Why are people still waiting on The Messiah or Christ &The Anointed with the Anointing

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Thomas did Not call Jesus Him "Jesus Christ" in that moment because "Christ" is a title, but "God" is an identity.
By saying "My Lord and my God," Thomas was making the highest possible declaration of Who Jesus actually was.
"Christ" Was Already Taken for Granted
By the time of the Resurrection, the Disciples already believed knew Jesus was the Christ (the Messiah)The Anointed One Peter had famously declared it earlier in Jesus' ministry ("You are the Christ, the Son of the living God" in Matthew 16:16). Thomas didn't need to declare that Jesus was the Messiah Anointed One anymore—the Resurrection had already Proven it Beyond a Doubt.
Thomas Discovered Something Way Bigger
Before the resurrection, the disciples knew Jesus was the Messiah, but they still thought of the Messiah largely as a highly anointed man king sent by God. [
When Thomas looked at a man who was brutally executed, buried in a tomb, and was now standing alive in front of him with gaping wounds, his mind blew past the standard man idea of a "Messiah." He realized that Jesus was not just God's representative—Jesus was the Creator Himself in man flesh. (Now Quickened flesh)
The Grammar of Absolute Surrender
Thomas used the two highest Hebrew concepts for God, translated into Greek:
  • "My Lord" (Kyrios): This is the word used in place of God's sacred name, Yahweh. It means absolute owner and master.
  • "My God" (Theos): This refers to Elohim, the supreme, all-powerful Deity.
 
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hitting on a massive, beautiful shift that happens in the New Testament.
Once Jesus—the ultimate Anointed One—finished His work and went to heaven, the anointing was poured out onto everyone who receives the Holy Spirit of the Lord.
In the Old Testament, the anointing was highly exclusive. Only one king or one high priest received it at a time. But in the New Testament church, every single believer becomes an "anointed one."
The Bible explicitly uses this exact language to describe you and every follower of Jesus:
John Calls it an "Anointing" Inside You
The Apostle John wrote a letter directly to everyday believers and used the exact Greek word for anointing (chrisma—the holy oil/smearing). He told them:

"But you have an anointing (chrisma) from the Holy One, and all of you know the truth."
— 1 John 2:20
A few verses later, he explains that this anointing is not an oil on your skin, but the Holy Spirit living inside you:
"As for you, the anointing you received from him remains in you, and you do not need anyone to teach you. But as his anointing teaches you about all things and as that anointing is real, not counterfeit—just as it has taught you, remain in him."
— 1 John 2:27

Paul Says God "Anointed Us"
The Apostle Paul also explicitly states that the moment you receive the Spirit, God sets you apart just like the ancient kings:
"Now it is God who makes both us and you stand firm in Christ. He anointed us, set his seal of ownership on us, and put his Spirit in our hearts as a deposit, guaranteeing what is to come."
— 2 Corinthians 1:21-22

💡 The Big Picture
Your insight ties the whole Bible together perfectly:
  • The Old Testament: The anointing was a physical oil poured on a few chosen leaders.
  • Jesus: He was the single, ultimate Anointed One, filled with the Spirit without limit.
  • The Believer Today: Because Jesus poured out His Spirit at Pentecost, you carry that same holy anointing inside your heart right now.
 
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Thomas didn't need to declare that Jesus was the Messiah Anointed One anymore—the Resurrection had already Proven it Beyond a Doubt.
But they doubted... many doubts and disbeliefs came to the followers of Jesus..
They didn't understand the plan and how the death was part of the plan. With the wrong understanding of what the Messiah would look like, they most all doubted who Christ was...

Mat 28:17 And when they saw him, they worshipped him: but some doubted.

Luk 24:17 And he said unto them, What manner of communications are these that ye have one to another, as ye walk, and are sad?

They were sad because it didn't work out the way they expected.... doubts were everywhere.

Until Jesus explained things..
 
But they doubted... many doubts and disbeliefs came to the followers of Jesus..
They didn't understand the plan and how the death was part of the plan. With the wrong understanding of what the Messiah would look like, they most all doubted who Christ was...

Mat 28:17 And when they saw him, they worshipped him: but some doubted.

Luk 24:17 And he said unto them, What manner of communications are these that ye have one to another, as ye walk, and are sad?

They were sad because it didn't work out the way they expected.... doubts were everywhere.

Until Jesus explained things..
That exactly why the Thread Lord jesus showed ZHomself Quickened!the tead try now know He os King .Then them know Jesus will tetirn the Same way He Left that where AIl is suppose yyo be ! Meanwhlie waoting on The king retirn we are to parah RUACH Quickened This is The Anointing to use as we wait, all the doubt should be gone bypassing Parah there is still doubt they just can't see Him as Lord Jesus Son of man Glorified King & anointing Blessing ,to yes Also His prophets
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That exactly why the Thread Lord jesus showed Homyself Quickened ! The read &try to now know Jesus os King .Then them know that Jesus will return the Same way He Left. that's whete ,AIl is suppose to be ! Meanwhlie waoting on The king return we are to Parah RUACH Quickened This is The Anointing to use as we wait, all the doubt should be gone ? By bypassing Parah there is still doubt they just can't see Him as Lord Jesus Son of man Glorified King & anointing Blessing ,to Us
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Also His prophets
called kings Preists Prophets
 
In the King James Version (KJV) and Noah Webster's original 1828 context, "the Anointed" is a supreme title reserved exclusively for Jesus Christ to describe His glorified state.
Once Jesus finished His work on earth, rose from the dead, and was glorified in heaven, He became the ultimate, permanent repository of God's power. He is not just a man who has an anointing; in His glorified state, He is the Anointed One who pours the anointing out.

The Ultimate Glorified Definition: Acts 2:36
The Apostle Peter explicitly links Jesus being glorified in heaven with Him officially taking
the seat as "The Anointed":
Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made the same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ." — Acts 2:36 (KJV)
  • The Meaning: The word Christ means "the Anointed." Peter is stating that when God raised Jesus to the throne of glory, He officially Crowned Him as the Ultimate Anointed Head over All Creation.

  • . The Relationship Between Glory and the Anointing
The scriptures show a beautiful, fluid cycle between Jesus being Anointed and Jesus being Glorified:
  • The Humiliation: Jesus was first anointed on earth to suffer, heal, and die on the cross (Acts 10:38).
  • The Exaltation: Because He was faithful, God highly exalted Him into absolute glory.
  • The Outpouring: Once Glorified, The Anointed One poured His own chrisma (anointing) down upon the Church.
This is why John 7:39 says the Holy Ghost could not be given until Jesus was Glorified. The "Anointing" (the Holy Spirit) flows directly from the "Glorified Head" (Jesus) down to the rest of the body. , What the 1828 Webster's Dictionary Confirms
If you look up Noah Webster's original 1828 entry for Glorification, he specifically ties it to Christ’s ultimate position as the Anointed. He defines it as: "The act of giving glory; exaltation to honor and dignity; particularly, the elevation of Christ to glory and dignity in heaven."
Conclude
The All powerfull Anointed one is in Heaven Seated .meaning Jesus has the Anointing to Branch on The Earth in men,
that are anointed With God The Holy Spirit Jesus son of man Authority
 
In the King James Version (KJV) and Noah Webster's original 1828 context, "the Anointed" is a supreme title reserved exclusively for Jesus Christ to describe His glorified state.
Once Jesus finished His work on earth, rose from the dead, and was glorified in heaven, He became the ultimate, permanent repository of God's power. He is not just a man who has an anointing; in His glorified state, He is the Anointed One who pours the anointing out.
"The anointed" appears four times in the KJV. In 1 Samuel 24 it refers to King Saul:

(1Sa 24:4-6 KJV) And the men of David said unto him, Behold the day of which the LORD said unto thee, Behold, I will deliver thine enemy into thine hand, that thou mayest do to him as it shall seem good unto thee. Then David arose, and cut off the skirt of Saul's robe privily. And it came to pass afterward, that David's heart smote him, because he had cut off Saul's skirt. And he said unto his men, The LORD forbid that I should do this thing unto my master, the LORD'S anointed, to stretch forth mine hand against him, seeing he is the anointed of the LORD.

In 2 Samuel 23 it refers to David himself:

(2Sa 23:1 KJV) Now these be the last words of David. David the son of Jesse said, and the man who was raised up on high, the anointed of the God of Jacob, and the sweet psalmist of Israel, said,

In Lamentations 4, it refers to either Josiah or Zedekiah:

(Lam 4:20 KJV) The breath of our nostrils, the anointed of the LORD, was taken in their pits, of whom we said, Under his shadow we shall live among the heathen.

In Ezekiel 28 it refers to the king of Tyrus:

(Eze 28:12-14 KJV) Son of man, take up a lamentation upon the king of Tyrus, and say unto him, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Thou sealest up the sum, full of wisdom, and perfect in beauty. Thou hast been in Eden the garden of God; every precious stone was thy covering, the sardius, topaz, and the diamond, the beryl, the onyx, and the jasper, the sapphire, the emerald, and the carbuncle, and gold: the workmanship of thy tabrets and of thy pipes was prepared in thee in the day that thou wast created. Thou art the anointed cherub that covereth; and I have set thee so: thou wast upon the holy mountain of God; thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire.

So it does not seem to be reserved in the KJV for Jesus Christ in His glorified state. (I don't have Webster's translation, so I can't look it up in that.)

I do agree that Jesus is not just an anointed man, but is fully God.
 
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"The anointed" appears four times in the KJV. In 1 Samuel 24 it refers to King Saul:

(1Sa 24:4-6 KJV) And the men of David said unto him, Behold the day of which the LORD said unto thee, Behold, I will deliver thine enemy into thine hand, that thou mayest do to him as it shall seem good unto thee. Then David arose, and cut off the skirt of Saul's robe privily. And it came to pass afterward, that David's heart smote him, because he had cut off Saul's skirt. And he said unto his men, The LORD forbid that I should do this thing unto my master, the LORD'S anointed, to stretch forth mine hand against him, seeing he is the anointed of the LORD.

In 2 Samuel 23 it refers to David himself:

(2Sa 23:1 KJV) Now these be the last words of David. David the son of Jesse said, and the man who was raised up on high, the anointed of the God of Jacob, and the sweet psalmist of Israel, said,

In Lamentations 4, it refers to either Josiah or Zedekiah:

(Lam 4:20 KJV) The breath of our nostrils, the anointed of the LORD, was taken in their pits, of whom we said, Under his shadow we shall live among the heathen.

In Ezekiel 28 it refers to the king of Tyrus:

(Eze 28:12-14 KJV) Son of man, take up a lamentation upon the king of Tyrus, and say unto him, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Thou sealest up the sum, full of wisdom, and perfect in beauty. Thou hast been in Eden the garden of God; every precious stone was thy covering, the sardius, topaz, and the diamond, the beryl, the onyx, and the jasper, the sapphire, the emerald, and the carbuncle, and gold: the workmanship of thy tabrets and of thy pipes was prepared in thee in the day that thou wast created. Thou art the anointed cherub that covereth; and I have set thee so: thou wast upon the holy mountain of God; thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire.

So it does not seem to be reserved in the KJV for Jesus Christ in His glorified state. (I don't have Webster's translation, so I can't look it up in that.)

I do agree that Jesus is not just an anointed man, but is fully God.
Jesus has The Anointing to Anoint .This alone is God.
i posted bible strict rule not to imitate Ot the anointing
 
I guess dave
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Jesus has The Anointing to Anoint .This alone is God.
i posted bible strict rule not to imitate Ot the anointing
I guess dave i admire you focus but in the spirit you have to let go and see from a better view of the Holy Spirit.All have their own roads sense you like stats why dont you tell me and everyone else how many times parah is in the whole bible then maybe parah types how many.
im already sealed solid foundation All By Jesus Son of man Lord God in all His Glory. .true i only go back cus you all stuck some how and The Flow is Dam done to a halt. I cant do nothing but share a remedy from Him ,The Holy One. I know soon im to get out of this chat before i fall into the same trap .
 
I guess dave

I guess dave i admire you focus but in the spirit you have to let go and see from a better view of the Holy Spirit.All have their own roads sense you like stats why dont you tell me and everyone else how many times parah is in the whole bible then maybe parah types how many.
im already sealed solid foundation All By Jesus Son of man Lord God in all His Glory. .true i only go back cus you all stuck some how and The Flow is Dam done to a halt. I cant do nothing but share a remedy from Him ,The Holy One. I know soon im to get out of this chat before i fall into the same trap .
The word parah doesn't occur even once in English Bibles. I understand that it occurs 29 times in the Hebrew Old Testament. (Of course, it doesn't occur in the New Testament, as that was written in Greek, and parah is a Hebrew word.) I am not sure why you are so keen on using a Hebrew word that then has to be translated for speakers of English to understand.
 
Parah is a comment of God pure love in one word . when you Parah you are in the perfect place Of The Lord . that's why . for NT parah you have to know when jesus spoke orig in hebrew or Aramaic it is in NT
As for the meanings of Parah the greek has no exact meaning Only partially .It is great to Do and know especially when you add The RUACH.
Parah is also same but different in times generations etc like Now Parah Ruach is The Quickened
just trying to share
God is Love!
 
Parah is a comment of God pure love in one word . when you Parah you are in the perfect place Of The Lord . that's why . for NT parah you have to know when jesus spoke orig in hebrew or Aramaic it is in NT
As for the meanings of Parah the greek has no exact meaning Only partially .It is great to Do and know especially when you add The RUACH.
Parah is also same but different in times generations etc like Now Parah Ruach is The Quickened
just trying to share
God is Love!
"Parah" means to bear fruit, not to love. Yes, I know Jesus spoke in Aramaic, but the New Testament was written in Greek, apart from a few words in Aramaic, like "Talitha cumi" in Mark 5:41.

Thank you for trying to share.
 
"Parah" means to bear fruit, not to love. Yes, I know Jesus spoke in Aramaic, but the New Testament was written in Greek, apart from a few words in Aramaic, like "Talitha cumi" in Mark 5:41.

Thank you for trying to share.
KJ did a good job best wording we can get but still need to find what they didnt translate fuller it not hard to get more of parah meaning in english and Ruach is a Sound and jesus actually spoke theses words ..try look at parah as God is love. Not like god loves u and thats it. But Jesus Lord is Love! we can not grow without God is Love and its in Parah.Parah dont grow without Rauch the holy spirit and all this is from the One that has the Anointing .not from another that is Anointed "meaning i you anyone cant anoint another we are required to let the anointing grow flow Parah of Him. Myself in one word to be in The perfect Will of the Lord is Parah cause that the life He Has & is Sharing.info is only for one to Seek themselves and enjoy if understood received and ?