Who and what are the two beast of Revelation 13 and mark 666?
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Hey brother, I had a slow night at work last night and was able to do some quality meditation on Gog/Magog and how they may fit into the beast's (Satan's) empire during the last days, and these verses kept ringing in my thoughts:
Revelation 13:7-9
New King James Version
7 It was granted to him to make war with the saints and to overcome them. And authority was given him over every [a]tribe, tongue, and nation. 8 All who dwell on the earth will worship him, whose names have not been written in the Book of Life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.
9 If anyone has an ear, let him hear.
The literal interpretation for this is straight-forward. The beast will have authority over the entire world and will even be worshipped. This charismatic yet crooked despot under the power of the devil will rule the world for a short time, and even current hostile nations of the West like China, Russia, and Iran could unite under this facade of a peaceful and prosperous world order for all nations to enjoy.
I've been in industry for over 35 years, and it wasn't that long ago that we here in the U.S. had a great trade arrangement and relationship with both China and Russia. We were encouraged (and even forced in some cases) as automotive buyers to source as much business as possible with China if there was a substantial cost savings, and Russian steel was a hot commodity. Money can bring the worst of enemies together for at least a short time if it benefits the "partnerships". How quickly that can all fall apart when circumstances change (e.g. current state relationship between the U.S. and China/Russia).
The U.N. makes much more sense to me now as the beast's potential organizing entity that he can coerce with charisma and deception. The devil will be pulling all of his old tricks out of the bag during the short power/prosperity the beast will have during the tribulation.
Revelation 13:7-9
New King James Version
7 It was granted to him to make war with the saints and to overcome them. And authority was given him over every [a]tribe, tongue, and nation. 8 All who dwell on the earth will worship him, whose names have not been written in the Book of Life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.
9 If anyone has an ear, let him hear.
The literal interpretation for this is straight-forward. The beast will have authority over the entire world and will even be worshipped. This charismatic yet crooked despot under the power of the devil will rule the world for a short time, and even current hostile nations of the West like China, Russia, and Iran could unite under this facade of a peaceful and prosperous world order for all nations to enjoy.
I've been in industry for over 35 years, and it wasn't that long ago that we here in the U.S. had a great trade arrangement and relationship with both China and Russia. We were encouraged (and even forced in some cases) as automotive buyers to source as much business as possible with China if there was a substantial cost savings, and Russian steel was a hot commodity. Money can bring the worst of enemies together for at least a short time if it benefits the "partnerships". How quickly that can all fall apart when circumstances change (e.g. current state relationship between the U.S. and China/Russia).
The U.N. makes much more sense to me now as the beast's potential organizing entity that he can coerce with charisma and deception. The devil will be pulling all of his old tricks out of the bag during the short power/prosperity the beast will have during the tribulation.
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“even current hostile nations of the West like China, Russia, and Iran could unite under this facade of a peaceful and prosperous world order for all nations to enjoy.”
yea I consider Islam to definately be involved if things unfold in our time goven nations like Iran and so many Islamic nations position against Israel and tbier efforts to gather the worlds support against Israel as of late
“And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison, and shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea. And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.”
Revelation 20:7-9 KJV
i myself believe the “ 1000” year reign is in heaven and whenever Jesus returns to earth is the end of it and that’s when the last resurrection happens. So it gives me a bit of a different perspective of revelation ( not insisting my view is the right view but it is how I do look at it as if his reign is in heaven and has been going on a very long time which is what 1000 years represents a long drawn out time period. Where as for instance “ they took power with him for one hour “ would represent an extremely short period of time … I hope that explains some of my wierd ideas hahaha
a yeah I like what you wrote in this one it’s a good one to reflect and consider
yea I consider Islam to definately be involved if things unfold in our time goven nations like Iran and so many Islamic nations position against Israel and tbier efforts to gather the worlds support against Israel as of late
“And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison, and shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea. And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.”
Revelation 20:7-9 KJV
i myself believe the “ 1000” year reign is in heaven and whenever Jesus returns to earth is the end of it and that’s when the last resurrection happens. So it gives me a bit of a different perspective of revelation ( not insisting my view is the right view but it is how I do look at it as if his reign is in heaven and has been going on a very long time which is what 1000 years represents a long drawn out time period. Where as for instance “ they took power with him for one hour “ would represent an extremely short period of time … I hope that explains some of my wierd ideas hahaha
a yeah I like what you wrote in this one it’s a good one to reflect and consider
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yeah I like what you wrote in this one it’s a good one to reflect and consider
i really think the technology we have in modern days also is something that needed to happen before the end for some of it to make sense and also o believe fully that Islam is a real player and the worlds opinion of Israel currently if it’s at all going to be in my life it would be happening pretty soon and of course we can see things line up but maybe they can in every generation see some of the signs because we’re meant to live as if it’s imminent and going to be soon so we live more ready and as if it’s real
It’s easy get overwhelmed with earthly life when we’re young and have families and jobs and a life to the point we aren’t really aware of things happening in tbe world around us through a biblical insight . I say this because I remember times in my life that it describes me
forget to even pray sometimes or study at all back in the old days and was so in the dark about biblical matters not even considering them believing them always for certain bit often not really having them as a priority or as if it’s all true and real and close and ready to happen soon someday
Of course not to a panic state but to a live upright and be ready state . Don’t do that old evil but do that new good kind of way sort of waking up from a slumber sort of way
Or rising from the dead sort of way. Maybe everyone in every generation sees earthquakes and eclipses and hears of wars and rumors of wars and maybe nations have always fought against nations ect
Im not sure that makes sense eventually it’s all coming to pass but maybe also there’s a design to it so we live as if Jesus is coming soon so we need to look at it this way through Gods true and saving grace
“For the grace of God that bringeth salvation hath appeared to all men, teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly, in this present world; looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and Saviour Jesus Christ;
who gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from all iniquity, and purify unto himself a peculiar people, zealous of good works. These things speak, and exhort, and rebuke with all authority. Let no man despise thee.”
Titus 2:11-15 KJV
maybe the whole design of the gospel is meant to move us to action as we hear and believe so we live life as if he’s truly with us because he really is ….
i really think the technology we have in modern days also is something that needed to happen before the end for some of it to make sense and also o believe fully that Islam is a real player and the worlds opinion of Israel currently if it’s at all going to be in my life it would be happening pretty soon and of course we can see things line up but maybe they can in every generation see some of the signs because we’re meant to live as if it’s imminent and going to be soon so we live more ready and as if it’s real
It’s easy get overwhelmed with earthly life when we’re young and have families and jobs and a life to the point we aren’t really aware of things happening in tbe world around us through a biblical insight . I say this because I remember times in my life that it describes me
forget to even pray sometimes or study at all back in the old days and was so in the dark about biblical matters not even considering them believing them always for certain bit often not really having them as a priority or as if it’s all true and real and close and ready to happen soon someday
Of course not to a panic state but to a live upright and be ready state . Don’t do that old evil but do that new good kind of way sort of waking up from a slumber sort of way
Or rising from the dead sort of way. Maybe everyone in every generation sees earthquakes and eclipses and hears of wars and rumors of wars and maybe nations have always fought against nations ect
Im not sure that makes sense eventually it’s all coming to pass but maybe also there’s a design to it so we live as if Jesus is coming soon so we need to look at it this way through Gods true and saving grace
“For the grace of God that bringeth salvation hath appeared to all men, teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly, in this present world; looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and Saviour Jesus Christ;
who gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from all iniquity, and purify unto himself a peculiar people, zealous of good works. These things speak, and exhort, and rebuke with all authority. Let no man despise thee.”
Titus 2:11-15 KJV
maybe the whole design of the gospel is meant to move us to action as we hear and believe so we live life as if he’s truly with us because he really is ….
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“The U.N. makes much more sense to me now as the beast's potential organizing entity that he can coerce with charisma and deception”
yes privately I’m totally on board with the same thinking brother the u.n.s stance against Israel really since it was formed tells me a lot and just looking at the movements across the world currently in some of those nations against Christianity and also the Jewish people im general as it has been perpetually in tbe world for so very long against them
It seems to me the world is moving rapidly and against Israel in tbe generwl public opinions regarding the current conflict in Gaza there are nations that have never been against them starting to now turn against them . Plus irans proxy arms and terror cells throughout the e tire Middle East have to be part of it all as well isis Hamas ect ect
the reason is say Islam is tbier charter and tbier position that God “absolutely has no son and Jesus didn’t die for anyone else’s sins or rise from the deed …. they consider it blasphemy to believe Christianityas well as the vastly growing Islamic population and sects of the religion also around the world in many many nations
notice the mass I checked migrations across America and Europe and the mass protests against Israel in America and Europe wherever Islam comes to take power and populate hate against Jews and Christianity comes behind it
yes privately I’m totally on board with the same thinking brother the u.n.s stance against Israel really since it was formed tells me a lot and just looking at the movements across the world currently in some of those nations against Christianity and also the Jewish people im general as it has been perpetually in tbe world for so very long against them
It seems to me the world is moving rapidly and against Israel in tbe generwl public opinions regarding the current conflict in Gaza there are nations that have never been against them starting to now turn against them . Plus irans proxy arms and terror cells throughout the e tire Middle East have to be part of it all as well isis Hamas ect ect
the reason is say Islam is tbier charter and tbier position that God “absolutely has no son and Jesus didn’t die for anyone else’s sins or rise from the deed …. they consider it blasphemy to believe Christianityas well as the vastly growing Islamic population and sects of the religion also around the world in many many nations
notice the mass I checked migrations across America and Europe and the mass protests against Israel in America and Europe wherever Islam comes to take power and populate hate against Jews and Christianity comes behind it
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Yeah, Islam is one of the great lies the enemy has over the Arab and Persian people. In 2012, after the mullahs were exposed as puppets for the government in Iran a new cry was heard by many Iranians: "We are Iranians!" This contrasted the typical cry of support for Muhammad and the Qur'an. This trend, removing oneself from Islam, has been increasing ever since. Just recently, some prominent imams publicly voiced their concern for the young people leaving, or not embracing, Islam.
Word on the ground is that many are quietly coming to Christ
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I sure hope so I knew a few Muslims who were in the army and then later in life one of them converted to Christianity the other sort of stopped believing in everything as far as the last contact I had with him bout ten years ago .
Over the years I’ve met Wiccan people Buddhists Islamic folks ect probably so
Many religions I did t even understand or ask about or ever hear them speak about. It seems like even in Egypt early in scripture man was creating “ gods “ for them to worship rather than worshipping God thier creator
It must be the big lie it was also Israel’s downfall in the old testsment
Over the years I’ve met Wiccan people Buddhists Islamic folks ect probably so
Many religions I did t even understand or ask about or ever hear them speak about. It seems like even in Egypt early in scripture man was creating “ gods “ for them to worship rather than worshipping God thier creator
It must be the big lie it was also Israel’s downfall in the old testsment
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You're right, Pilgrim, that technology has helped pave the way for the end times, and I am amazed at how quickly circumstances in our world have changed from where we were just a few short years ago. It reminded me of the verse from Daniel:
Daniel 12:4
New King James Version
4 “But you, Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book until the time of the end; many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall increase.”
Where industrialized nations were engaging in economic development with countries like China, Taiwan, Vietnam, and even Russia, now the world is preparing for war. Putin is even threatening to use nuclear weapons, and he may be that dumb if he becomes desperate and backed into a corner.
Where we as a race were running "to and fro" to fuel our consumer driven society before Covid, now countries are scrambling "to and fro" to develop arsenals. And, the technology that's being developed to kill one another is staggering. We could be killed by an enemy we don't even see face-to-face if, for example, we are the victim of a drone strike or like those poor souls in Gaza whose car was bombed on the way to feed hungry people.
I was taking a look at this "second beast" from Revelation 13, who is commonly referred to as the "false prophet" in alignment with the beast under Satan's authority, and it's amazing the power that God will allow this "imposter trinity" (as Henry Halley describes them) to have:
Revelation 13:11-14
New King James Version
The Beast from the Earth
11 Then I saw another beast coming up out of the earth, and he had two horns like a lamb and spoke like a dragon. 12 And he exercises all the authority of the first beast in his presence, and causes the earth and those who dwell in it to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed.
13 He performs great signs, so that he even makes fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men. 14 And he deceives [a]those who dwell on the earth by those signs which he was granted to do in the sight of the beast, telling those who dwell on the earth to make an image to the beast who was wounded by the sword and lived.
Halley notes that this "lamb beast is afterward called the "false prophet" (Rev. 16:13, 19:20, 20:10 that is, the pretender lamb." Halley and other sources I've looked at reminded me how much the devil tries to impersonate God, and Jesus warns about this in His Olivet prophecy as well. This second beast has "two horns like a lamb" but speaks like a dragon. While he may appear religious and "good", this beast is clearly exposed to Christians by the doctrine of Satan that will spew from his mouth.
It's amazing that the false prophet "even makes fire come down from heaven." That's been a power that only God Himself has used sparingly in the past (e.g. Sodom and Gomorra, and Elizah calling down fire from heaven on the followers of Baal). Making "an image to the beast" is idolatrous, so this imposter will not fool the elect. Thankfully, this false trinity will only be in power for a short time before Jesus crushes it at His triumphant return.
Daniel 12:4
New King James Version
4 “But you, Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book until the time of the end; many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall increase.”
Where industrialized nations were engaging in economic development with countries like China, Taiwan, Vietnam, and even Russia, now the world is preparing for war. Putin is even threatening to use nuclear weapons, and he may be that dumb if he becomes desperate and backed into a corner.
Where we as a race were running "to and fro" to fuel our consumer driven society before Covid, now countries are scrambling "to and fro" to develop arsenals. And, the technology that's being developed to kill one another is staggering. We could be killed by an enemy we don't even see face-to-face if, for example, we are the victim of a drone strike or like those poor souls in Gaza whose car was bombed on the way to feed hungry people.
I was taking a look at this "second beast" from Revelation 13, who is commonly referred to as the "false prophet" in alignment with the beast under Satan's authority, and it's amazing the power that God will allow this "imposter trinity" (as Henry Halley describes them) to have:
Revelation 13:11-14
New King James Version
The Beast from the Earth
11 Then I saw another beast coming up out of the earth, and he had two horns like a lamb and spoke like a dragon. 12 And he exercises all the authority of the first beast in his presence, and causes the earth and those who dwell in it to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed.
13 He performs great signs, so that he even makes fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men. 14 And he deceives [a]those who dwell on the earth by those signs which he was granted to do in the sight of the beast, telling those who dwell on the earth to make an image to the beast who was wounded by the sword and lived.
Halley notes that this "lamb beast is afterward called the "false prophet" (Rev. 16:13, 19:20, 20:10 that is, the pretender lamb." Halley and other sources I've looked at reminded me how much the devil tries to impersonate God, and Jesus warns about this in His Olivet prophecy as well. This second beast has "two horns like a lamb" but speaks like a dragon. While he may appear religious and "good", this beast is clearly exposed to Christians by the doctrine of Satan that will spew from his mouth.
It's amazing that the false prophet "even makes fire come down from heaven." That's been a power that only God Himself has used sparingly in the past (e.g. Sodom and Gomorra, and Elizah calling down fire from heaven on the followers of Baal). Making "an image to the beast" is idolatrous, so this imposter will not fool the elect. Thankfully, this false trinity will only be in power for a short time before Jesus crushes it at His triumphant return.
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Amen brother fabulous insight and read through thanks for taking the time to share that !!!
Do you think the speaking as a dragon but looking like a lamb is telling us of a massive distortion of Christian doctrine ? Claiming to be of Christ the lamb but the words don’t match the words sound like satans ?
sort of the dragons words might come from here and infiltrate the church ( written 1900 yrs ago )
“For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; and they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.”
2 Timothy 4:3-4 KJV
spake as a dragon but looked like a lamb ?
The father of lies seems to be behind the fables . And so is the appearance of a lamb but words of the dragon a false church in the world ? Or rather false doctrine labeled Christianity ?
whoch is that’s the case we’re already in full swing hearing the distortions and denials of the actual words of the lamb
Do you think the speaking as a dragon but looking like a lamb is telling us of a massive distortion of Christian doctrine ? Claiming to be of Christ the lamb but the words don’t match the words sound like satans ?
sort of the dragons words might come from here and infiltrate the church ( written 1900 yrs ago )
“For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; and they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.”
2 Timothy 4:3-4 KJV
spake as a dragon but looked like a lamb ?
The father of lies seems to be behind the fables . And so is the appearance of a lamb but words of the dragon a false church in the world ? Or rather false doctrine labeled Christianity ?
whoch is that’s the case we’re already in full swing hearing the distortions and denials of the actual words of the lamb
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Where industrialized nations were engaging in economic development with countries like China, Taiwan, Vietnam, and even Russia, now the world is preparing for war. Putin is even threatening to use nuclear weapons, and he may be that dumb if he becomes desperate and backed into a corner.
agree , and the land of Israel is right in the midst of all of it . Iran calls it ironically a right of fire surrounding Israel with all of its proxies like Hamas and hesbollah and huthis…isis ect those nations around Israel are totally set against her .
It seemed for a moment with the talk of the Abraham accords that there was going to be some sort of peace regarding Israel and some of the influential Arab nations but then before they really became inplimented all the wars and th wars of war in the. Isle east and ukrain and Taiwan North Korea ect began and sort of detailed it then oct 7s attack really basically ended the hopes of it given the Arab nations view of the Israel Palestinian conflict
nationa like quatar turkey Lebanon Yemen iraq Iran Syria ect they are all in agreement with Iran mostly and Iran is russias firm and dedicated ally along with China
So it all really sets itself up against Israel as Iran’s states goal for fourty or so years now that I’ve known and heard of is the end of the existence of Israel as a nation and people on the earth and the ushering in of some pagan diety they worship through Mohammed who thier fabkes tell us eas taken up to heaven from the Temple Mound in Jerusalem where now the Islamic mosque “ dome of the rock “ stands in honor of thier pagan so called diety
seems like an abomination to take the temple mound dedicated for the Israeli temple to honor and serve and meet with the one God through one preisthood . Tear it down and build a mosque honoring another man made pagan diety fable that states “God absolutely has no son “ on this pagan “temple “ standing still today after hundreds of years where jerusalems temple of the bible once stood ….
islam really has to be part of this because of its “anti christ “ foundations . In order to accept Islam you have to deny that Jesus is who the New Testament says he is and that he did what it said he did regarding Mankind’s sins and his resurrection from the dead and also his divine origins and eternal nature being the fulness of the diety bodily in the flesh
that is a heresy and blasphemy to Islam and denies everything they believe after the Torah of Moses.
goven also Islams forever stated war against the Jewish people and tbier religion. As well as against Christianity and our faith and the core of what we believe is blasphemy to Islam it seems exactly opposed to Christ .
its eye opening or was for me to read Islamic prophecy of the future and times. It is as if they are describing the last beasts riegn just before Christ returns and destroyed them
that last part lol they don’t talk about they have a whole other false idea about when Jesus returns lives as a married man and then dies…..but that nonsense doesn’t matter my point is that thier end times prophecy matches ours until Jesus return happens when it differs again
It sets them up to be tbat beast that’s ruling all the world and destroying the saints until the lord returns . Even calls for in those end days beheadings of Christian’s and Jews and any “ infidel “ who won’t immediately convert to Islam and worship thier pagan diety
my thoughts are that Islam absolutely has to be part of the end times if it’s anytime in the near future meaning next few hundred years or days who knows…but the thoughts of a foolish old man with too much time on his hands is only worth what it’s worth also lol
agree , and the land of Israel is right in the midst of all of it . Iran calls it ironically a right of fire surrounding Israel with all of its proxies like Hamas and hesbollah and huthis…isis ect those nations around Israel are totally set against her .
It seemed for a moment with the talk of the Abraham accords that there was going to be some sort of peace regarding Israel and some of the influential Arab nations but then before they really became inplimented all the wars and th wars of war in the. Isle east and ukrain and Taiwan North Korea ect began and sort of detailed it then oct 7s attack really basically ended the hopes of it given the Arab nations view of the Israel Palestinian conflict
nationa like quatar turkey Lebanon Yemen iraq Iran Syria ect they are all in agreement with Iran mostly and Iran is russias firm and dedicated ally along with China
So it all really sets itself up against Israel as Iran’s states goal for fourty or so years now that I’ve known and heard of is the end of the existence of Israel as a nation and people on the earth and the ushering in of some pagan diety they worship through Mohammed who thier fabkes tell us eas taken up to heaven from the Temple Mound in Jerusalem where now the Islamic mosque “ dome of the rock “ stands in honor of thier pagan so called diety
seems like an abomination to take the temple mound dedicated for the Israeli temple to honor and serve and meet with the one God through one preisthood . Tear it down and build a mosque honoring another man made pagan diety fable that states “God absolutely has no son “ on this pagan “temple “ standing still today after hundreds of years where jerusalems temple of the bible once stood ….
islam really has to be part of this because of its “anti christ “ foundations . In order to accept Islam you have to deny that Jesus is who the New Testament says he is and that he did what it said he did regarding Mankind’s sins and his resurrection from the dead and also his divine origins and eternal nature being the fulness of the diety bodily in the flesh
that is a heresy and blasphemy to Islam and denies everything they believe after the Torah of Moses.
goven also Islams forever stated war against the Jewish people and tbier religion. As well as against Christianity and our faith and the core of what we believe is blasphemy to Islam it seems exactly opposed to Christ .
its eye opening or was for me to read Islamic prophecy of the future and times. It is as if they are describing the last beasts riegn just before Christ returns and destroyed them
that last part lol they don’t talk about they have a whole other false idea about when Jesus returns lives as a married man and then dies…..but that nonsense doesn’t matter my point is that thier end times prophecy matches ours until Jesus return happens when it differs again
It sets them up to be tbat beast that’s ruling all the world and destroying the saints until the lord returns . Even calls for in those end days beheadings of Christian’s and Jews and any “ infidel “ who won’t immediately convert to Islam and worship thier pagan diety
my thoughts are that Islam absolutely has to be part of the end times if it’s anytime in the near future meaning next few hundred years or days who knows…but the thoughts of a foolish old man with too much time on his hands is only worth what it’s worth also lol
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Amen. "The father of lies" loves to twist the truth. Look at his twisted-technique that he tried on Jesus:
Matthew 4:5-7
New King James Version
5 Then the devil took Him up into the holy city, set Him on the pinnacle of the temple, 6 and said to Him, “If You are the Son of God, throw Yourself down. For it is written:
‘He shall give His angels charge over you,’
and,
‘In their hands they shall bear you up,
Lest you dash your foot against a stone.’ ”
7 Jesus said to him, “It is written again, ‘You shall not [a]tempt the Lord your God.’ ”
Satan quotes from Psalm 91 but takes these verses out of context to tempt Jesus, who would have none of it.
The false prophet ("distortion of Christian doctrine" taken to the next level with this joker) reminds me of the first of the four horsemen of the apocalypse described in Revelation 6:
Revelation 6:2
New King James Version
2 And I looked, and behold, a white horse. He who sat on it had a bow; and a crown was given to him, and he went out conquering and to conquer.
This is false religion. Note the white horse like Jesus will ride on when He returns (Rev. 19: 11-16), but Jesus will have "many crowns" and unlike the bow from the false Christ, the real Christ will have a "sharp sword that with it He should strike the nations" (v. 15).
Distortion of the gospel and true Christian doctrine has been around since the early Church, and it will be brought to climactic levels by the "imposter trinity" during the tribulation.
Matthew 4:5-7
New King James Version
5 Then the devil took Him up into the holy city, set Him on the pinnacle of the temple, 6 and said to Him, “If You are the Son of God, throw Yourself down. For it is written:
‘He shall give His angels charge over you,’
and,
‘In their hands they shall bear you up,
Lest you dash your foot against a stone.’ ”
7 Jesus said to him, “It is written again, ‘You shall not [a]tempt the Lord your God.’ ”
Satan quotes from Psalm 91 but takes these verses out of context to tempt Jesus, who would have none of it.
The false prophet ("distortion of Christian doctrine" taken to the next level with this joker) reminds me of the first of the four horsemen of the apocalypse described in Revelation 6:
Revelation 6:2
New King James Version
2 And I looked, and behold, a white horse. He who sat on it had a bow; and a crown was given to him, and he went out conquering and to conquer.
This is false religion. Note the white horse like Jesus will ride on when He returns (Rev. 19: 11-16), but Jesus will have "many crowns" and unlike the bow from the false Christ, the real Christ will have a "sharp sword that with it He should strike the nations" (v. 15).
Distortion of the gospel and true Christian doctrine has been around since the early Church, and it will be brought to climactic levels by the "imposter trinity" during the tribulation.
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Yes it is the same design as Eden
a man hears the truth God said
satan comes after and tries to deceive us
false doctrine has always been the issue for mankind
Don’t eat the fruit it certain death
you will not die it will make you wise as gods
the design creates an inherant state for mankind of a choice between life and death good and evil
a man hears the truth God said
satan comes after and tries to deceive us
false doctrine has always been the issue for mankind
Don’t eat the fruit it certain death
you will not die it will make you wise as gods
the design creates an inherant state for mankind of a choice between life and death good and evil
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The key to understand bible prophesy is to use the bible not man made theories or presumption..
Read the identifying marks of the first beast, and use Daniel, Rev, and history to identify it.
Is there any kingdoms or powers that fit the identifying marks? Yes
Don't guess look at the symbols...
1. The beast rose up out of the sea,
Rev 17:15 And he saith unto me, The waters which thou sawest, where the whore sitteth, are peoples, and multitudes, and nations, and tongues.
Daniel 7 reveals the answers for the next symbols... Compare Scripture with Scripture. The books of Daniel and Revelation explain each other. They fit together like a hand and glove.
2. And the beast was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion: and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority.
Daniel 7:2, 3: “Daniel spake and said, I saw in my vision by night, and, behold, the four winds of the heaven strove upon the great sea. And four great beasts came up from the sea, diverse one from another.”
The 4 beasts of Dan 7 symbolicly make up this power.
3. It had seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy.
“And the ten horns out of this kingdom are ten kings that shall arise.” Please notice that this is God’s interpretation of the ten horns on this animal in Dan 7. Rome would be divided into ten distinct areas. history shows this is what happened.
The little horn of Dan 7 is the same as the first beast of Rev. They are identified by much the same symbols.
The papacy came to power at exactly this time.
4. And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months.
The papacy ruled for 42 months, 1260 day, and they changed many of the bible teachings. Came to power in 538 and lost power in 1798.
5. And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death;
The papacy recieved a deadly wound but not killed when Nepolian took the pope captive in 1798
6. His deadly wound was healed:
It was in the year 1929 that Mussolini executed the Concordat of 1929 with the Pope, restoring the properties that had been taken away from the Church. At that time, the Pope was actually made king once more, and the Vatican City was set up as a political sovereign power.
7. and all the world wondered after the beast.
Just look at the pope today... the whole world bows down to him.
There is heaps more to see, but by seeing that the little horn and the first beast are the same is the key...
Read the identifying marks of the first beast, and use Daniel, Rev, and history to identify it.
Is there any kingdoms or powers that fit the identifying marks? Yes
Don't guess look at the symbols...
1. The beast rose up out of the sea,
Rev 17:15 And he saith unto me, The waters which thou sawest, where the whore sitteth, are peoples, and multitudes, and nations, and tongues.
Daniel 7 reveals the answers for the next symbols... Compare Scripture with Scripture. The books of Daniel and Revelation explain each other. They fit together like a hand and glove.
2. And the beast was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion: and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority.
Daniel 7:2, 3: “Daniel spake and said, I saw in my vision by night, and, behold, the four winds of the heaven strove upon the great sea. And four great beasts came up from the sea, diverse one from another.”
The 4 beasts of Dan 7 symbolicly make up this power.
3. It had seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy.
“And the ten horns out of this kingdom are ten kings that shall arise.” Please notice that this is God’s interpretation of the ten horns on this animal in Dan 7. Rome would be divided into ten distinct areas. history shows this is what happened.
The little horn of Dan 7 is the same as the first beast of Rev. They are identified by much the same symbols.
The papacy came to power at exactly this time.
4. And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months.
The papacy ruled for 42 months, 1260 day, and they changed many of the bible teachings. Came to power in 538 and lost power in 1798.
5. And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death;
The papacy recieved a deadly wound but not killed when Nepolian took the pope captive in 1798
6. His deadly wound was healed:
It was in the year 1929 that Mussolini executed the Concordat of 1929 with the Pope, restoring the properties that had been taken away from the Church. At that time, the Pope was actually made king once more, and the Vatican City was set up as a political sovereign power.
7. and all the world wondered after the beast.
Just look at the pope today... the whole world bows down to him.
There is heaps more to see, but by seeing that the little horn and the first beast are the same is the key...
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You are far from a "foolish old man" my friend although I do agree that you have too much time on your hands 
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What's sad about all of this is the Arab people are brothers to Israel and the Jews. They share a common heritage in their father, Abraham. This family feud has been going on between the two of them for 3000+ years.
"Watch the Middle East" is wise advice and look at what's brewing now. Iran and Israel may end up in all out war soon, and the United States, Britain, and Russia at least will be sucked into this as well.
Islam is certainly a distortion of true religion towards the shared God we worship as Christians, Jews, and Arabs. "Allah" has its roots in the Hebrew "El" for God--our shared God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. Of course, Muslims go off track from God's Word, the Holy Bible, and many Muslims view Jesus as a prophet at best. Some hardliners disregard Jesus altogether as you noted.
The most dangerous aspect of Islam is the extremist ideology it can generate. The brutality of the October 7th attacks are hard for the rational mind to comprehend, and that fruitcake leader of Hamas who brushed off the death of his children as martyrs illustrates the brainwashing by Satan that happens when we aren't tied to true religion through the power of the Holy Spirit and theology grounded in our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ.
I think you're on track that Israel could be the powder keg that could erupt the world into WW3 if we're not careful. The tribulation could follow after that, or who knows other than God when that will occur. I read a book of a respected Christian minister who believes Christ's return may not happen for hundreds or perhaps thousands of years. I sure hope he's wrong, and I would prefer Jesus to return ASAP to help us clean up the mess we've created on this beautiful planet He blessed us to live on.
Jesus is the only one who can heal the relationship between Abraham's children descended from Isaac and Ishmael. The pain and hatred is too deep seated currently, and this current war will only make the divide wider and deeper. The "two-state" solution is a pipe dream at best. The return of Jesus Christ is the ultimate answer!
.What's sad about all of this is the Arab people are brothers to Israel and the Jews. They share a common heritage in their father, Abraham. This family feud has been going on between the two of them for 3000+ years.
"Watch the Middle East" is wise advice and look at what's brewing now. Iran and Israel may end up in all out war soon, and the United States, Britain, and Russia at least will be sucked into this as well.
Islam is certainly a distortion of true religion towards the shared God we worship as Christians, Jews, and Arabs. "Allah" has its roots in the Hebrew "El" for God--our shared God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. Of course, Muslims go off track from God's Word, the Holy Bible, and many Muslims view Jesus as a prophet at best. Some hardliners disregard Jesus altogether as you noted.
The most dangerous aspect of Islam is the extremist ideology it can generate. The brutality of the October 7th attacks are hard for the rational mind to comprehend, and that fruitcake leader of Hamas who brushed off the death of his children as martyrs illustrates the brainwashing by Satan that happens when we aren't tied to true religion through the power of the Holy Spirit and theology grounded in our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ.
I think you're on track that Israel could be the powder keg that could erupt the world into WW3 if we're not careful. The tribulation could follow after that, or who knows other than God when that will occur. I read a book of a respected Christian minister who believes Christ's return may not happen for hundreds or perhaps thousands of years. I sure hope he's wrong, and I would prefer Jesus to return ASAP to help us clean up the mess we've created on this beautiful planet He blessed us to live on.
Jesus is the only one who can heal the relationship between Abraham's children descended from Isaac and Ishmael. The pain and hatred is too deep seated currently, and this current war will only make the divide wider and deeper. The "two-state" solution is a pipe dream at best. The return of Jesus Christ is the ultimate answer!
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You are far from a "foolish old man" my friend although I do agree that you have too much time on your hands .
What's sad about all of this is the Arab people are brothers to Israel and the Jews. They share a common heritage in their father, Abraham. This family feud has been going on between the two of them for 3000+ years.
"Watch the Middle East" is wise advice and look at what's brewing now. Iran and Israel may end up in all out war soon, and the United States, Britain, and Russia at least will be sucked into this as well.
Islam is certainly a distortion of true religion towards the shared God we worship as Christians, Jews, and Arabs. "Allah" has its roots in the Hebrew "El" for God--our shared God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. Of course, Muslims go off track from God's Word, the Holy Bible, and many Muslims view Jesus as a prophet at best. Some hardliners disregard Jesus altogether as you noted.
The most dangerous aspect of Islam is the extremist ideology it can generate. The brutality of the October 7th attacks are hard for the rational mind to comprehend, and that fruitcake leader of Hamas who brushed off the death of his children as martyrs illustrates the brainwashing by Satan that happens when we aren't tied to true religion through the power of the Holy Spirit and theology grounded in our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ.
I think you're on track that Israel could be the powder keg that could erupt the world into WW3 if we're not careful. The tribulation could follow after that, or who knows other than God when that will occur. I read a book of a respected Christian minister who believes Christ's return may not happen for hundreds or perhaps thousands of years. I sure hope he's wrong, and I would prefer Jesus to return ASAP to help us clean up the mess we've created on this beautiful planet He blessed us to live on.
Jesus is the only one who can heal the relationship between Abraham's children descended from Isaac and Ishmael. The pain and hatred is too deep seated currently, and this current war will only make the divide wider and deeper. The "two-state" solution is a pipe dream at best. The return of Jesus Christ is the ultimate answer!
.What's sad about all of this is the Arab people are brothers to Israel and the Jews. They share a common heritage in their father, Abraham. This family feud has been going on between the two of them for 3000+ years.
"Watch the Middle East" is wise advice and look at what's brewing now. Iran and Israel may end up in all out war soon, and the United States, Britain, and Russia at least will be sucked into this as well.
Islam is certainly a distortion of true religion towards the shared God we worship as Christians, Jews, and Arabs. "Allah" has its roots in the Hebrew "El" for God--our shared God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. Of course, Muslims go off track from God's Word, the Holy Bible, and many Muslims view Jesus as a prophet at best. Some hardliners disregard Jesus altogether as you noted.
The most dangerous aspect of Islam is the extremist ideology it can generate. The brutality of the October 7th attacks are hard for the rational mind to comprehend, and that fruitcake leader of Hamas who brushed off the death of his children as martyrs illustrates the brainwashing by Satan that happens when we aren't tied to true religion through the power of the Holy Spirit and theology grounded in our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ.
I think you're on track that Israel could be the powder keg that could erupt the world into WW3 if we're not careful. The tribulation could follow after that, or who knows other than God when that will occur. I read a book of a respected Christian minister who believes Christ's return may not happen for hundreds or perhaps thousands of years. I sure hope he's wrong, and I would prefer Jesus to return ASAP to help us clean up the mess we've created on this beautiful planet He blessed us to live on.
Jesus is the only one who can heal the relationship between Abraham's children descended from Isaac and Ishmael. The pain and hatred is too deep seated currently, and this current war will only make the divide wider and deeper. The "two-state" solution is a pipe dream at best. The return of Jesus Christ is the ultimate answer!
But amen he sure is the answer brother that’s a good understanding put simply
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Hey brother--I may be sparse in our ChristianChat community the next couple of weeks or so because one of my professor friends asked me to proofread a book he has been working on for years related to T.S. Eliot's famous poem "The Wasteland". One of his focuses ties into one of my favorite stories in the Bible, "The Road to Emmaus" in Luke 24: 13-35. I can't wait to dive into this brilliant Shakespearian scholar's work in the days ahead!
I'm not finished in this prophecy forum and will hop back in full force in the near future God willing!
Keep up the good fight, bro., and I will rejoin you soon with some fresh perspectives from a dear friend and past professor of mine!
SF
I'm not finished in this prophecy forum and will hop back in full force in the near future God willing!
Keep up the good fight, bro., and I will rejoin you soon with some fresh perspectives from a dear friend and past professor of mine!
SF
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