Why humans survived the asteroid that wiped out the dinosaurs?

[shittim]

The other really weird hypothesis scientists like to put forward is the universe was started with a 'big bang' lol

if that isnt childish reasoning I dont know what is.

it's true, He spoke it into existance.

 

[shittim]

This topic is certainly not important enough to warrant THAT much acrimony.

But then you do love insulting people for no apparent reason...

Sorry TimothyGodIsLove. Usually people only insult each other like that in the Bible Discussion Forum, but occasionally we get some leakage into these other forums. Somebody needs to check the seals between the forums. Gonna have to replace the O-rings again.

coming from you.......

 

[Ahwatukee]

Saying the earth was covered with water does not equate to it already being there as if it had not been created exactly as God's Word says: in the beginning. In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. What is so difficult about that?

The earth being covered with water wasn't my point. The fact that it was already there and is outside of the six days of creation is my point. As I said, you won't find scripture saying "on the first day, God created the earth and it was covered with water." It was already there. And how long it had been in that state before the creation within it and around it, scripture doesn't say.

 

[Lanolin]

well an artist creates using found materials then transforms them to something else
Just as a cook takes ingredients and then makes a dish
Or a writer takes letters and forms them into words and sentences

So possibly everything was already there (raw material) waiting for God to do something with it...He then spoke what he was gonna do and went round creating it.

It seems amazing to us humans because we cant conceive of doing the same. hence ppl making up stories like 'the big bang' or meteroids hitting earth billions of years ago. lol

 

[Lanolin]

it seems scientists totally lack imagination in that department to come up with some lame hypotheses like that.

 

[iamsoandso]

Saying the earth was covered with water does not equate to it already being there as if it had not been created exactly as God's Word says: in the beginning. In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. What is so difficult about that?

I agree in Genesis 2:4 the Scriptures say the earth is included in the generation's of the Heavens and the earth https://biblehub.com/interlinear/genesis/2-4.htm

 

[TimothyGodIsLove]

Correct! The creation that is mentioned, is referring to everything that God created on the already exiting earth and the Cosmo's. So, who knows how long the earth was just sitting there covered in water before the creation. My point is that, the word of God does not say, "On the first day, God created the earth which was covered in water. It was already there. The creation is within the earth and outside of it. But the earth was already here.

Also, regarding the dinosaurs, I don't believe that mankind was on the earth at the same time as they were.

But this clearly is not in the Biblic

Saying the earth was covered with water does not equate to it already being there as if it had not been created exactly as God's Word says: in the beginning. In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. What is so difficult about that?

I totaly agree with Ahwatukee, after looking it up,i have confirmed that on the Third Day,
God performed a creation work of Separation.
He simply separated what was already existing, separation of The already existing lands from the seas.

 

[TimothyGodIsLove]

Correct! The creation that is mentioned, is referring to everything that God created on the already exiting earth and the Cosmo's. So, who knows how long the earth was just sitting there covered in water before the creation. My point is that, the word of God does not say, "On the first day, God created the earth which was covered in water. It was already there. The creation is within the earth and outside of it. But the earth was already here.

Also, regarding the dinosaurs, I don't believe that mankind was on the earth at the same time as they were.

This is not what Genesis teaches, Humans and Animals(Dinosaurs) inlcuded came into existence on the same day(6th day). No life ever came or existed outside God. The earth was desolate. Desolate means that its state was lifeless like other Mercury or Jupiter.
The Bible does not teach that the dinosaurs pre existed before humans. They all came into exstence during the Creation Days.
Humanity could have easily survived the dinosaurs by picking out mountain tops and hill tops that were difficult for dinosaurs to climb or reach for survival or islands that dinosaurs wouldnt reach for fear of drowning..

There are several evidences online to support this claim in photograph form.

Correct! The creation that is mentioned, is referring to everything that God created on the already exiting earth and the Cosmo's. So, who knows how long the earth was just sitting there covered in water before the creation. My point is that, the word of God does not say, "On the first day, God created the earth which was covered in water. It was already there. The creation is within the earth and outside of it. But the earth was already here.

Also, regarding the dinosaurs, I don't believe that mankind was on the earth at the same time as they were.

This is not what Genesis teaches, Humans and Animals(Dinosaurs) inlcuded came into existence on the same day(6th day). No life ever came or existed outside God. The earth was desolate. Desolate means that its state was lifeless like other Mercury or Jupiter.
The Bible does not teach that the dinosaurs pre existed before humans. They all came into exstence during the Creation Days.
Humanity could have easily survived the dinosaurs by picking out mountain tops and hill tops that were difficult for dinosaurs to climb or reach for survival or islands that dinosaurs wouldnt reach for fear of drowning..

There are several evidences online to support this claim in photograph form.

 

[Gideon300]

But the time diffefence between the creation of the world and creation of manking was 3 days... Earth(3rd day), Adam and Eve(6th day).
Scientists claim the earth was created 6 billion years ago, the bible says 4200 years before Jesus came plus 2000 years AD which makes it 6200 years since creation.
14 gens from Adam to Noah
14 gens from Noah to Abraham
14 gens from Abraham to Jesus...
Assuming a sample generation lifetime is 100 years thats 42 times 100=4200 years....
One thing, our Bible does not account for extinction of species found dead

God did not see fit to include it. Can you imagine how big the Bible would be if everything to do with the natural world was included?

There is reason to believe that the earth was already formed and inhabited prior to Adam. Some believe that the earth became formless and empty. That is an acceptable translation of the Hebrew word translated "was". It answers a whole lot of questions, including the extinction of dinosaurs. The waters that covered the earth were from a worldwide flood. Noah's flood was the second, not the first. It is a theory and only God knows for sure. I believe it to be true. Does it matter? No. A person can be born again and believe in a 6,000 year old creation, or born again and believe as I do.

 

[Moses_Young]

I bet the floods might have wiped them out because their size really limited them being allowed into the ark. Other species not ordered by God might have been killed by the flood.

The bible says God brought two of every kind of animal into the ark. Therefore, if dinosaurs existed at the time, He would have brought two of the different kinds of dinosaurs, also. Therefore, we can't logically conclude that the flood wipes them *all* out. A pair of younger dinosaurs would likely have been smaller than an elephant, based on "dinosaur eggs", if nothing else, so they would have fitted onto the ark okay.

This said, there are numerous recent historical accounts of encounters with dinosaur-like animals. St George was famous for slaying a dragon (or more), and the Chinese have one of their astrological years named after this type of creature. There are also accounts dating back only a century or two of encounters by people with giant, black, winged creatures coming out of caves.

 

[Moses_Young]

The other really weird hypothesis scientists like to put forward is the universe was started with a 'big bang' lol

if that isnt childish reasoning I dont know what is.

So-called "scientists" put forward all manner of religious theories that have no basis in science. Bigbangism, heliocentrism, evolutionism, vaccinationism. These crazy ideas aren't put forward because scientists really believe them - scientists are paid to continue pushing these theories.

 

[Magenta]

But this clearly is not in the Biblic

I totaly agree with Ahwatukee, after looking it up,i have confirmed that on the Third Day,
God performed a creation work of Separation.
He simply separated what was already existing, separation of The already existing lands from the seas.

What was already there from day one's act of creation.

Denying that "in the beginning" means what is says strikes me as very strange indeed.

Twisting it to mean something else is equally strange, if not even stranger.

 

[Dude653]

Because people didn't exist for another 65 million years

 

[Moses_Young]

Because people didn't exist for another 65 million years

Neither did dinosaurs, and neither did the Earth. It was created ~6000 years ago.

 

[TimothyGodIsLove]

What was already there from day one's act of creation.

Denying that "in the beginning" means what is says strikes me as very strange indeed.

Twisting it to mean something else is equally strange, if not even stranger.

Greetings Magenta

And the spirit of God was moving over the waters, For how long this happened we do not know. There is also another verse that states "where were we when I(Lord) established the foundations of the earth?"
It is a very real possibilty that God might have allowed a significant amount of time to pass after establishing the heavens and the earth before he uttered the words "Let there be light".
On the other hand your suggestion that he did establish the earth and the heavens and on the same day he did create the light is valid and cannot be totally ruled out. But why would radioisotope dating which is true,
(As a believer i do know that you acknowledge that some of the science is true because the computer your typing this on has been made a reality through science) return billions of years for sample rocks, before God called out everything into existence, he needed a lot of planning and work to do which is why these rocks return insane dates.

 

[TimothyGodIsLove]

yeap and i

The bible says God brought two of every kind of animal into the ark. Therefore, if dinosaurs existed at the time, He would have brought two of the different kinds of dinosaurs, also. Therefore, we can't logically conclude that the flood wipes them *all* out. A pair of younger dinosaurs would likely have been smaller than an elephant, based on "dinosaur eggs", if nothing else, so they would have fitted onto the ark okay.

This said, there are numerous recent historical accounts of encounters with dinosaur-like animals. St George was famous for slaying a dragon (or more), and the Chinese have one of their astrological years named after this type of creature. There are also accounts dating back only a century or two of encounters by people with giant, black, winged creatures coming out of caves.

Greetings Moses_Young
i do agree that the dinosaurs might have been allowed into the ark and came out during after the floods ended, it could also be human predation on them that could have caused their extinction. Now we have a lot of species that are going extinct because of humans hunting them down for example the lions in Africa, it is an endangered species because their numbers are significantly reducing and very soon it is feared that there will be no lions left, THe future generations if there were no digital copies of the lives of these animals on the internet would invent ridiculous theories to explain why the lions went extinct.
The same can be said of the dinosaurs, Humans could have easily organized search parties and mercenary groups to find and elminate all dinosaurs in their areas because they posed a great threat to the propsperity of the human race

 

[Gideon300]

The bible says God brought two of every kind of animal into the ark. Therefore, if dinosaurs existed at the time, He would have brought two of the different kinds of dinosaurs, also. Therefore, we can't logically conclude that the flood wipes them *all* out. A pair of younger dinosaurs would likely have been smaller than an elephant, based on "dinosaur eggs", if nothing else, so they would have fitted onto the ark okay.

This said, there are numerous recent historical accounts of encounters with dinosaur-like animals. St George was famous for slaying a dragon (or more), and the Chinese have one of their astrological years named after this type of creature. There are also accounts dating back only a century or two of encounters by people with giant, black, winged creatures coming out of caves.

Yes, it is possible. God described what could have been a dinosaur when He was talking to Job.

 

[Ahwatukee]

But this clearly is not in the Biblic

This is not what Genesis teaches, Humans and Animals(Dinosaurs) inlcuded came into existence on the same day(6th day). No life ever came or existed outside God. The earth was desolate. Desolate means that its state was lifeless like other Mercury or Jupiter.
The Bible does not teach that the dinosaurs pre existed before humans. They all came into exstence during the Creation Days.
Humanity could have easily survived the dinosaurs by picking out mountain tops and hill tops that were difficult for dinosaurs to climb or reach for survival or islands that dinosaurs wouldnt reach for fear of drowning..

Well, with what we know about dinosaurs, especially the meat eaters, mankind could not exist along side them. Not only that, they would not be included with reference to the common animals. And if they were animals, why are they not mentioned when God had them male and female for the ark? I would submit the following translations as well:

King James Bible
And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.

American Standard Version
And God blessed them: and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it; and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the birds of the heavens, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.

English Revised Version
And God blessed them: and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it; and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.

JPS Tanakh 1917
And God blessed them; and God said unto them: 'Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it; and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that creepeth upon the earth.'

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I've noticed that there are several translations which say "replenish" the earth, which means to 'fill something up again, to renew.' Now I am not proclaiming that this is the case, but am just putting it out there. If the word replenish is correct, then it would mean that something was on the earth prior to our creation. If you're replenishing something, it means that it was previously plenished/filled. That being the case, then what if the dinosaurs were on the earth at an earlier time, before this current creation. Again, I am just speculating, putting this out there. Obviously mankind could not co-exist with dinosaurs anymore that he could co-exist with the offspring of the angels who took wives, who were 300 cubits tall and who Enoch says began to devour men and which is the main reason why God brought the flood.

Nothing set in stone, but Just food for thought

 

[Magenta]

Greetings Magenta

And the spirit of God was moving over the waters, For how long this happened we do not know. There is also another verse that states "where were we when I(Lord) established the foundations of the earth?"
It is a very real possibilty that God might have allowed a significant amount of time to pass after establishing the heavens and the earth before he uttered the words "Let there be light".
On the other hand your suggestion that he did establish the earth and the heavens and on the same day he did create the light is valid and cannot be totally ruled out. But why would radioisotope dating which is true,
(As a believer i do know that you acknowledge that some of the science is true because the computer your typing this on has been made a reality through science) return billions of years for sample rocks, before God called out everything into existence, he needed a lot of planning and work to do which is why these rocks return insane dates.

In the same way you say there could have been "a significant amount of time pass after establishing the heavens and the earth before he uttered the words "Let there be light"" so too could a significant amount of time have passed between the creation of animals, and the creation of man... none of which suggests the earth was there before/pre-existed creation. How is that even possible???

 

[TimothyGodIsLove]

In the same way you say there could have been "a significant amount of time pass after establishing the heavens and the earth before he uttered the words "Let there be light"" so too could a significant amount of time have passed between the creation of animals, and the creation of man... none of which suggests the earth was there before/pre-existed creation. How is that even possible???

Greetings
The bible is very literal about the creation days. The words "There was morning" and "There was evening" meant the time cycle was rotating like today, morning comes and evening passes and we call it a day. So in a single day like today, God created all the land animals and human beings, That is the sixth day. God is powerful enough to do that.
For the pre existence of the earth, let us reason like this...
Imagine the planets Jupiter, for how long they have been around, we do not know, but one thing for sure is that there is no sign of life on any of them, now if God wills any of them to have life, it can happen because he is all powerful, unfortunately that is not in his todo list. The same can be said of the earth. It was here already in the beginning, the light that was created on the first day is what gave time meaning. The object used to measure time before the creation of the sun we surely do not know