Who will Win

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kaylagrl

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So, in my opinion, it is not that complicated why he didn't get more votes.


If you lived in America, you would understand. He had rallies of 50 thousand people. One place only 200 people were allowed in and outside were 20-30 thousand. People were standing in line for hours, the lines were miles long. Why is that significant? Because the same thing happened in 2016 where they said he was losing by the same margins. Biden has run three times for president and didn't even show on the meter his votes were so low. Now they're trying to tell us that he beat not only Trump but Obama's election, even though blacks supported Trump in higher numbers. Then he has a VP, who will actually be running the country, who could get 2% support when she ran herself. It doesn't take a lawyer to see that massive fraud has been committed. They have found discarded votes, they won't let poll watchers in, people have said they received 20 ballots. See if the Dems had been smart and cheated just a little, then they would have gotten away with it. But they had to go big and here we are. There is no way on earth the Joe Biden out preformed Obama. Obama wasn't my cup of tea, but he was the first black president and people were excited to vote for him. He also had huge crowds. There is no way 1% Biden, running three times did better than Obama. It's fraud.
 
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I think Trump's performance on COVID is the reason why he didn't get more votes, especially the undecided vote. He downplayed the virus, which is out of sync with what we see in the news about people dying (also many of us know people who got really sick or even directly knew of people dying of COVID). For instance, my co-worker's father died from COVID, someone's grandma at church died of COVID, and I know several people who got pretty sick from COVID. Also, he showed no sympathy towards people suffering from COVID, even after getting the virus. If he thinks the virus is no big deal, he should not have taken the heavy drugs (he didn't even take HCQ which he promoted) (people notice small things like this). So, I think it comes down to COVID especially with the undecided or people in the moderate camp. I'm not saying he should have shut down the economy, but if he showed more empathy or stressed wearing masks more, etc., he could have had more votes and he wouldn't be in this situation.
More like "how do you overcome the fake news when pple like you are standing in line to drink it in and belive it"
America is only as good as it's citizens.
An election is an IQ test.

The scope of communist buffoonery and satanic corruption in the democratic party is magnificently surpassed by the low IQ sheeple that promote that sick bunch.

Anyone pitching their tent with Harris,AOC, Pelosi human refuse is going over the cliff with them.
Half the nation has failed a simple IQ test.
 
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kaylagrl

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More like "how do you overcome the fake news when pple like you are standing in line to drink it in and belive it"
America is only as good as it's citizens.
An election is an IQ test.

The scope of communist buffoonery and satanic corruption in the democratic party is magnificently surpassed by the low IQ sheeple that promote that sick bunch.

Anyone pitching their tent with Harris,AOC, Pelosi human refuse is going over the cliff with them.
Half the nation has failed a simple IQ test.

I was feeling the same way yesterday. But as I'm listening and watching I'm seeing that these idiots thought they could go big with fraud and no one was going to catch it. Instead of hiding it and doing a little here and there these genius's decided to go big. Of course that hits all the alarm bells. Biden couldn't get 130 people in cars to come to his rallies, neither could Obama to support him, Harris had zip. But Trump had 30- 50 thousand people at every single rally. People had car rallies all over the country, miles long. Now they are trying to tell us that no one voted Trump, and 1% Joe on his third try won bigger than Obama, the first black president. Yeah, I was born in the morning, but it wasn't yesterday morning. The swamp is trying with all it's might. I'm praying the Lord will break this evil stronghold and reveal their plans and show their evil deeds.
 

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If Biden wins well I see glimpses of light regardless. I personally at the moment feel a great deal of fraud was at play. We already see it. But conservatives hold the Senate and gained seats in the house which means they may can flip the house in 2 years and continue to hold the Senate. They will be in continue damage control for thd next 4 years. Also remember the 200+ and 3 conservative judges put into the lower and higher courts. This will hopefully also stop illegal and unconstitutional decisions.

Then the new Republican Party created by Trump will be even more fired up except more with anger and maybe fear. It will push greater candidates to run for office. Now with the fight and backbone of Trump, with the conservative ideas, and probably a better demeanor than Trump.

Of course, this is only if we survive the tax spikes, economy failure, 2 trillion dollar green new deal, and the still possible civil unrest if Biden/Harris goes after people's guns or freedoms.
 

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The whole wasted vote theory is garbage. It always assumes the vote would have gone for your candidate, no matter who is making the argument. It’s such poor logic that just goes to show why you didn’t deserve the vote in the first place. Both sides need to stop blaming third party candidates for “cutting into their votes” and take a look at the type of people they put on the ballots! So tired of that excuse. If your a Dem or Rep, you're not entitled to my vote.
 

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I was feeling the same way yesterday. But as I'm listening and watching I'm seeing that these idiots thought they could go big with fraud and no one was going to catch it. Instead of hiding it and doing a little here and there these genius's decided to go big. Of course that hits all the alarm bells. Biden couldn't get 130 people in cars to come to his rallies, neither could Obama to support him, Harris had zip. But Trump had 30- 50 thousand people at every single rally. People had car rallies all over the country, miles long. Now they are trying to tell us that no one voted Trump, and 1% Joe on his third try won bigger than Obama, the first black president. Yeah, I was born in the morning, but it wasn't yesterday morning. The swamp is trying with all it's might. I'm praying the Lord will break this evil stronghold and reveal their plans and show their evil deeds.
One possible explanation is that more people vote for Trump because they love him and more people vote for Biden because they HATE Trump. In other words, the masses can refuse to go to a Biden rally because they don't love him in the way Trump supporters love Trump, but their dislike for Trump compels them to vote for Biden. It's sort of how many of you believe in "voting for the lesser evil", only done on the opposite side of the aisle.
 

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Personally, I only vote for someone if I believe in them. I don't waste my vote to vote against someone else because it makes the person I champion become irrelevant. Not voting for the candidate you want in office is the actual waste of a vote.
 

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Personally, I only vote for someone if I believe in them. I don't waste my vote to vote against someone else because it makes the person I champion become irrelevant. Not voting for the candidate you want in office is the actual waste of a vote.
Exactly, I said it many times. I would rather vote for someone I like and support thank vote for someone I don't like just to have someone else I don't like lose. That is a wasted vote and I don't feel right about that. Would rather vote with my conscious than to be pressured to vote for the two top candidates the media always pushes.
 
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kaylagrl

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One possible explanation is that more people vote for Trump because they love him and more people vote for Biden because they HATE Trump. In other words, the masses can refuse to go to a Biden rally because they don't love him in the way Trump supporters love Trump, but their dislike for Trump compels them to vote for Biden. It's sort of how many of you believe in "voting for the lesser evil", only done on the opposite side of the aisle.

Yes, certainly some of that did happen. I know the hatred of Trump very well. But not to this degree.
 

Smoke

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Yes, certainly some of that did happen. I know the hatred of Trump very well. But not to this degree.
I sort of have the opposite thinking honestly. I'm shocked that as many people love Trump and are still conservative. I don't listen to the mainstream media intentionally, but it's force-fed down my throat almost every day. I am pleasantly surprised Trump did as well as he did in this election (even if he does lose). If I was an alien from another planet and watched the "news" networks, I would think 3/4 of the nation wanted Trump dead. In actuality, 48% want him for another 4 years.

The media tricked me in 2016 with their polls, but come 2020, I didn't think Trump was going to lose by 10%+ like the polls were being suggested, but I didn't think he had a good shot either. Even now, there is a pathway to victory for him, albeit, it's looking rather narrow. I thought the Democrats had a 50-50 chance of taking the Senate, but that isn't happening. It's not so bad being wrong sometimes. lol

No one should ever take political polls seriously anymore. What I worry about is who carries the torch in 2024? I don't see any Republican with the drive and energy as Trump. I don't see anyone who can handle the media the way he does. I love me some Rand Paul, but he is far too chill to ever take the torch and deal with the endless assault from the media. I don't see Mike Pence being the front man either. He is/was the perfect running mate for Trump. Where does the Republican party go from here?
 
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Personally, I only vote for someone if I believe in them. I don't waste my vote to vote against someone else because it makes the person I champion become irrelevant. Not voting for the candidate you want in office is the actual waste of a vote.
Reading your comment,it seems you didn't vote.

Let's see,one guy is of the devil and wants millions of babies killed.
They other guy that can prevent it is off the table because you have no spark with him personally.

So you indirectly support and allow the baby killer devil man to destroy your country.

Hmmmmm
 

Socreta93

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Reading your comment,it seems you didn't vote.

Let's see,one guy is of the devil and wants millions of babies killed.
They other guy that can prevent it is off the table because you have no spark with him personally.

So you indirectly support and allow the baby killer devil man to destroy your country.

Hmmmmm
You know there were more options right? You're allowed to vote for whoever you please, not just the two candidates the media force feeds down your throat. I hate this "lesser of two evils" mentality and that no other candidate existed. I voted third party, there is nothing wrong with that.
 

Smoke

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Reading your comment,it seems you didn't vote.

Let's see,one guy is of the devil and wants millions of babies killed.
They other guy that can prevent it is off the table because you have no spark with him personally.

So you indirectly support and allow the baby killer devil man to destroy your country.

Hmmmmm
You have no idea who I voted for or if I even voted. The only thing you know for certain is that if I voted, I voted for someone I believe in. I can't recall a time I have ever voted straight ticket either. I am not a Republican, but I have voted for the ones I believed in. I've never voted for a Democrat, but that isn't to say I wouldn't ever. It just depends on if I believe in the candidate.

Keep assuming... (by the way, I did vote)

I mean, I'm curious how many of you voted for John McCain. I never believed in him and I never voted for him. If you want to blame me for Obama winning, blame yourselves for not electing better candidates in the Republican primary. lol
 
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Trump lost some votes because of his COVID-19 performance. That's a fact. The undecided/moderate camp care less about policy and more about persona. Had Trump done just one simple thing, that is to denounce people who thought COVID is a hoax, I'm certain he would have gotten more votes.

I agree there seems to be some indication of fraud (such as the ballot drops in the wee hours in Wisconsin and Michigan). However, squabbling over the fraudulent votes, which may not make a difference in the end, could have been entirely avoided if Trump did not downplay the seriousness of the virus.
 

soggykitten

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It requires an amendment to the constitution or the supreme court to make a majority decision. A president cannot write an executive order and amend the constitutional rights that protect women and their right to privacy as the law stands now.
Unless things have changed since I lived in America.
The carrot and stick idiom pictured in their post should have forewarned you as to their motives for posting that question. ;)
No, it hasn't changed. You're right.
Imagine though if a president could amend peoples Constitutional rights simply using an Executive Order. o_O
Especially when it appears a demented dictator wannabe and an avowed Communist could take our White house from us.
 

soggykitten

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I dare not say what is truly in my heart and mind right now. America has been handed over to communists. There will be no reckoning. They have brought America to it's knees, this election was her last dying breath, reaching out in hope. And we sat back and watched her die, in the gutter, like a dog. America is gone. How long before people wake up and see it, I do not know. The city on a hill has gone dark, her light shines no more. And we sat on our hands and let it happen. Prepare the coffin, say a funeral dirge, she is gone.
You'll be moving then? When? What country will you apply to for citizenship?
And you condemn people here for judging that nonsense?
American's don't think that way.
 

soggykitten

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as you seem determined to put ashes on your head and sit at the gates, I won't give a big explanation...although one can certainly be found in scritpure

so the short answer is NO HE HAS NOT TAKEN HIS HAND OFF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, but this country is not the center of the universe that some people seem to think it is

not hope in God? :cautious:

you were expecting something you did not get. funny. I got exactly what I saw was coming.
"Not hope in God", should tell you who you're dealing with.
American citizens don't spout that garbage. Foreigners who hate America and pose as American's do.
 
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