Why dont christians celebrate the feast of the Lord? (APPOINTED TIMES)

[God-fearing]

So you have only speculation that the feasts were pre-law. There's no clear teaching in scripture that keeping them is important for Christians. If you want to keep them that's up to you; I don't base my walk on speculation, I stick to sound teaching.

Key Aspects of the Feasts in Christ's Reign:

• Feast of Tabernacles (Sukkot): Zechariah 14:16-19 specifically prophesies that all nations will go up to Jerusalem to celebrate the Feast of Tabernacles during Christ’s future reign, marking it as a key observance in the Millennium.
• Feast of Trumpets (Yom Teruah): Represents the return of Jesus Christ in power and glory.
• Day of Atonement (Yom Kippur): Symbolizes the cleansing of the earth and the banishment of Satan, setting the stage for the peaceful reign.
  

These feasts serve as a divine blueprint in Leviticus 23 for God's plan of redemption and restoration, with the millennial reign being the ultimate "sabbath rest" and fulfillment of these appointed times.

 

[ResidentAlien]

I respect that.. but as I posted before these are God's feast. By your answer here i take it that you see these observed only by the jews.

I agree they're God's feasts, but there's no mention of them before the law, and believers aren't under the law. No one is obligated to keep them. If Jews or Gentiles want to observe them that's their call; it's not my place to say they can't. If it was something God expected of NT believers, He would've made it plain.

 

[ChristRoseFromTheDead]

Key Aspects of the Feasts in Christ's Reign:

• Feast of Tabernacles (Sukkot): Zechariah 14:16-19 specifically prophesies that all nations will go up to Jerusalem to celebrate the Feast of Tabernacles during Christ’s future reign, marking it as a key observance in the Millennium.
• Feast of Trumpets (Yom Teruah): Represents the return of Jesus Christ in power and glory.
• Day of Atonement (Yom Kippur): Symbolizes the cleansing of the earth and the banishment of Satan, setting the stage for the peaceful reign.

These feasts serve as a divine blueprint in Leviticus 23 for God's plan of redemption and restoration, with the millennial reign being the ultimate "sabbath rest" and fulfillment of these appointed times.

The gentiles will celebrate tabernacles during the millennium because they are part of the body of Christ and will always be there. Tabernacles is a type of that reality that the prophecy is pointing to.

The day of atonement was when the high priest made reconciliation for all of the people and then emerged from the holy place to send away their sins on a goat alive into the wilderness. The true high priest has been making reconciliation for all of his people for nearly 2000 years, and will emerge from the holy place in heaven when the temple is completed. At which point the temple will be filled with smoke and the glory of God such that no man can enter the temple until the bowls of wrath have been poured out on the earth and the beast and false prophet are thrown alive into the lake of fire.

 

[ChristRoseFromTheDead]

I respect that.. but as I posted before these are God's feast. By your answer here i take it that you see these observed only by the jews.

Circumcision was also God's ritual.

 

[TruthDefender]

Well I'm not adding anything the Lord says they are his feast days. All I'm asking is why we dont recognize them.

You’re ignoring most of the NC.

 

[Aaron56]

Leviticus 26:11-12
And I will make My dwelling place among you, and My soul will not despise you. I will walk among you and be your God, and you will be My people.

Ezekiel 37:27
My dwelling place will be with them; I will be their God, and they will be My people.

Paul taught on this as a present reality:

2 Corinthians 6:16
What agreement can exist between the temple of God and idols? For we are the temple of the living God. As God has said: “I will dwell with them and walk among them, and I will be their God, and they will be My people.”

Why celebrate the shadow when the reality has come?

 

[God-fearing]

Leviticus 26:11-12
And I will make My dwelling place among you, and My soul will not despise you. I will walk among you and be your God, and you will be My people.

Ezekiel 37:27
My dwelling place will be with them; I will be their God, and they will be My people.

Paul taught on this as a present reality:

2 Corinthians 6:16
What agreement can exist between the temple of God and idols? For we are the temple of the living God. As God has said: “I will dwell with them and walk among them, and I will be their God, and they will be My people.”

Why celebrate the shadow when the reality has come?

Simply put....feastdays are not shadows.

 

[birdie]

Key Aspects of the Feasts in Christ's Reign:

• Feast of Tabernacles (Sukkot): Zechariah 14:16-19 specifically prophesies that all nations will go up to Jerusalem to celebrate the Feast of Tabernacles during Christ’s future reign, marking it as a key observance in the Millennium.
• Feast of Trumpets (Yom Teruah): Represents the return of Jesus Christ in power and glory.
• Day of Atonement (Yom Kippur): Symbolizes the cleansing of the earth and the banishment of Satan, setting the stage for the peaceful reign.

These feasts serve as a divine blueprint in Leviticus 23 for God's plan of redemption and restoration, with the millennial reign being the ultimate "sabbath rest" and fulfillment of these appointed times.

Thanks God-fearing for your interest in the Feasts of the Lord. Asking questions about scripture is good that we may learn and be edified hopefully. You mention the Feast of Tabernacles. It takes a certain amount of time to look at each feast, so let's just stick with one for now - the Feast of Tabernacles.

"Speak unto the children of Israel, saying, The fifteenth day of this seventh month shall be the feast of tabernacles for seven days unto the LORD. On the first day shall be an holy convocation: ye shall do no servile work therein. Seven days ye shall offer an offering made by fire unto the LORD: on the eighth day shall be an holy convocation unto you; and ye shall offer an offering made by fire unto the LORD: it is a solemn assembly; and ye shall do no servile work therein."

In these verses, we get an emphasis on the number seven. The number seven in the Bible emphasizes that salvation in Christ is done entirely by Christ's work on the cross, whilst the saved person only rests in that regard. If someone is saved, that is the case. They are fulfilling the 'seven' aspect of the feast just by being saved. They do not need to perform the feast as a ceremony to have that salvation. The feast is simply describing it. The sacrifice by fire mentioned is a picture of Christ on the cross. A saved person is saved because of Christ's sacrifice. But the feast is just scripture describing that sacrifice. The saved person is fulfilling what is being described by the feast, not by doing a ritual feast, but by simply being actually saved.

"And ye shall take you on the first day the boughs of goodly trees, branches of palm trees, and the boughs of thick trees, and willows of the brook; and ye shall rejoice before the LORD your God seven days."

We see in the Feast this mention of goodly trees. Remember Christ says that people are like trees. Palm trees are specifically mentioned as trees of righteousness. We are the branches in the Bible. Christ is the plant that we are to abide in. The reason rejoicing is mentioned is because this imagery of saved persons is after being brought out of bondage (from Egypt), brought out of the unsaved condition into salvation. A saved person in Christ does not have to perform the ritual feast, they simply have to have been brought out of the unsaved condition into the saved condition to be living what the feast describes.

"Ye shall dwell in booths seven days; all that are Israelites born shall dwell in booths:"

The term 'booths' means 'tabernacles'. We learn in the Bible that the Word became flesh and tabernacled among us. So, the feast is telling us that everyone who is saved is living in his Word. Why seven days? Again, because Christ has done all the work of saving them, whist they only rest in that regard. Are you living in his Word? Then, you do not have to do the ritual feast. You have already fulfilled what it is describing. The scripture about the feast simply helps the Christian of today understand what is going on in salvation.

Now, you mention Zechariah and the Millennium. Zechariah 14 mentions: "And it shall come to pass, that every one that is left of all the nations which came against Jerusalem shall even go up from year to year to worship the King, the LORD of hosts, and to keep the feast of tabernacles."

This scripture is describing how the remnant of believers shall be saved. They shall live in God's Word. Take some scripture and believe it and you are living in God's word. It is using the feast of tabernacles as a picture of people at the time of the church to be living in God's word, not in the land of the unsaved condition that they came out of when they accepted Christ and were saved.

Zechariah continues by talking about the unsaved: "And if the family of Egypt go not up, and come not, that have no rain; there shall be the plague, wherewith the LORD will smite the heathen that come not up to keep the feast of tabernacles."

The lack of rain mentioned means the lack of the gospel. The unsaved do not believe or receive the gospel so they have no gospel, no rain.

Now, the Millenium is simply a man-made idea if you mean a literal 1000 years. It comes from Rev. 20: "And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand. And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,"

This is a picture of how Christ comes down from heaven and binds Satan by going to the cross and being resurrected. The thousand years is a figurative number, not an actual thousand years, describing the full time.

We read: "Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years."

As soon as Christ beats Satan at the cross and resurrection, then believers have part in his resurrection. Christ's resurrection is the first resurrection. So, believers have a part in that since it is the reason that they are saved. Believers are called blessed and holy. As soon as someone is saved, they begin to rule and to reign with Christ in heavenly places in Christ Jesus.

So, if you are interested in the Feasts of the Lord to understand salvation as God describes it then it is excellent to look at the feasts. But observing them as rituals does not make one saved nor unsaved. It is simply a picture showing what salvation is.

 

[God-fearing]

Thanks God-fearing for your interest in the Feasts of the Lord. Asking questions about scripture is good that we may learn and be edified hopefully. You mention the Feast of Tabernacles. It takes a certain amount of time to look at each feast, so let's just stick with one for now - the Feast of Tabernacles.

"Speak unto the children of Israel, saying, The fifteenth day of this seventh month shall be the feast of tabernacles for seven days unto the LORD. On the first day shall be an holy convocation: ye shall do no servile work therein. Seven days ye shall offer an offering made by fire unto the LORD: on the eighth day shall be an holy convocation unto you; and ye shall offer an offering made by fire unto the LORD: it is a solemn assembly; and ye shall do no servile work therein."

In these verses, we get an emphasis on the number seven. The number seven in the Bible emphasizes that salvation in Christ is done entirely by Christ's work on the cross, whilst the saved person only rests in that regard. If someone is saved, that is the case. They are fulfilling the 'seven' aspect of the feast just by being saved. They do not need to perform the feast as a ceremony to have that salvation. The feast is simply describing it. The sacrifice by fire mentioned is a picture of Christ on the cross. A saved person is saved because of Christ's sacrifice. But the feast is just scripture describing that sacrifice. The saved person is fulfilling what is being described by the feast, not by doing a ritual feast, but by simply being actually saved.

"And ye shall take you on the first day the boughs of goodly trees, branches of palm trees, and the boughs of thick trees, and willows of the brook; and ye shall rejoice before the LORD your God seven days."

We see in the Feast this mention of goodly trees. Remember Christ says that people are like trees. Palm trees are specifically mentioned as trees of righteousness. We are the branches in the Bible. Christ is the plant that we are to abide in. The reason rejoicing is mentioned is because this imagery of saved persons is after being brought out of bondage (from Egypt), brought out of the unsaved condition into salvation. A saved person in Christ does not have to perform the ritual feast, they simply have to have been brought out of the unsaved condition into the saved condition to be living what the feast describes.

"Ye shall dwell in booths seven days; all that are Israelites born shall dwell in booths:"

The term 'booths' means 'tabernacles'. We learn in the Bible that the Word became flesh and tabernacled among us. So, the feast is telling us that everyone who is saved is living in his Word. Why seven days? Again, because Christ has done all the work of saving them, whist they only rest in that regard. Are you living in his Word? Then, you do not have to do the ritual feast. You have already fulfilled what it is describing. The scripture about the feast simply helps the Christian of today understand what is going on in salvation.

Now, you mention Zechariah and the Millennium. Zechariah 14 mentions: "And it shall come to pass, that every one that is left of all the nations which came against Jerusalem shall even go up from year to year to worship the King, the LORD of hosts, and to keep the feast of tabernacles."

This scripture is describing how the remnant of believers shall be saved. They shall live in God's Word. Take some scripture and believe it and you are living in God's word. It is using the feast of tabernacles as a picture of people at the time of the church to be living in God's word, not in the land of the unsaved condition that they came out of when they accepted Christ and were saved.

Zechariah continues by talking about the unsaved: "And if the family of Egypt go not up, and come not, that have no rain; there shall be the plague, wherewith the LORD will smite the heathen that come not up to keep the feast of tabernacles."

The lack of rain mentioned means the lack of the gospel. The unsaved do not believe or receive the gospel so they have no gospel, no rain.

Now, the Millenium is simply a man-made idea if you mean a literal 1000 years. It comes from Rev. 20: "And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand. And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,"

This is a picture of how Christ comes down from heaven and binds Satan by going to the cross and being resurrected. The thousand years is a figurative number, not an actual thousand years, describing the full time.

We read: "Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years."

As soon as Christ beats Satan at the cross and resurrection, then believers have part in his resurrection. Christ's resurrection is the first resurrection. So, believers have a part in that since it is the reason that they are saved. Believers are called blessed and holy. As soon as someone is saved, they begin to rule and to reign with Christ in heavenly places in Christ Jesus.

So, if you are interested in the Feasts of the Lord to understand salvation as God describes it then it is excellent to look at the feasts. But observing them as rituals does not make one saved nor unsaved. It is simply a picture showing what salvation is.

Interesting observation you have here, can you tell me why you believe the millennium is man made?

 

[Inquisitor]

Strange but predictable are the comments made here. No one has answered how any in Genesis knew how to present offerings and build alters.
Imo considering God's feast days as a law given only to the jews seems out of context.
These feast days are seen throughout the new testament and observed by our Lord. Yes they were about him, but are hardly talked about. Yet prophecy fulfillment seems to outline them.
Now I will ask another question
The land of Israel was considered by many to be a barren wasteland pre 1948 yet today its considered one of the most prosperous nations. How did that occur? Many still dont see Jesus as messiah, and we know the law saves no one. Could keeping the feast days have anything to do with that?.....just asking

Go live in Israel but watch out for incoming missiles.

Israel has been in constant conflict with the surrounding Muslim nations since 1948.

There are many countries that a Jewish passport would put your life in jeopardy.

The feast days were shadow celebrations and especially the Passover.

The law as a whole was considered to be a yoke that the Jews had to bear.

 

[birdie]

Interesting observation you have here, can you tell me why you believe the millennium is man made?

Thanks God-fearing, for your question about the millennium. Let's read that again. But first, keep in mind that God says that his scripture is written in parable form. We read in Psalm 78, "Give ear, O my people, to my law: incline your ears to the words of my mouth. I will open my mouth in a parable:" See how God calls his words, the law, a single parable. So scripture is written in parable form such that earthly stories have spiritual interpreted meanings. The sword, for example, sticking out of Jesus' mouth in Revelation, is not meaning a metal sword, but rather is meaning God's word. Mark 4:34 backs up the fact that the Bible is written as a parable by letting us know "But without a parable spake he not unto them: and when they were alone, he expounded all things to his disciples." The chapter further says that God opens the ears of those who are saved to understand parables, the Bible. But it says that to those who are without (unsaved) the Bible is a parable that they do not understand. Very important as we look at Revelation 20 that you asked about.

"And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand."
The term 'angel' simply means 'messenger'. Jesus, for example is the chief messenger. In this verse, we see Jesus (the messenger) coming down from heaven. Remember how Jesus came from heaven to go to the cross. Jesus had the key to the bottomless pit. The bottomless pit is parable terminology for hell, the unsaved condition. Only Jesus is able to have power over the unsaved condition because he beat Satan at the cross and resurrection.

"And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,"

Jesus bound Satan when he overcame him by his blood and by the word of his testimony, at the cross and the resurrection. Now, Jesus is even able to tell his followers that whatsoever they bind on earth will be bound, and he gives them power over all the works of the enemy. The gates of hell will not prevail against them. It is very important to understand that this is referring to bound in terms of belief (spiritually bound). If a person believes on the Lord unto salvation, Satan is bound in the sense that he can not stop that person from being saved. Jesus has given them life instead of death, such that whoever lives and believes on him shall never die.

Obviously, the picture of Christ defeating Satan at the cross has led to the church age (to the time after the cross) and this period of salvation during which people can be saved has been going on for more than a literal thousand years. God uses numbers in parable fashion. For example, the two witnesses who receive power in Revelation 11 to prophesy is a picture of all of the true believers who are saved during the church age who share the testimony of Jesus during the church age. It is not a literal 2 persons, but the number two emphasizes their witness. Remember how Jesus sent out the disciples to witness by twos and they came back saying that they had power over even demons. Remember how we read in the Bible about after being saved, we shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghose is come upon us and we shall be his witnesses. Remember how the Bible says that the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophesy.

Are only 5 persons saved from humanity according to the parable of the virgins, or is the number 5 a picture of all who are saved? It is not different for the number 'a thousand' in Revelation 20. It is a parable term, most likely emphasizing the full period of time.

 

[God-fearing]

Thanks God-fearing, for your question about the millennium. Let's read that again. But first, keep in mind that God says that his scripture is written in parable form. We read in Psalm 78, "Give ear, O my people, to my law: incline your ears to the words of my mouth. I will open my mouth in a parable:" See how God calls his words, the law, a single parable. So scripture is written in parable form such that earthly stories have spiritual interpreted meanings. The sword, for example, sticking out of Jesus' mouth in Revelation, is not meaning a metal sword, but rather is meaning God's word. Mark 4:34 backs up the fact that the Bible is written as a parable by letting us know "But without a parable spake he not unto them: and when they were alone, he expounded all things to his disciples." The chapter further says that God opens the ears of those who are saved to understand parables, the Bible. But it says that to those who are without (unsaved) the Bible is a parable that they do not understand. Very important as we look at Revelation 20 that you asked about.

"And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand."
The term 'angel' simply means 'messenger'. Jesus, for example is the chief messenger. In this verse, we see Jesus (the messenger) coming down from heaven. Remember how Jesus came from heaven to go to the cross. Jesus had the key to the bottomless pit. The bottomless pit is parable terminology for hell, the unsaved condition. Only Jesus is able to have power over the unsaved condition because he beat Satan at the cross and resurrection.

"And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,"

Jesus bound Satan when he overcame him by his blood and by the word of his testimony, at the cross and the resurrection. Now, Jesus is even able to tell his followers that whatsoever they bind on earth will be bound, and he gives them power over all the works of the enemy. The gates of hell will not prevail against them. It is very important to understand that this is referring to bound in terms of belief (spiritually bound). If a person believes on the Lord unto salvation, Satan is bound in the sense that he can not stop that person from being saved. Jesus has given them life instead of death, such that whoever lives and believes on him shall never die.

Obviously, the picture of Christ defeating Satan at the cross has led to the church age (to the time after the cross) and this period of salvation during which people can be saved has been going on for more than a literal thousand years. God uses numbers in parable fashion. For example, the two witnesses who receive power in Revelation 11 to prophesy is a picture of all of the true believers who are saved during the church age who share the testimony of Jesus during the church age. It is not a literal 2 persons, but the number two emphasizes their witness. Remember how Jesus sent out the disciples to witness by twos and they came back saying that they had power over even demons. Remember how we read in the Bible about after being saved, we shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghose is come upon us and we shall be his witnesses. Remember how the Bible says that the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophesy.

Are only 5 persons saved from humanity according to the parable of the virgins, or is the number 5 a picture of all who are saved? It is not different for the number 'a thousand' in Revelation 20. It is a parable term, most likely emphasizing the full period of time.

Prophecy imo has to come to fruition. You have spiritualize what Christ has done but it has not come pass as of yet.
The reign of Christ is actually 1000 yrs as in the day of the Lord. Not man made....imo.
During which time the nations that are left get a first hand look at the promised kingdom and its king.
David's throne is earthly not heavenly in which Prophecy says Jesus will reign from.
If Satan is bound now why is there still evil in the world?
Jesus first advent was as the lamb of God he returns as the Lion of Judah.
There are still 3 feast days remaining in which Christ will bring to fruition..

 

[Lifted_by_the_word]

 

[God-fearing]

That's what I'm talking about.....what says you...do you see this as harmful or a deeper relationship with God?

Thank you

 

[birdie]

Prophecy imo has to come to fruition. You have spiritualize what Christ has done but it has not come pass as of yet.
The reign of Christ is actually 1000 yrs as in the day of the Lord. Not man made....imo.
During which time the nations that are left get a first hand look at the promised kingdom and its king.
David's throne is earthly not heavenly in which Prophecy says Jesus will reign from.
If Satan is bound now why is there still evil in the world?
Jesus first advent was as the lamb of God he returns as the Lion of Judah.
There are still 3 feast days remaining in which Christ will bring to fruition..

Thanks God-fearing, for your reply. Yes, we see things quite differently, but thanks for chatting.