I know, but he only said "Make yourself known, make it known you're interested", and I'm asking you what, in real actions, that would look like.
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I know, but he only said "Make yourself known, make it known you're interested", and I'm asking you what, in real actions, that would look like.
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Doing a first move isn't such a big deal for me (I can do that if He's totally deserving....) but, pursuing/courting a guy is such a turn-off for me.. I'm sorry.. 
I mean like flirt a little or something. Coming out and just saying 'Hey I like you' seems really awkward unless youve say been friends with the person for a while.
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fourleaf
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If you consider yourself a NICE guy, you would know why a man should make the FIRST move!
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Art05
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Doing a first move isn't such a big deal for me (I can do that if He's totally deserving....) but, pursuing/courting a guy is such a turn-off for me.. I'm sorry..
~ Would you please explain this to me? I'd really appreciate it.
Why is that?but, pursuing/courting a guy is such a turn-off for me.. I'm sorry..
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If you consider yourself a NICE guy, you would know why a man should make the FIRST move!
This, however, makes no sense whatsoever.
If I would consider myself a nice guy, I *would* know why a man should make the first move? ...
Not only is this absurd, I even feel compelled to say, Think before you type.
God bless!
Okay, this makes sense and I agree with it. Women shouldn't play games. But, I don't believe that flirting = pursuing or making the first move. To me, "making the first move" is saying, "Hey, I like you, want to go on a date?" In so many words, of course.
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Okay, this makes sense and I agree with it. Women shouldn't play games. But, I don't believe that flirting = pursuing or making the first move. To me, "making the first move" is saying, "Hey, I like you, want to go on a date?" In so many words, of course.
... *sigh of relief*
So then, if you think that it's wrong for a woman to make such a first move, can you give reasons as to why?
lolIn so many words, of course.
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Art05
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If you consider yourself a NICE guy, you would know why a man should make the FIRST move!
haha. Woman's logic.
My future wife will have a logic renewed by the Spirit of God. She better ....
lol I ain't gonna be putting up with this dung! haha
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haha. Woman's logic.
My future wife will have a logic renewed by the Spirit of God. She better ....
lol I ain't gonna be putting up with this dung! haha
Well there are exceptions to every rule of course, but in a married relationship it's the man who's the head and it's the woman who's the heart. Logic is yours to give to her and make her more understanding in things, and heart is hers to give to you and make you more caring in things...and such requires patience from both of you. I'm not saying women don't have logic (neither am I saying men don't have heart), but you two are meant to compliment each other like pieces to a puzzle; mixing together ("marriage" same root that spells "marrow" = mixture; amalgamation).
Romans 1:20 says there is no excuse for understanding the ways of God because he's given examples in what he's made...and I conclude that this passage also applies to godly relationships between married men and women.
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For the most part, men are naturally "structured". From the way we think, to the features of our bodies (when in equilibrium), to what motivates us, it's typically "Straight" in nature; direct; right and wrong; logical.
Even your responses testify to this fact. You are singularly focused on "what is" and "what isn't" when answering your questions and thus you're quick to point out someone's failings, sharply (not meaning any harm by it...perhaps you just can't compute in your mind why your respondents can't stay on topic, or why some answer in a certain way). You even may try to make jokes that appear to be an innocent in intent...but they don't quite come off that way.
While for the most part, women are naturally fluid. From the way they think, to the features of their bodies (when in equilibrium), to what motivates them, it's typically "Curved" in nature; non-direct; grey areas and/or degrees; emotional.
And their responses show this as true too, as they often "read into" what one's truly saying or asking; getting to the "heart" of the matter and responding to that instead...but then when you correct them they can't honestly understand why you're so harsh with your words and some must conclude you're just not respectful; because you're not aware of how your words make people feel. So it's not so much them being illogical as it is them feeling it out.
And this observation may give you clues as to why - for most women - it's our role to make the first move. You are the man. You are meant to be the direct one; to draw straight lines (so to speak), as that's how you were originally made. As direct as you are in your expectation to stay on topic and to receive logical answers to your questions in your threads, you are meant to be as direct towards other things you want in life, including the woman you have your eye on. Even down to biology; it's your seeds that make a direct path to the egg, not vice-versa. In social situations this translates into "confidence to pursue her" (clearly making your intentions known from the beginning and not beating around the bush with subtleties)...in life or death situations this translates into "courage to protect her (jumping straight in between she and danger)"...in day-to-day situations this translates into "decisiveness to provide for her" (you both weighing the options but you taking lead in a direction). Straight; a singular focus.
Also with your straight lines, you build the structures she can't build (from physical structures, to discipline for children)...while she fills those structures with a substance only she can provide (color, emotion, nurturing for children), so that when together you both are more complete people.
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Even this fact is shown in other members' responses to you; those who are exceptions to the gender rules above. There's a group of men and women on here who - by their words - show evidence of having substantial experience with the opposite gender (whether through parents, siblings, former dates, spouses, friends, etc.) by how well they respond in threads; striking the right balance between fact and tact; head and heart; logic and sensitivity. They're more complete people because of their experiences.
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So why shouldn't women make "the first move" (assuming "the first move" means "being the direct one who initiates a relationship")? Well I believe for most women, it's not in their nature to (especially those having been regenerated by Christ). They weren't (re)created to act that way so it's unnatural for most to be direct...and it shouldn't be expected of anyone to do anything that feels unnatural. So most godly women are going to be subtle in their admiration; they're going to draw curved lines (so to speak); they're going to dance around you (not literally), hoping we're as fearlessly direct as God created us to be.
"For God hath not given us the spirit of fear; but of power, and of love, and of a sound mind." (2 Timothy 1:7).
[My take on things at least.]
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LOL. Just posting up some factual fun.
The women who really do that stay single forever.
But most women are not that way brother. They just aren't. They also aren't these evil creatures that toy with your emotions and then leave you bleeding in a ditch after they rip out your heart.
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