Why I now believe that salvation can be lost.
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So eternal life is not eternal life.
Thats good to know.
Gods promise that we will never die is not true
Again, Good to know
Gods promise that we will never hunger or thirst is not true
Again, good to know
Gods promise he WILl raise us on the last day is not true
His promise that we are sealed with the spirit UNTIL the day of redemption is not true
Its good to know All these things and other promised are not true, It would be so sad to have faith in God to keep his promises, only to later find out that non of those things are really true, and we will end up in hell anyway.
Thats good to know.
Gods promise that we will never die is not true
Again, Good to know
Gods promise that we will never hunger or thirst is not true
Again, good to know
Gods promise he WILl raise us on the last day is not true
His promise that we are sealed with the spirit UNTIL the day of redemption is not true
Its good to know All these things and other promised are not true, It would be so sad to have faith in God to keep his promises, only to later find out that non of those things are really true, and we will end up in hell anyway.
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Hello and thanks for your answer. However, I have MANY, MANY other Verses too. Here is another example.
"These men are hidden reefs [elements of great danger to others] in your love feasts when they feast together with you without fear, looking after [only] themselves; [they are like] clouds without water, swept along by the winds; autumn trees without fruit, doubly dead, uprooted and lifeless " Jude 12 AMP
If they died twice then it means they already had been born again.
"These men are hidden reefs [elements of great danger to others] in your love feasts when they feast together with you without fear, looking after [only] themselves; [they are like] clouds without water, swept along by the winds; autumn trees without fruit, doubly dead, uprooted and lifeless " Jude 12 AMP
If they died twice then it means they already had been born again.
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It does not say they died twice, It says they are doubly dead (not only spiritually, But they have fallen from the state of Grace, they heard the word of truth, that could have saved them, and they rejected it. That had it in their grasp and let it go. But nice try
Can the bible contradict itself? How can God say one thing, then go against his own promises?
Oh and PS, Peter denied Jesus 3 times, Did Jesus deny him? Or welcome him with open arms?
Can the bible contradict itself? How can God say one thing, then go against his own promises?
Oh and PS, Peter denied Jesus 3 times, Did Jesus deny him? Or welcome him with open arms?
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Um You must be reading some other thing
Jesus showed peter his love by asking peter three times if he loved (agape) him, Even though peter could not say he did, He only said he had a lower form of Love (phileo) Jesus still told him to go out and feed his people.
If there was a possibility of apostasy, why did God make all these promises, he knew he may not be able to keep?
You still have not responded to my questions about the promises of God
Jesus showed peter his love by asking peter three times if he loved (agape) him, Even though peter could not say he did, He only said he had a lower form of Love (phileo) Jesus still told him to go out and feed his people.
If there was a possibility of apostasy, why did God make all these promises, he knew he may not be able to keep?
You still have not responded to my questions about the promises of God
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How can you explain this Verse then?
"And thou, Solomon my son, know thou the God of thy father, and serve him with a perfect heart and with a willing mind: for the Lord searcheth all hearts, and understandeth all the imaginations of the thoughts: if thou seek him, he will be found of thee; but if thou forsake him, he will cast thee off for ever." 1 Chronicles 28:9
"And thou, Solomon my son, know thou the God of thy father, and serve him with a perfect heart and with a willing mind: for the Lord searcheth all hearts, and understandeth all the imaginations of the thoughts: if thou seek him, he will be found of thee; but if thou forsake him, he will cast thee off for ever." 1 Chronicles 28:9
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