Why so many crazy people?

[Tintin]

I joined these forums to discuss the Christian faith, amongst other things, with like-minded Christians. A number of people I've encountered so far are 'interesting', to say the least. How is it that some Christians here don't even know and believe the very basic tenants of the Christian faith? What a mess. An interesting mess but a mess nonetheless. I pray that we delve into God's Word, with the Holy Spirit as our guide and that we try to avoid placing our own ideals on the Scriptures. May God's Truth prevail!

 

[Rock022]

The same happened with me, I expected a little disagreement not a complete disagreement. But there are many good fellows in the site.

 

[crossnote]

Lord, I thank you I am not like one of 'those' crazy people.

Tintin, stick around and you'll become just like one of us.

 

[Tintin]

I'm not trying to be a Pharisee. I'm just concerned that some members here are promoting a 'Christianity' that has little basis in the Bible and its teachings and more in common with cults and amalgamations of various pagan religions. Not good.

 

[RickyZ]

There are those who come on sites like this to sow misinformation and disharmony. And anytime you discuss interpretation (and thus opinion) we humans are going to fall prey to our humanity and escalate things at times. That's the great thing about forums. There's lots of good, and bad, ideas... but you never have to read a single one of them.

 

[Newluke]

I'm not trying to be a Pharisee. I'm just concerned that some members here are promoting a 'Christianity' that has little basis in the Bible and its teachings and more in common with cults and amalgamations of various pagan religions. Not good.

Then you should definitely join in the fun at the various threads where such statements are made. Beats making general comments about it, don't you think? Don't expect the attitude of some (or sometimes even the majority) of your fellow CC-members to change, just because you posted a thread. It takes a lot of hard work, study and countless posts trying to convince people. You should have seen what happened to me here when I stated xmas is essentially pagan. So don't despair just yet, brother, you practicaly only just got here. Keep up the good fight.

1 Timothy 6:11-16
11 But you, man of God, flee from all this, and pursue righteousness, godliness, faith, love, endurance and gentleness. 12 Fight the good fight of the faith. Take hold of the eternal life to which you were called when you made your good confession in the presence of many witnesses. 13 In the sight of God, who gives life to everything, and of Christ Jesus, who while testifying before Pontius Pilate made the good confession, I charge you 14 to keep this command without spot or blame until the appearing of our Lord Jesus Christ, 15 which God will bring about in his own time—God, the blessed and only Ruler, the King of kings and Lord of lords, 16 who alone is immortal and who lives in unapproachable light, whom no one has seen or can see. To him be honor and might forever. Amen.

 

[plussizedstickbug]

The general conversation on sites is not to concerning. This I see as individual opinions and perception. This based on their exposure company and past time spent. This will always be continual and continually changing to some degree.
What does cause and eyebrow to go up and spark concern is when the far out there twilight zone actions and words are not from the personal individual.
When you see those who are in high seats swaying positions, large groups established for moving forward and agenda then concern is there.
It is not what they are replacing or what they are replacing it with but why they are doing it that is alarming.
What seems far fetched or out in left field, and very obvious perversion by those who know better, but do it any way willfully for their own way they are seeing to establish.
This is not so foolish as it appears but calculative in its reasoning to make foolishness of what was not foolish for their own organized shifting of things.
I can see something at fist it appears to be grossly contorted out of the very definition of what it was before the contorting of it. I see this and think that it is goofy.
To goofy to even be taken time to second glance it. Then when you see who is doing it and why they are doing it the subject matter is much greater the evil than redefining things to reforming them.
They are actually dragging it out from where it was and placing it out into a whole new sphere even into others hands. Like passing the ball to where it never should have been passed.
And none of them care if it is accepted by the general consensuses they do not need their approval or acceptance not even their adherence. They only need to establish it and place it where they want it and it should not be at all.
This has gone way out there way to far a long time back. It never matters becuase it never was actively acting out to be noticeable as unsettling the foundations of things.

Yet I have come to watch some of the ways they maneuver and those who do such say plainly all we need is to establish the material input it basically.
A small matter not broad not deep but non the less wrong and out there. No one says or does anything over those little things they slip in here and there.
They do not even put them into actual action.
Because they waiting to expand them by adding just a little tweak to it and this will give it the bold pushy infiltrating leverage.

It seems christian but underneath that it is not christian at all it for the most part anti-christian and for those who are moving towards and for anti-christian out comes.
I think when the walls start crumbling down to reveal the new way and ones many will be shocked at what and inch in the wrong hands brings forth even unto masses.
Seems like the work was long in time to put together and like they were just waiting for the old fundies to start thinning down with time and their generation. And they were watching waiting and ready to fill the vacuums.
What we see as totally out there and incorrect in another 5-10 years many many people that have gotten a little older will think it is the finest corrections to the old wore out ways. Some will have never knew the difference and in time this will be the majority.
They will churn out what was secured in long ago times and kept in a flash when the time comes and then their churning will sweep away what was there all together.

 

[crossnote]

I'm not trying to be a Pharisee. I'm just concerned that some members here are promoting a 'Christianity' that has little basis in the Bible and its teachings and more in common with cults and amalgamations of various pagan religions. Not good.

I know but this isn't Church, just a place to state your case biblically and have fun doing it.

 

[Tintin]

The Church is the Body of Christ, a community of believers, so in essence, I think the forums fit the description nicely. Thanks!

 

[Newluke]

The Church is the Body of Christ, a community of believers, so in essence, I think the forums fit the description nicely. Thanks!

I have to agree with brother crossnote here. This isn't a community in the strict sense of the word.

 

[Tintin]

How is an online community, not a community? Just curious. Thanks

 

[nathan3]

I'm weary of using terms like that too generally of Christians. Because it might happen that we mistakenly judge some one void of understanding of God's word; when the reality can be; that we our selves are the ones stumbling with the scriptures . I guess dedicated study in The Bible is the only way to know for sure.

 

[psychomom]

I joined these forums to discuss the Christian faith, amongst other things, with like-minded Christians. A number of people I've encountered so far are 'interesting', to say the least. How is it that some Christians here don't even know and believe the very basic tenants of the Christian faith? What a mess. An interesting mess but a mess nonetheless. I pray that we delve into God's Word, with the Holy Spirit as our guide and that we try to avoid placing our own ideals on the Scriptures. May God's Truth prevail!

Maybe it would be helpful to you (and to us all)
if you share just what you believe to be 'the very basic tenets of the Christian faith'?

Just a thought.
-ellie

 

[Kefa52]

I joined these forums to discuss the Christian faith, amongst other things, with like-minded Christians. A number of people I've encountered so far are 'interesting', to say the least. How is it that some Christians here don't even know and believe the very basic tenants of the Christian faith? What a mess. An interesting mess but a mess nonetheless. I pray that we delve into God's Word, with the Holy Spirit as our guide and that we try to avoid placing our own ideals on the Scriptures. May God's Truth prevail!

"And the frustration starts."

I avoid getting serious about a thread when it starts out.
I Think
I believe

There are people here from all over the world, different cultures, different levels of maturity....etc.

Matthew 18:1 At that time the disciples came to Jesus and said, "Who is greatest in the kingdom of heaven?" Even the disciples argued over what seemed to be unimportant.

I pick and choose my battles. Where I feel led to comment.

 

[Kefa52]

I might be crazy but I'm not dangerous yet.

 

[psychomom]

I might be crazy but I'm not dangerous yet.

"...yet."

hehe

thanks for that.
-ellie

 

[Ariel82]

Maybe it would be helpful to you (and to us all)
if you share just what you believe to be 'the very basic tenets of the Christian faith'?

Just a thought.
-ellie

I found this in another thread Ellie:

My goodness, guys. Christians arguing about the most basic of Christian tenants? This is wrong. If you call yourself a Christian, your faith must be informed by God's Word (taken in context, not out of context).

Lucifer isn't a representation of anything. He was the greatest worship leader of angels in Heaven. He wanted to take God's throne and be God. Naturally, God was peeved and threw Lucifer and his angels out of Heaven. Lucifer is now known as Satan. He is bad news, very bad news. But he's not a symbol, he's very real.

Christ became sin for us. That doesn't mean he was a sinner. It means he was nailed to the cross with all of humanity's past, present and future sins upon him. In the Father's eyes he took on all of our sin and faced God's Wrath, died and then rose again to new life. He faced God's Wrath at sin, so we wouldn't have to, if we just accepted his bloody, atoning sacrifice.

As for the validity of Jesus being God? Of course he's one and the same! You only have to read the Bible to realise that. Not three gods, but one God in three persons - Father, Son, Spirit. The Father governs the Son and the Son governs the Spirit but all live in perfect relationship with each other. The Trinity is never mentioned by name in the Bible but God's Word definitely talks about the three-person hood of God. The Truine God is very much a biblical concept.

I really wonder about some of you and how you study the Bible. You need to read verses in context with the chapters, with the books and with the historical times in which they were written. You need to know the audiences being addressed and the situations/events taking place at the time. Context is key.

Speak God's Truth with love.

tintin: I just noticed that people who spend a lot of time on the internet don't spend as much time with face to face interactions and need more hugs.

I think the lack of hugs and face to face human interaction causes people to go a little crazy because God made us to be social beings and part of a larger community in which we can interact and contribute to.

online communities are nice for a time but its not the same as being with another human being because only so much can be conveyed over the internet. humans don't only communicate with words we use body language, chemical signals and other unspoken cues.

some people act differently over the internet than they would in real life and misunderstandings are more common.

as for the thread I pulled your response out of. some people think they're more compassionate than God by twisting scripture to make hell and God into what they want it to be instead of what God says it is.

it helps that they don't acutally believe Satan is a real being. I decided to ignore their questions because they are yet to answer any of my previous ones.

2 Thessalonians 2:9-11

New King James Version (NKJV)

9 The coming of the lawless one is according to the working of Satan, with all power, signs, and lying wonders, 10 and with all unrighteous deception among those who perish, because they did not receive the love of the truth, that they might be saved. 11 And for this reason God will send them strong delusion, that they should believe the lie,

 

[Kefa52]

For me, sometimes what seems like an argument from me is pride.... " I must be rite"

 

[crossnote]

The Church is the Body of Christ, a community of believers, so in essence, I think the forums fit the description nicely. Thanks!

nawww, very little accountability, besides the singing is pretty bad on the forum and no Communion.

 

[Kefa52]

If you think this is crazy. Go The live chat Lounge. Some nights it is very uhmmm lively?