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If I ran this chat room I'd ban you for calling ppl fake Christians and reprobates that is not your place or your job
 

j55

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How can Israel be disobedient if there isn't free will how could we keep His commandments which implies we can not keep His commandments if there isn't free will of course God is sovereign but in His sovereignty He chose to let us choose
Hello. Answer is in Romans chapter 11. Israel didn't obtain what it seeked, but the election, rest were blinded.

The election have Holy Spirit. They don't have free will. Jesus will intervene in there life. Those who have free will, Jesus won't intervene in there lifes. Some people have Spirit of slumber. When seed is planted, it May not germinate. God has his reasons. We're talking about spiritually Dead.

Reprobates are different group. 2 Corinthians chapter 4 will document they have unclesn Spirit. They don't have holy Spirit or Spirit of slumber. Reprobates want nothing to do with God's Truth, Romans chapter 1, they are in rebellion against God.

James 1:27. Reprobates fallen attitude , which rejects God, and his wisdom. Because Reprobates have a depraved mind. They spread heresy to contaminate God's word. Because they indulge in sin. God's Truth exposes fruits of darkness, there sinful life styles. There heart is so corrupt, they won't repent. John chapter 16, holy Spirit is needed to convict person of sin.

They are too morally debased to seek God. God sent his Spirit to the election.
1 Corinthians chapter 1:30
John 14:26
Ephesians chapter 2:6
Colossians 2:13

Reprobates have Spirit of delusion . Devoid of the Spirit.
2 Thessalonians 2:10
Romans chapter 1
Akathartos in Greek means - demonic, unclesn Spirit.

Three different groups
Spiritually dead
Reprobates
Election

Those who have free will, have choice to follow Jesus or Satan. The spiritually dead have Spirit of slumber. They will be taught during milliumum by priests, revelation chapter 20.
Reprobates don't have Spirit of slumber, they reject God and choose rebellion. They made there decision of thier free will to follow Satan. 2 Corinthians chapter 4. 4. Whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not.

Election don't have free will, they are predestined and chosen before foundation of the world.

Satan owns the Reprobates. There under his influence and power. Colossians chapter 1. He hath delivered us from the power of darkness, and conveyed into kingdom of the son of his love.

Luke chapter 16. Two sides of the Gulf. The Reprobates go to sheol called helll. It's holding place for the wicked until judgment Day. The righteous are on side of paradise.
 

j55

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If I ran this chat room I'd ban you for calling ppl fake Christians and reprobates that is not your place or your job

Sir stop harrassing me. I answered your question. Just stop .

I won't respond.
 

Subhumanoidal

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If I ran this chat room I'd ban you for calling ppl fake Christians and reprobates that is not your place or your job
Don't go into the BDF then. Those things happen in there on a regular basis. And are allowed. Have been for over a decade.
 

Lynx

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I get what you are saying I actually see a lot of what you are talking about BUT we can still sin just like Abraham could have chosen not to sacrifice Issac he could have chosen not to be obedient
I told you man, you're beating your head against a brick wall here. He will never relinquish his idea that he is intrinsically better than some other people. The feeling of superiority is addictive.
 

Lynx

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If I ran this chat room I'd ban you for calling ppl fake Christians and reprobates that is not your place or your job
It's only words on a screen. He could call my mother a nematode succubus, it wouldn't make any difference.

He will soon be gone though. We have seen them come and seen them go. Either he will judge us as yet another forum of false brethren and flounce off, or he will eventually do something that will indeed get him banned. Either way, his kind never last long here. He will soon go off to inflict his presence on some other forum.

Just sit back and enjoy the show man.
 

Lynx

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I won't respond.
*Lynx sits back on his haunches and starts caterwauling some song about making promises you can't keep.