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Whassup said:
Well, I don't get sick based on the following.... which has nothing to do with the gifts you are speaking of which are for ministry to others

Romans 8:11
But IF the Spirit of Him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you (allowed to live in us), He that raised up Jesus Christ from the dead shall also quicken (energize, make alive) your mortal body by His Spirit that lives in you. (see 2 Corinthians 3:17 – where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty, freedom!)

1 Peter 2:24
Jesus carried our sins in his own body on the cross, so that we, being dead to sin, should live unto righteousness: by whose stripes you were healed.

Matthew 8:17
That it might be fulfilled which was spoken by Esaias the prophet, saying, Himself took our infirmities, and bare our sicknesses.

Isaiah 53:4, 5
Jesus has carried our grief (pain, anxiety, calamity, disease, sickness), and carried our sorrows (anguish, affliction, feelings of pain, sadness and sorrow): yet we did esteem Him stricken, smitten of God, and afflicted....but He was wounded (to wound, to break, be slain or killed) for our transgressions, He was bruised (crush, destroy, oppress, to collapse) for our iniquities: the punishment (violence, rebuke) of our peace was upon Him; and with His stripes we are healed. (He took our wounds, so we could take his wholeness & health in every area of life)

Proverbs 4:20-23
Attend to My words; incline your ear unto My sayings....let them not depart from your eyes; keep them in the midst of your heart....for they are life unto those that find them, and health to all their flesh....keep your heart with all diligence; for out of it flow the forces of life.

James 5:15
The prayer of faith shall save the sick (from being sick!)

Exodus 23:24-26
You shall not bow down to their gods, nor serve them, nor do their works: but you shall utterly overthrow them, and destroy their images.
And you shall serve Adonai your God, and He shall bless your food and drink; and I will take sickness away from the midst of you.
There shall nothing cast their young, nor be barren, in thy land: and you will live out the full span of your lives.
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Gee not one of those are gifts of healing. Ive already refuted the poorly notion that the authors intention in mind was physical healing. Legit the only one is James 5 and even that is done by elders of the church not any joe blow.
 
nowyouseem033 said:
Dont give that credit to Satan. Satan didnt say those words I DID.

Well if it doesnt end well and im suffering in pain then I will still sing praises and worship him and give glory fo his goodness he has shown me. Nothing i deserve. While you ll blackmail God by saying that this cant happen and you must heal me. Wouldnt it be funny if God didnt answer your prayer. How disillusioned will you be.
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Yes, you did... and satan says the same stuff so you got it from him.

Jesus had already paid for healing, it's a done deal... all that's left is learning how to receive it.

Healing was God's idea in the first place, I'm not even asking Him to heal me.. I'm simply receiving what Jesus paid for me to have and it's wonder that He would provide for me like this.
 
nowyouseem033 said:
Gee not one of those are gifts of healing. Ive already refuted the poorly notion that the authors intention in mind was physical healing. Legit the only one is James 5 and even that is done by elders of the church not any joe blow.
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Proof of the pudding brutha bro man... well over 2 decades I have not been sick... you are wrong where MY life is concerned, but apparently you are RIGHT where your life is concerned. Enjoy!

That's what Benny Hinn taught, they're all little gods....pathetic.
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What are you??? A little devil?
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Whassup said:
Yes, you did... and satan says the same stuff so you got it from him.

Jesus had already paid for healing, it's a done deal... all that's left is learning how to receive it.

Healing was God's idea in the first place, I'm not even asking Him to heal me.. I'm simply receiving what Jesus paid for me to have and it's wonder that He would provide for me like this.
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You claim you are healed. But you are still very sick with pride and condemnation.
 
Whassup said:
Proof of the pudding brutha bro man... well over 2 decades I have not been sick... you are wrong where MY life is concerned, but apparently you are RIGHT where your life is concerned. Enjoy!



What are you??? A little devil?
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Hey i havent been sick either. Im healthy as you can get.
And i guess those millions other sick and suffering Christians lack faith right? There a healthy sinners at your age so your point is pathetic. Really just pathetic. If thats the best you got then even sinners would be laughing at you. You DO NOT DETeRMINE TRUTH. i dont care about your experiences to be honest i care about sound doctrine and right teaching. So dont mention it because i too am just as healthy.
 
You claim you are healed. But you are still very sick with pride and condemnation.
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That's your errouneous opinion and you are welcome to it. Thank you for sharing.


i care about sound doctrine and right teaching
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Obviously you do not... if you did, you would accept God's promises concerning healing.

Yeah, you may be healthy now... but satan is going to test you and if you continue rehecting God's prioomises on healing you are going to be in a bad way when you learn medical science is like gambling... many lose.

I guess your defending Benny Hinn
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No, he's a false teacher... just like the majority of TV preachers.

Trying to defect attention away from God's promises eh???
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Whassup said:
That's your errouneous opinion and you are welcome to it. Thank you for sharing.




Obviously you do not... if you did, you would accept God's promises concerning healing.

Yeah, you may be healthy now... but satan is going to test you and if you continue rehecting God's prioomises on healing you are going to be in a bad way when you learn medical science is like gambling... many lose.
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OH BOO HOO the worst Satan can do to me is kill me via a slow and painful death. In fact it wont be new because there are hundreds of Chistians who ae going through that right now. And yet theyre FAITH remains FIRM.
 
the worst Satan can do to me is kill me via a slow and painful death
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Yes, and if you are actually saved than the Lord will have to wipe away the tears from your eyes when you discover Jesus paid for you to be well... and you rejected His provision while on Club Earth.

Oh well... oops
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You know Whassup, you keep bragging about being well for 30 years. I guess you got suckered in WoF a long time ago!

My mom is 87 and also extremely healthy. Catch is, she wasn't even saved till a few years ago, when my husband and I led her to the Lord!

So is she healthy because she named and claimed it, or because she had good genes and a healthy environment?

I would say your health is likely the same as my mom's. So consider yourself blessed, and pray God doesn't strike you down for your arrogance and cruelty. Jesus was clear people would know we were his disciples by our love, not by signs and wonders. In fact Jesus condemned those who looked for signs!
 
so what does someone 'living their best life now' have to look forward to in the next one . . . ?
 
I am sorry for my low practical question, disturbing your theological debate...:

Is there any medically proved miraculous healing performed by Hinn, Kulman, Hagin or others?

Not just claims, but proofs.

Medical records before and after where it is clear that cancer or whatever disappeared without any medical treatment after these people of faith prayed for them, fell them to the floor and claimed them healed.

I know many people tried to collect such evidences and nobody was able to find even one.
 
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Whassup said:
Well, I don't get sick based on the following.... which has nothing to do with the gifts you are speaking of which are for ministry to others

Romans 8:11
But IF the Spirit of Him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you (allowed to live in us), He that raised up Jesus Christ from the dead shall also quicken (energize, make alive) your mortal body by His Spirit that lives in you. (see 2 Corinthians 3:17 – where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty, freedom!)

1 Peter 2:24
Jesus carried our sins in his own body on the cross, so that we, being dead to sin, should live unto righteousness: by whose stripes you were healed.

Matthew 8:17
That it might be fulfilled which was spoken by Esaias the prophet, saying, Himself took our infirmities, and bare our sicknesses.

Isaiah 53:4, 5
Jesus has carried our grief (pain, anxiety, calamity, disease, sickness), and carried our sorrows (anguish, affliction, feelings of pain, sadness and sorrow): yet we did esteem Him stricken, smitten of God, and afflicted....but He was wounded (to wound, to break, be slain or killed) for our transgressions, He was bruised (crush, destroy, oppress, to collapse) for our iniquities: the punishment (violence, rebuke) of our peace was upon Him; and with His stripes we are healed. (He took our wounds, so we could take his wholeness & health in every area of life)

Proverbs 4:20-23
Attend to My words; incline your ear unto My sayings....let them not depart from your eyes; keep them in the midst of your heart....for they are life unto those that find them, and health to all their flesh....keep your heart with all diligence; for out of it flow the forces of life.

James 5:15
The prayer of faith shall save the sick (from being sick!)

Exodus 23:24-26
You shall not bow down to their gods, nor serve them, nor do their works: but you shall utterly overthrow them, and destroy their images.
And you shall serve Adonai your God, and He shall bless your food and drink; and I will take sickness away from the midst of you.
There shall nothing cast their young, nor be barren, in thy land: and you will live out the full span of your lives.
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Most of those apply to spiritual wellness and how the Holy Spirit heals us TODAY spiritually.


Interesting how you accuse others of cherrypicking yet are guilty of it yourself.

You ignore all the scriptures about tribulations as if they don't apply to you. You ignore that Timothy had stomach issues and many other examples of bodily suffering.

We are told people who are sick should have the elders pray for them. This is good, but people can't assume that people are sick because of their "lack of faith" in their own health.

We are to have faith in Jesus. He promises death to these temporal tents and life everlasting in eternal resurrected bodies.

You can rant and rave and call others names, but God knows His people.

So we will leave it all in His hands.

God why do WOF folks sound so much like Job's three deceived friends?
 
trofimus said:
I am sorry for my low practical question, disturbing your theological debate...:

Is there any medically proved miraculous healing performed by Hinn, Kulman, Hagin or others?

Not just claims, but proofs.

Medical records before and after where it is clear that cancer or whatever disappeared without any medical treatment after these people of faith prayed for them, fell them to the floor and claimed them healed.

I know many people tried to collect such evidences and nobody was able to find even one.
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Even if there was "proof". Jesus tells us this:

Matthew 7:22 ►
New International Version
Many will say to me on that day, 'Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons and in your name perform many miracles?'
Then I will tell them plainly, 'I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!'
 
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