Worldy and empty chatter

[Pamella]

kenophónia: empty talk
Original Word: κενοφωνία, ας, ἡ
Part of Speech: Noun, Feminine
Transliteration: kenophónia
Phonetic Spelling: (ken-of-o-nee'-ah)
Short Definition: empty disputing, worthless babble
Definition: empty disputing, worthless babble.
NAS Exhaustive Concordance
Word Origin
from kenos and phóneó
Definition
empty talk
NASB Translation
empty chatter (2).

Thayer's Greek Lexicon
STRONGS NT 2757: κνοφωνια

κνοφωνια, κνοφωνιας, ἡ (κενοφωνος uttering emptiness) (vaniloquium, Vulg. (Clementine edition (in 2 Timothy 2:16))), empty discussion, discussion of vain and useless matters (A. V. babbling): 1 Timothy 6:20; 2 Timothy 2:16. ((Dioscor. 1 prooem., p. 3, 1); ecclesiastical writings.)


Strong's Exhaustive Concordance
chatter, empty talk
From a presumed compound of kenos and phone; empty sounding, i.e. Fruitless discussion -- vain.

see GREEK kenos

see GREEK phone

Forms and Transliterations
κενοφωνιας κενοφωνίας kenophonias kenophonías kenophōnias kenophōnías
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2 Occurrences

κενοφωνίας — 2 Occ.

1 Timothy 6:20 N-AFP
GRK: τὰς βεβήλους κενοφωνίας καὶ ἀντιθέσεις
NAS: worldly [and] empty chatter [and] the opposing arguments
KJV: profane [and] vain babblings, and
INT: profane empty babblings and oppositions
2 Timothy 2:16 N-AFP
GRK: δὲ βεβήλους κενοφωνίας περιίστασο ἐπὶ
NAS: worldly [and] empty chatter, for it will lead
KJV: profane [and] vain babblings: for
INT: and [the] worldly empty babblings stand aloof from to

2 Occurrences

What do make of this?

 

[FreeNChrist]

Sounds like a lot of what goes on here at CC. Just sayin'.

 

[Pamella]

Haha. Well I didn't post that to point fingers. Actually getting to 2Timothy, the apostle Paul says: 'But avoid wordly and empty chatter for it will lead to further ungodliness, and their talk will spread like gangrene. Among them are Hymenaeus and Philetus, men who have gone astray from the truth saying the resurrection has already taken place, and they upset the faith of some.' Sounds worse than the words used here. I don't know. Maybe those are different words used in the Greek. I'm not about to try and look it up. I'M too lazy right now. All I did before was google: Greek words for wordly and empty chatter, and I got that page. So that wouldn't tell me if these are supposed to be different.

 

[thepsalmist]

kenophónia: empty talk
Original Word: κενοφωνία, ας, ἡ
Part of Speech: Noun, Feminine
Transliteration: kenophónia
Phonetic Spelling: (ken-of-o-nee'-ah)
Short Definition: empty disputing, worthless babble
Definition: empty disputing, worthless babble.
NAS Exhaustive Concordance
Word Origin
from kenos and phóneó
Definition
empty talk
NASB Translation
empty chatter (2).

Thayer's Greek Lexicon
STRONGS NT 2757: κνοφωνια

κνοφωνια, κνοφωνιας, ἡ (κενοφωνος uttering emptiness) (vaniloquium, Vulg. (Clementine edition (in 2 Timothy 2:16))), empty discussion, discussion of vain and useless matters (A. V. babbling): 1 Timothy 6:20; 2 Timothy 2:16. ((Dioscor. 1 prooem., p. 3, 1); ecclesiastical writings.)


Strong's Exhaustive Concordance
chatter, empty talk
From a presumed compound of kenos and phone; empty sounding, i.e. Fruitless discussion -- vain.

see GREEK kenos

see GREEK phone

Forms and Transliterations
κενοφωνιας κενοφωνίας kenophonias kenophonías kenophōnias kenophōnías
Links
Interlinear Greek • Interlinear Hebrew • Strong's Numbers • Englishman's Greek Concordance • Englishman's Hebrew Concordance • Parallel Texts
Englishman's Concordance
Strong's Greek 2757
2 Occurrences

κενοφωνίας — 2 Occ.

1 Timothy 6:20 N-AFP
GRK: τὰς βεβήλους κενοφωνίας καὶ ἀντιθέσεις
NAS: worldly [and] empty chatter [and] the opposing arguments
KJV: profane [and] vain babblings, and
INT: profane empty babblings and oppositions
2 Timothy 2:16 N-AFP
GRK: δὲ βεβήλους κενοφωνίας περιίστασο ἐπὶ
NAS: worldly [and] empty chatter, for it will lead
KJV: profane [and] vain babblings: for
INT: and [the] worldly empty babblings stand aloof from to

2 Occurrences

What do make of this?

When I was first reborn I basically became a hermit because of this. I didn't want to talk about anything that didn't include God or lead to the subject of God. Almost everything else, as far as I understand it, is mindless chatter. Even though I have mellowed greatly since ... to tolerate it ... I still prefer meaningful discussion about God. I'm a little less salty about that now - realizing that if I bear it a little bit- they might hear a thing or two that I slip in about God. I definitely feel like an alien in a strange land.

 

[Magenta]

When I was first reborn I basically became a hermit because of this. I didn't want to talk about anything that didn't include God or lead to the subject of God. Almost everything else, as far as I understand it, is mindless chatter. Even though I have mellowed greatly since ... to tolerate it ... I still prefer meaningful discussion about God. I'm a little less salty about that now - realizing that if I bear it a little bit- they might hear a thing or two that I slip in about God. I definitely feel like an alien in a strange land.

I was thinking along the same lines, for "ken" is the range of one's
knowledge (I assume worldly), and phonia relates to sound...

 

[HeRoseFromTheDead]

When I was first reborn I basically became a hermit because of this. I didn't want to talk about anything that didn't include God or lead to the subject of God. Almost everything else, as far as I understand it, is mindless chatter. Even though I have mellowed greatly since ... to tolerate it ... I still prefer meaningful discussion about God. I'm a little less salty about that now - realizing that if I bear it a little bit- they might hear a thing or two that I slip in about God. I definitely feel like an alien in a strange land.

I know whatcha mean. I at one time sought only the purity, the voice. Everything else was banished. Then I got baptized into suffering. Now I just sort of take it as it comes.

 

[thepsalmist]

I know whatcha mean. I at one time sought only the purity, the voice. Everything else was banished. Then I got baptized into suffering. Now I just sort of take it as it comes.

Nods ... wouldn't it be nice to just remain alone in the wilderness with God?

But a light should not be hidden under a bed ...

and so ... here I am ... (sheepish grin)

 

[thepsalmist]

I know whatcha mean. I at one time sought only the purity, the voice. Everything else was banished. Then I got baptized into suffering. Now I just sort of take it as it comes.

I may have assumed too much ... what do you mean you were baptized into suffering?

 

[Willie-T]

I know whatcha mean. I at one time sought only the purity, the voice. Everything else was banished. Then I got baptized into suffering. Now I just sort of take it as it comes.

I may have assumed too much ... what do you mean you were baptized into suffering?

That surprises you? I'd have been surprised if I DIDN'T hear that from him. LOL

 

[BeyondET]

Worldly and empty chatter and empty chatter Worldy... G@

 

[Persuaded]

Guilty!
Work has been slow this spring and I have spent way to much time on this forum.

 

[Tintin]

What do I make of it? I don't know. It's all Greek to me.