Who is to blame for the latest Isreal Palestine war really ?

[Fundaamental]

It was better than nice. It was something I had been praying over for some time. I believe God answered prayer. Do you believe God answers prayer? I really feel He did in this situation.

i believe he does answer prayers yes . But also I think God talks to us in prayer.

But for some reason he can't make us see eye to eye in this matter.

Im struggling to get my head around the fact that Isreal says they want there hostages free. But yet there still saying there going to wipe Hamas out even if the hostages are freed.

And yet even tho Isreal have said this hamas continue to release hostages.

I mean sniff sniff are you sure the two sides are not one

 

[ZNP]

A Historical perspective concerning who gets to decide who gets the Holy Land

I will bless those who bless you, and I will curse him who curses you

Some of the most catastrophic natural disasters to hit the US have exactly paralleled the US intervention into Israel.

1. October 30 1991 — George Bush opened the Madrid conference. 1st time there was a proposal to trade land for peace. On that same day a very rare storm formed off the coast of Nova Scotia called “The Perfect Storm” with 100 foot waves. Came down the coast of Maine and wiped out the first floor of the Kennebunkport home of George Bush sr.

2. August 23, 1992 — Madrid conference moves to Washington DC, attempt to crank up the peace talks (trade land for peace) on this same day Largest, worst and most expensive disaster to hit America up to that point, Hurricane Andrew hit Florida and left 180,000 people homeless. The hurricane lasted the same 4 days as the conference in Washington DC.

3. January 16, 1994 — President Clinton initiates a meeting with Syria in Geneva to talk about Israel giving up the Golan Heights. The meeting ended by 7:30pm in Geneva, that is 4:30AM on West Coast of US — powerful 6.9 Earthquake shook Northridge, the second most destructive disaster ever to hit the US, right after Hurricane Andrew.

4. March 1, 1997 — The US invited the most infamous terrorist alive at that time, Yasser Arafat, killed more children, hijacked more airplanes, by Madeleine Albright. One night during this visit there were 12 monster tornadoes on the ground at the same time sweeping through Tenn. During the same six weeks we had some of the worst tornadoes and floods. Greatest flooding of the Mississippi, when Arafat leaves the first week of April the rains stop, the flooding subsides and tornadoes stop.

5. January 21, 1998 — Prime Minister of Israel, Netanyahu meets with Clinton. He gives Netanyahu the cold shoulder, no state dinner, no public meetings, rebuffs him, etc. Same day the News media carries the Monica Lewinsky scandal for the first time.

6. September 27, 1998 — Madeleine Albright worked out the details where Israel would give up 13% of their land, one seventh of the country. On the same day Hurricane George slams into the Gulf coast. It hits the coast and just stalls and stays there flooding the coast. The next day they finalize the deal, Arafat addresses the UN, and Hurricane George revs up and causes a billion dollars worth of damage. The day Arafat leaves the US by airplane the hurricane dissipates.

7. October 15, 1998 — Clinton, Arafat and Netanyahu do a five day marathon to try and iron out the details to giving up one seventh of Israel for peace. On October 17 there is a huge storm that cuts across Texas, floods continue until October 22, one fourth of Texas is flooded.

8. May 3, 1999 — The day that Yasser Arafat says he will declare a Palestinian state with Jerusalem as its capital, on the same day as that declaration was said to take place we had the most powerful tornado storm system ever to be recorded swept across Oklahoma and Texas devastating Oklahoma City.

 

[ThereRoseaLamb]

i believe he does answer prayers yes . But also I think God talks to us in prayer.

But for some reason he can't make us see eye to eye in this matter.

Im struggling to get my head around the fact that Isreal says they want there hostages free. But yet there still saying there going to wipe Hamas out even if the hostages are freed.

And yet even tho Isreal have said this hamas continue to release hostages.

I mean sniff sniff are you sure the two sides are not one

I don't know how all this will end. All I can say is when I saw the 9yr old boy being pushed into the red cross van I cried. To know he will be home safe in his parents arms tonight is everything. More than one child was freed. And that caused dancing and singing in the streets. What a wonderful day for those families. But heartbreaking at the same time for those still waiting. Hamas picked a fight and there are consequences for terrorism.

 

[Fillan]

I don't know how all this will end.

Obadiah 1:18 "Jacob will be a fire
and Joseph a flame;
Esau will be stubble,
and they will set him on fire and destroy him.
There will be no survivors
from Esau.”
The Lord has spoken.
19 People from the Negev will occupy
the mountains of Esau,
and people from the foothills will possess
the land of the Philistines.
They will occupy the fields of Ephraim and Samaria,
and Benjamin will possess Gilead.

God Bless You

 

[HeIsHere]

Israel would like peace.

Israel propped up Hamas to avoid Palestine having its own state.

They only want their form of peace.

I wonder if they wanted peace when they attacked and killed Americans on the USS Liberty.

 

[HeIsHere]

I will bless those who bless you, and I will curse him who curses you

That was the biblical Jews not modern day Israel.

 

[HeIsHere]

Where hearing plenty of stories of war crimes now from Isreal,

There crimes were always hidden by the propaganda machine, but social media is exposing a great deal now.

The Nakba was their first war crime for which they have never been held to account.

 

[HeIsHere]

There is an updated story which explains more.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/11/report-two-car-bombers-killed-attempted-terrorist-attack/

Terrorism is huge allegation and no news source should make a blanket statement of terrorism until there has been a full investigation.

 

[Magenta]

Obadiah 1:18 "Jacob will be a fire
and Joseph a flame;
Esau will be stubble,
and they will set him on fire and destroy him.
There will be no survivors
from Esau.”
The Lord has spoken.
19 People from the Negev will occupy
the mountains of Esau,
and people from the foothills will possess
the land of the Philistines.
They will occupy the fields of Ephraim and Samaria,
and Benjamin will possess Gilead.

God Bless You

Obadiah 1:15
This is the only panel I have constructed using a verse from Obadiah. I just looked up
the predominate colours for Arabic flags and they are red, green, black, and yellow .

 

[ZNP]

That was the biblical Jews not modern day Israel.

I see you ignored the 8 modern day natural disasters that was part of that post. I consider those disasters which are officially referred to as acts of God as evidence that you are talking out of the wrong hole. I don't believe in coincidences, you obviously must believe in coincidences. You should be posting on "coincidencechat.com" rather than Christianchat.com

 

[HeIsHere]

I see you ignored the 8 modern day natural disasters that was part of that post. I consider those disasters which are officially referred to as acts of God as evidence that you are talking out of the wrong hole. I don't believe in coincidences, you obviously must believe in coincidences. You should be posting on "coincidencechat.com" rather than Christianchat.com

It is okay to extrapolate in math, I can see the basis for that.

 

[ThereRoseaLamb]

Israel propped up Hamas to avoid Palestine having its own state.

They only want their form of peace.

I wonder if they wanted peace when they attacked and killed Americans on the USS Liberty.

And this is how you all can tell when this is truly about racism and not "concern" over Palestinians. Every Anti-Semite I have ever talked to brings up this canard right here. It's a lie.

Israel apologized for the attack, saying that the USS Liberty had been attacked in error after being mistaken for an Egyptian ship.Both the Israeli and U.S. governments conducted inquiries and issued reports that concluded the attack was a mistake due to Israeli confusion about the ship's identity.

In May 1968, the Israeli government paid US$3.32 million (equivalent to US$28 million in 2022) to the U.S. government in compensation for the families of the 34 men killed in the attack. In March 1969, Israel paid a further $3.57 million ($28.5 million in 2022) to the men who had been wounded. In December 1980, it agreed to pay $6 million ($21.3 million in 2022) as the final settlement for material damage to the ship plus 13 years of interest.

 

[ZNP]

It is okay to extrapolate in math, I can see the basis for that.

You have 0 credibility with me. I asked you for a link to a newspaper story when you said that "the rising of the beast system" was a newspaper prophecy. You have still not provided it and I am not interested in anything you have to say on this matter till I see that link.

So provide a link to a credible Bible expositor as to why you think with God His promises are yay and nay rather than "yes and amen". I would like to know the source of this error. Thanks

 

[HeIsHere]

You have 0 credibility with me.

I am fine with that.
Trying to fit what Jesus told His disciples very plainly into modern day world events is newspaper eschatology cause His disciples are dead now.

Seems pretty easy to understand to me.

 

[HeIsHere]

It really sad that someone's humanity is so limited that only the survival of one group matters and the persecution of the other is boring.

 

[ThereRoseaLamb]

It really sad that someone's humanity is so limited that only the survival of one group matters and the persecution of the other is boring.

Which no one here ever said BTW smh

 

[ZNP]

Which no one here ever said BTW smh

No one except for HeIsHere

 

[Fundaamental]

There crimes were always hidden by the propaganda machine, but social media is exposing a great deal now.

The Nakba was their first war crime for which they have never been held to account.

it's beyond me how so many people would justify what Isreal has done to Gazza in such a short space of time,

 

[Fundaamental]

Mean while the BBC continue to defend the Palestinian people, which by the way is on the back end of many many complaints about Isreal.

Listen to the total bullshit that Isreal are considerate of Palestinians people

 

[Fundaamental]

I don't know how all this will end. All I can say is when I saw the 9yr old boy being pushed into the red cross van I cried. To know he will be home safe in his parents arms tonight is everything. More than one child was freed. And that caused dancing and singing in the streets. What a wonderful day for those families. But heartbreaking at the same time for those still waiting. Hamas picked a fight and there are consequences for terrorism.

there more to it than meets the eye,

For one we don't know exactly if hamas leaders ordered the strike on Isreal in the first place.

Whether or with in the hamas group there is a radical section that carry out theese attacks without the permission of the hamas politicians,

We also don't know if hamas politicians are the ones convincing the radical side of there group to hand them back over to Isreal,