responding to you :(
 
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Xethea

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7seasrekeyed said:
you state in your profile the following:



please note this op is not at all indicative of an understanding of salvation

we all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God (Romans 3:23)

the blood of Christ washes away all our sin and God's Holy Spirit enables us to live for Him

it is useless to copy people because each and every one of us are equal in the eyes of God. one is not better than the other. sure there are people who set good examples...but you know where they get their inspiration?

from the Bible and spending time with God in prayer...prayer that is real and speaks from the heart.
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I only get my example from Christ. And Christ shows me his examples through his word and through his people.

Don't you know people who set examples influence people? We are humans, all we know to do is copy or make up our own way. We WILL influence people around us and they WILL influence us. The Bible doesn't do that alone. The book doesn't move, it doesn't work, it doesn't teach. We teach, we work, we move, we use the Bible as a tool within all that. If we don't teach people, then they wont know the Bible, and if people before us didn't do the same, we wouldn't know or care for the Bible either. Therefor the Bible would have no effect on our lives
 
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7seasrekeyed

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Xethea said:
I only get my example from Christ. And Christ shows me his examples through his word and through his people.

Don't you know people who set examples influence people? We are humans, all we know to do is copy or make up our own way. We WILL influence people around us and they WILL influence us. The Bible doesn't do that alone. The book doesn't move, it doesn't work, it doesn't teach. We teach, we work, we move, we use the Bible as a tool within all that. If we don't teach people, then they wont know the Bible, and if people before us didn't do the same, we wouldn't know or care for the Bible either. Therefor the Bible would have no effect on our lives
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why are Christians given the Holy Spirit?
 
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Xethea

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7seasrekeyed said:
so you don't believe in actually responding to what I wrote but rather prefer to stick to your own unbiblical agenda?

got it

anyone with 2 or even 1 eye can read what I actually wrote

where is the good advice you promise? what does the Bible actually say regarding salvation? do works save?

see, I actually wrote :

sure there are people who set good examples...but you know where they get their inspiration?

from the Bible and spending time with God in prayer...prayer that is real and speaks from the heart.

which states what you say I don't believe

come on man. let's try and be truthful otherwise there is no use in responding to you :(
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Christ is our example? Is he not? We are now to be the example of him living in us now that he is not here. That is what he told us he wants to do. Apparently, you don't know that.
 
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7seasrekeyed

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Xethea said:
Exactly.
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well you don't know it appears

who is Jesus Christ and why do we receive the Holy Spirit when we believe in Him?

I'm not responding to you after this ... unless you start to make sense or illustrate you understand what it is you say others lack in understanding. I don't play games
 
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