Word of faith

[Jordon]

Just so I will remember yesterday! HAND

I you've got to hand it to him hold your hands up, God has given us every seed in the the world to ease any suffering.
Take up gardening build a green house and water his seeds each day and spend a couple of hour in the sun each day.

And if the lord wills it you'll get a good harvest

 

[Citizen]

I did some more research on the wof and yeah it seems that their core beliefs are for the most part corrupted but some of the things they teach such as standing in the authority Christ gave us are solid not all of it is bad

Matt 7:21 “Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one who does the will of My Father who is in heaven will enter. 22 Many will say to Me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in Your name, and in Your name cast out demons, and in Your name perform many miracles?’ 23 And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; leave Me, you who practice lawlessness.’

 

[Ouch]

You can have a mountain of faith, but if isn’t God’s will you are wasting time.

Isaiah 53:5 But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed.

Looks to me like it is, it says WE ARE HEALED.

 

[Blade]

I like what the late Chuck Missler would say many times "don't believe me don' t take my word for this you study you pray you seek you find this truth for your self". What has always since I was 16 been in my heart is what that bible study would tell you "if we say anything that is not in the word of God do not believe us".

At 16y old.. something that has always been in me since then is what they said at the bible study at the start "if we say anything that is not in the word of God do not believe us".

Nothing else to say.. haha just thinking I'm 64 and all this is not new. Its just puts something between us and Him. Ever word we speak matters and we will answer to Him. So I learned to not touch His kids since He never put me over them. I am not one of the 12 that had a right to speak. No one has to listen to me no none. I am no ones god. My sin my faults my silly doctrines that do not touch salvation are no different them any one elses. So I have a choice to try to control to change others to be like me to believe like I do or.. show me tell me oh let me hear all the good He is and has done in your life.

Know this... there are many like me that if you miss it need healing anything .. there are those out there praying for you never against. I found something today I went as I always try to do something some said this other person never talked about or said. I found it.. could read it hear it yet.. they lied or mislead or.. well I don't know why some do this. Christ in you.... see the good they do know you are not here to control or change them. He didn't put them over you. They have a family kids or grand kids.. speak word of life .. if they are wrong missing it stand in the gap for them pray for them. Don't forget where the battel really is.

Love.. what does love see and not see? Its HIM His kids His creation not ours. I was grafted in and when you seen were shown so much grace and mercy.. .oh you do the same.

 

[Inquisitor]

So I am curious about this subject, See when I was in the hospital they had someone there to sit with me to keep an eye on me and they were a wof believer and they were telling me how the wof belief puts faith into action and he said to declare something in faith with authority is how one gets to see the works of God in action

But to be honest and this part depending on how you look at it may have been woppf in action I wanted to learn if it was actually biblical and no longer had I said this a code blue happened meaning someone stopped breathing and was dying and almost as if by instinct as the nurses were running to where the code blue was taking place I declared for the person to breath again and no sooner had I done this the code blue stopped.

This was either a coincidence or it was truly faith in action but then it got me thinking what if I diddn't have enough faith in that instance? would that person had died? and what about others who may want to believe in wof but nothing ever happens does that mean they simply didn't have enough faith? and if this is the case then wouldn't the wof belief actually cause them to have doubts because they apparently didn't have enough faith? wouldn't that be damaging to their confidence?

Blah, blah, blah.

1 Corinthians 4:20
For the kingdom of God does not consist in words but in power.

Anyone read the scripture lately?

 

[Jordon]

Blah, blah, blah.

1 Corinthians 4:20
For the kingdom of God does not consist in words but in power.

Anyone read the scripture lately?

For I tell you man shall not live by bread alone but every word that proceeds out of the lords mouth.

Because his word is alive and active, and his word carries healing and will power

 

[GWH]

Isaiah 53:5 But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed.

Looks to me like it is, it says WE ARE HEALED.

Obviously referring to ultimate perfect health in heaven for WHO ARE SAVED,
because they satisfy GRFS of depending on Messiah's atonement for salvation (cf. Matt. 13:14-15).

 

[Ouch]

Obviously referring to ultimate perfect health in heaven for WHO ARE SAVED,
because they satisfy GRFS of depending on Messiah's atonement for salvation (cf. Matt. 13:14-15).

WHAT?????

JESUS was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed.

So when those who have been reborn, belive, repented, baptized in JESUS name and have been filled with the Holy GHost like Acts 2:4 when those people get to heaven they will be healed????

Why did EVERYONE JESUS touch get healed and why did HE say we will do more than HE?

Do you really think HIS will is for us to be sick????

 

[GWH]

WHAT?????

JESUS was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed.

So when those who have been reborn, belive, repented, baptized in JESUS name and have been filled with the Holy GHost like Acts 2:4 when those people get to heaven they will be healed????

Why did EVERYONE JESUS touch get healed and why did HE say we will do more than HE?

Do you really think HIS will is for us to be sick????

It is obvious that God allows everyone to be sick and die in order to teach them their need for His salvation/heaven,
which was foreshadowed and signified by Jesus, sometimes by miraculous healing, but always via miraculous loving
(cf. Matt. 8:16-17, 9:5-6 12-13, 16:8-12, John 6:26-27 & 51, 12:27, 18:37, 1 Cor. 13).

 

[Ouch]

It is obvious that God allows everyone to be sick and die in order to teach them their need for His salvation/heaven,
which was foreshadowed and signified by Jesus, sometimes by miraculous healing, but always via miraculous loving
(cf. Matt. 8:16-17, 9:5-6 12-13, 16:8-12, John 6:26-27 & 51, 12:27, 18:37, 1 Cor. 13).

Do you know everything?

It is obvious that everyone dies, but not obvious that HE will not heal the sick.

Can anyone show you something in HIS word that you don't know?

 

[Jordon]

It is obvious that God allows everyone to be sick and die in order to teach them their need for His salvation/heaven,
which was foreshadowed and signified by Jesus, sometimes by miraculous healing, but always via miraculous loving
(cf. Matt. 8:16-17, 9:5-6 12-13, 16:8-12, John 6:26-27 & 51, 12:27, 18:37, 1 Cor. 13).

I'm not convinced God allows it to be honest, I fall in line with he allows us to make the right choice but not the wrong one.

But I wonder if your being facetious.

 

[GWH]

Do you know everything?

It is obvious that everyone dies, but not obvious that HE will not heal the sick.

Can anyone show you something in HIS word that you don't know?

Well, I learned GW for 74 years before joining CC and for another year after joining CC last October, so you may wish me happy CC anniversary. Not sure how long I have been learning from your posts—about three months?

 

[Blain]

Matt 7:21 “Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one who does the will of My Father who is in heaven will enter. 22 Many will say to Me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in Your name, and in Your name cast out demons, and in Your name perform many miracles?’ 23 And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; leave Me, you who practice lawlessness.’

What is the point you are trying to make by taking this verse out of context like that? Like what are you trying to say?

 

[Blain]

Blah, blah, blah.

1 Corinthians 4:20
For the kingdom of God does not consist in words but in power.

Anyone read the scripture lately?

Yes I have and the scriptures say this
Romans 10:8
KJ21
But what saith it? “The Word is nigh thee, even in thy mouth and in thy heart,” that is, the word of faith which we preach:
Now what word of faith were they preaching?

 

[Citizen]

What is the point you are trying to make by taking this verse out of context like that? Like what are you trying to say?

Is it really not obvious? It's completely applicable to WOF. It also proves beyond doubt that miracles and prophecy aren't always of God, exactly as He warned many times over about false prophets, false teachers, and false miracles.

 

[Ouch]

Well, I learned GW for 74 years before joining CC and for another year after joining CC last October, so you may wish me happy CC anniversary. Not sure how long I have been learning from your posts—about three months?

Happy anniversary, but belong to CC doesn't get you saved.

74 years of studying doesn't get you saved.

You have to do something that HIS word says to be saved.

Out of GOD'S word that I shared was there something new, or something that you changed your mind about?

Or all that I shared and challenge you was in vain?

 

[GWH]

Happy anniversary, but belong to CC doesn't get you saved.

74 years of studying doesn't get you saved.

You have to do something that HIS word says to be saved.

Out of GOD'S word that I shared was there something new, or something that you changed your mind about?

Or all that I shared and challenge you was in vain?

Thanks.
What does CC get you?
74 years of LGW doesn't get you unsaved.
We MFWers know GRFS.
No, but I learned more about the Actsist denomination from you.
So, what you shared was not in vain, but what I shared was.

 

[Ouch]

Thanks.
What does CC get you?
74 years of LGW doesn't get you unsaved.
We MFWers know GRFS.
No, but I learned more about the Actsist denomination from you.
So, what you shared was not in vain, but what I shared was.

Thanks.
What does CC get you?
74 years of LGW doesn't get you unsaved.
We MFWers know GRFS.
No, but I learned more about the Actsist denomination from you.
So, what you shared was not in vain, but what I shared was.

Thank you, but I did not share anything denominational, ONLY HIS WORD.

Wonder how long those poor foke that JESUS throw in HELL in Matthew 7 was working for him.

I bet they were surprised to find out all the work they did and JESUS NEVER KNEW THEM, ALL OF THEM. That is sad.

I see a lot of people here who will not accept HIS WORD, same as I do when I'm on different sights, I don't get much hope but will continue planting those seeds.

Someone may be humble to be able to accept JESUS and HIS WORDS.

I helped you understand the JESUS ascended twice.

I helped you understand the earth is less that 2000 years old.

I helped you understand there is only one way to be saved.

I helped you understand the Spirit baptism DID NOT replace water baptism.

I helped you realize that the only way to get rid of our sins is being baptized in JESUS name.

I helped you understand when you get filled with the Holy Ghost you will speak in tongues, AND it's for today.

I helped you understand that Paul NEVER tells how to be reborn.

 

[GWH]

Thank you, but I did not share anything denominational, ONLY HIS WORD.
Wonder how long those poor foke that JESUS throw in HELL in Matthew 7 was working for him.
I bet they were surprised to find out all the work they did and JESUS NEVER KNEW THEM, ALL OF THEM. That is sad.
I see a lot of people here who will not accept HIS WORD, same as I do when I'm on different sights, I don't get much hope but will continue planting those seeds.

Someone may be humble to be able to accept JESUS and HIS WORDS.
I helped you understand the JESUS ascended twice.
I helped you understand the earth is less that 2000 years old.
I helped you understand there is only one way to be saved.
I helped you understand the Spirit baptism DID NOT replace water baptism.
I helped you realize that the only way to get rid of our sins is being baptized in JESUS name.
I helped you understand when you get filled with the Holy Ghost you will speak in tongues, AND it's for today.
I helped you understand that Paul NEVER tells how to be reborn.

Your opinion regarding GW plus those who agree is equivalent to a denomination's opinion.

Whether evil people are surprised by justice and thus less blameworthy is an interesting question.

I also see some here who reject GW.

You helped me understand what you believe.

 

[Blain]

Is it really not obvious? It's completely applicable to WOF. It also proves beyond doubt that miracles and prophecy aren't always of God, exactly as He warned many times over about false prophets, false teachers, and false miracles.

Ok and which part in my post does this verse apply to? I am not saying I am following the wof I am saying there is a bit of truth to it as far as the authority in Christ and faith part goes because I have seen it in action.

I mean what do you think I sent a demon back to hell by demonic power?Yes I understand the wof doctrine is bad but there is a nugget of truth to it not to make God do our will or receive finincial blessings or anything but to stand in faith and in authority that Christ himself gave us