RDBD said:
wow ... what a lie from the pit ... I have
never said anything close to what you claim.
You havent said that directly, but its cloaked in religious garb
You just like to make up stuff.
but whenever one teaches that folk go to hell for their sins in unbelief, even after Christ has shed His Precious Blood for them, in essence they are saying His Blood was worthless.
No, they aren't sayiing or even implying that. Your problem is your Calvinist bias, which is unbiblical. Christ died for EVERYONE so that "whoEVER" believes will be saved.
What is obvious is that IF Christ didn't die for someone, they COULDN'T be saved. God COULDN'T save them. So Christ HAD TO die for everyone because His Father WANTS ALL MEN TO BE SAVED AND COME TO THE KNOWLEDGE OF THE TRUTH.
1 Tim 2:3-6
3 This is good, and pleases God our Savior,
4 who wants all people to be saved and to come to a knowledge of the truth.
5 For there is one God and one mediator between God and mankind, the man Christ Jesus,
6 who gave himself as a ransom for all people. This has now been witnessed to at the proper time.
This passage REFUTES Calvinism and its unbiblcal claims.
Because Jesus Blood actually saves them it was shed for. Listen to the saved Rev 5:9
9 And they sung a new song, saying, Thou art worthy to take the book, and to open the seals thereof: for thou wast slain, and hast redeemed us to God by thy blood out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation;
Whats their testimony ? How were they redeemed unto God ?
Since the Bible clearly and plainly SAYS that Christ died for all, which means everyone without exception, Calvinism simply FAILS to understand what "redeemed" means. It means "to PURCHASE".
This is what Christ did on the cross. He PURCHASED the gift of eternal life for EVERYONE. But that doesn't explain HOW a person RECEIVES the FREE GIFT of eternal life.
There are many verses that tell us PLAINLY how to possess the gift of eternal life.
John 3:15,16
15 that everyone who believes may have eternal life in him.”
16 For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.
John 5:24 - “Very truly I tell you,
whoever hears my word and believes him who sent me has eternal life and will not be judged but has crossed over from death to life.
John 6-
40 For my Father’s will is that everyone who looks to the Son and believes in him shall have eternal life, and I will raise them up at the last day.”
47 Very truly I tell you, the one who believes has eternal life.
John 10:28 - I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; no one will snatch them out of my hand.
And we also have this very CLEAR verse about how to be saved, and it isn't by election.
1 Cor 1:21 - For since in the wisdom of God the world through its wisdom did not know him,
God was pleased through the foolishness of what was preached
to save those who believe.
God was pleased to save those who believe. Couldn't be any more clear. So Calvinist have no excuse for their very unbiblical claims.
God's plan from the beginning was to save those who respond in TRUST to His promise of salvation.
Titus 2:11 - For the grace of God has appeared that offers salvation to all people.
So, God's GRACE offers salvation to everyone.