Why do Jesus alllow this?

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infinitekhanol said:
As per their teachings, I still say my understanding of them is far different from what you and kaylagrl seem to believe.

As per the heretics, I follow Paul to say, as written in Philippians 3:13, - this one thing I do, forgetting those things which are behind and reaching forth unto those things which are before. We cannot continue to hold on to the past or else we will miss the mark.These things happened far way back and I understand the Popes have apologised for the sins of their past. Those involved are far gone and are of blessed memory. We should allow God to judge. Ours is to forgive. That is where I stand.
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Your understanding is either very immature or you are a new Christian. The Muslim religion is anti-Christ, it is a false religion and their god has nothing to go with Almighty God. Any "religion" that denies the deity of Christ is false. That's not opinion, that is the Word of God. And you twisting a random verse out of context doesn't change the truth of the Word. Period.
 
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kaylagrl said:
Your understanding is either very immature or you are a new Christian. The Muslim religion is anti-Christ, it is a false religion and their god has nothing to go with Almighty God. Any "religion" that denies the deity of Christ is false. That's not opinion, that is the Word of God. And you twisting a random verse out of context doesn't change the truth of the Word. Period.
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The word of God is truth and remains truth forevermore. What bothers me is your interpretation of the word. You say Rcc is also evil and some other Christian denominations are evil too. It seems any one that does not agree with your personal interpretation of the scripture is evil. If men were God!!
 
bud62 said:
IF you don't believe this , LOOK A JOB, HE was A perfect MAN in HIS DAY , THE BIBLE SAYS
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Job was "tested" but look at what Abba said to the Enemy:

Job 1:12 And the LORD said unto Satan, Behold, all that he hath is in thy power; only upon himself put not forth thine hand. So Satan went forth from the presence of the LORD.

Abba Father allowed the enemy to attack what was not in perfect relationship with Him, but the enemy could not touch Job. Why? Because Abba can't break His Word. What is said is said.....
 
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Job 33-14 also explains how "God speaks first one way, then another, though we don't perceive it", in opposition to the the false belief that God is so vast He is unknowable.
 
infinitekhanol said:
No sister. The Word is truth. It is your understanding and interpretation of the Word I am kicking against.
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The misunderstanding is yours!! The Bible says there is ONE way, one door and that is through Jesus Christ. Muslims do not believe that Jesus is they only way, or even a way. They believe He was a prophet, nothing more. They do not believe He is the Son of God. Your understanding is wrong when it doesn't line up with the Word, and it does not!!
 
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infinitekhanol said:
The word of God is truth and remains truth forevermore. What bothers me is your interpretation of the word. You say Rcc is also evil and some other Christian denominations are evil too. It seems any one that does not agree with your personal interpretation of the scripture is evil. If men were God!!
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If you knew the Word you'd know what was wrong with Catholic beliefs. I don't recall saying they are evil. You'd know which beliefs they practice that are against what the Bibles teaches. And surely you don't hold with priests molesting children. That is not on the congregation, those in authority who have looked the other way will be punished by God for what they have done. I believe there are true believers within the Catholic church who are staying and hoping to lead others to the truth. But many of the things they practice are totally against what the Word preaches.

I did not say other denominations are evil. I said the Muslim religion is evil. It is anti-Christ. And not only is it anti-Christ it's anti Semitic. They do not serve the same god. If you believe they do, you do not know God the Father personally. It's not a matter of interpretation. The Word is clear, Jesus is the ONLY way. A child can understand that, there is no other way to take that verse. You are wrong and you have been proven wrong by several here. Sister Mag is well versed on what Muslims believe. They will not gain heaven unless they come out of the bondage of their false and evil religion.
 
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EternalSoul said:
i actually saw the graphic video where this took place... she didnt seem to even flinch... either she didnt understand or was brave as God.... eeeh maybe she was rly killed for being christian wich is much more likely
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God sees things through an eternal perspective. Way different than our own. The ot is full of gross brutality.

There is a trap in a mindset of "why does God allow this or that ".
Or "seems like he COULD do more" (to help out mankind or certain situations)

If you study the authority of the believer,you enter the first step of understanding what is really going on.

Once hit that moment ("wait a minute, what is REALLY going on here"),it is a game changer.

Then combine that with Jesus dcaration; "it is expedient for your sakes that I leave"
And
"I give you the keys to the kingdom"
And most 18;18-19
(Binding and losing) which is "allowing/dis allowing"

The authority of the believer.

We were saved "from hell"

But "to" posses the land and do what Jesus did.

(Saved "TO")

The authority of the believer is David &Goliath.
One man of faith stops thousands of "little girl beheadings"

That's the rub.

We are the blame

How many muslims have we saved,?

How many muslims that got saved are calling you for help,prayer, advice?

See what I mean? We are the answer and the problem.

God should fire 95% of us for the sorry lackluster job we care nothing about....that He LEFT US IN CHARGE TO DO.

We are so pathetic.
 
infinitekhanol said:
Are you saying Christians do not murder, kill, rape fornicate, indulge in human trafficking, adultery etc etc. What the op said is not peculiar to Islam alone. Man's inhumanity to man cuts across borders and religions unfortunately, christianity inclusive.
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Ha ha

Every disaster we outnumber you guys 100% in helping victims.

Muslims do ZERO.

No contest . Your comparison is like mother Teresa and Jeffrey dahmer
 
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infinitekhanol said:
Are you saying Christians do not murder, kill, rape fornicate, indulge in human trafficking, adultery etc etc. What the op said is not peculiar to Islam alone. Man's inhumanity to man cuts across borders and religions unfortunately, christianity inclusive.
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Exactly.
Christians not only don't do that, we are taught NOT TO DO THAT.

Muslims are taught TO do that.
 
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infinitekhanol said:
Oh! it is good you smiled and passed because you may not have had a suitable response to what I said.

What I am sayingis that we should first remove the log in our own eyes so that we can see clearly, to remove the log in another's eyes. I will just copy and paste below one of Pottersclay's post which is very apt here.

To tell you the truth jesus responded to questions like this in this manner.

Do you suppose the child were a worse sinner or the man? I say to you no but if you do not repent you likewise shall parish.

By the way, Christendom refers to all the Christian world , Christian fold, all inclusive irrespective of denomination
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We have a guide book and a living savior/guide

He/it instructs us to love and give life.

Muslims have neither.
 
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infinitekhanol said:
First, thank you for stating why you disagreed with my post.

Yes I know Islam as a religion does not believe in the fatherhood of God, the Trinity and Incarnation but that does not mean we do not serve the same God.

You may be wrong about their edicts because I know they preach and teach all those things you mentioned. However, teaching and practicing or embracing them as virtues to be lived in daily life are two different things. Same in Christendom. The bible tells us what God requires from us and most of us end up believing and doing the opposite.

I believe, as Peter said in Acts 10:35, that in every nation, he that fears God and walks righteously is accepted with Him.
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What I want to know is if we serve the same God why does "our" God tells Muslims to kill christians and why they have to convert Christians to Islam?
 
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EternalSoul said:
Could anyone tell me why Jesus allows things like a 40 year old supposed Muslim man wich cuts off the head of a 6 year old girl for "cheating on him"??
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Chances are her death will touch the hearts of some people and make them look towards Christ for the Truth.
 
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