Yasser Arafat polonium poisoning

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Yasser Arafat polonium poisoning could not have been accidental, Swiss lab says

LAUSANNE, Switzerland (AP) -- Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat ingested lethal radioactive polonium before his death nine years ago and had high levels of it in his body that could not have been accidental, Swiss scientists confirmed Thursday.
The Swiss lab examined Arafat's remains and his underclothes and a travel bag that he had with him in the days before his death in a Paris hospital and found that the polonium and lead amounts could not be naturally occurring. The timeframe of his illness and death were also consistent with polonium poisoning, they said.

Read more: Swiss lab finds Yasser Arafat poisoned with polonium, could not have been accidental | CTV News

Lee Harvey Oswalds ghost did it.
 
It has taken nine years just to establish what they already knew from his urine sample and clothes when he died. I wonder if they keep hitting road blocks with this investigation.
 
It has taken nine years just to establish what they already knew from his urine sample and clothes when he died. I wonder if they keep hitting road blocks with this investigation.

i wonder who might have poisoned him:confused:
 
The Russians are known to favor this method.

The US and the Brits usually go with something a bit more dramatic. Shock and awe and all that.
 
The Russians are known to favor this method.

The US and the Brits usually go with something a bit more dramatic. Shock and awe and all that.

Anyone that has nuclear weapons or nuclear power would be at the top of the list. Narrows the suspects down a bit.

The US went from messy killings to suicides, lately they seem to go more for accidents such as plane crashes.

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Anyone that has nuclear weapons or nuclear power would be at the top of the list. Narrows the suspects down a bit.

The US went from messy killings to suicides, lately they seem to go more for accidents such as plane crashes.

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right...Da Russians....ya...they're known for this sort of thing:)
they certainly would be at the top of the list.

N. Korea? probably.

likely suspect would be Hamas.
close proximity and whatnot.

very very likely would be the Palestinians subverting the peace process.

maybe Osama Bin Laden did it.
 
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hmm....see it's this kind of talk that makes ya go....HUH?
what if the Moss.....er....some unknown entity put polonium in your president's tea?

all "good"?

right...Da Russians....ya...they're known for this sort of thing:)
they certainly would be at the top of the list.

N. Korea? probably.

likely suspect would be Hamas.
close proximity and whatnot.

very very likely would be the Palestinians subverting the peace process.

maybe Osama Bin Laden did it.

Israel could. I'm pretty sure the others you list are sarcastic. But in all honestly in this case I am thinking Russians. They are the worlds number one exporter of polonium, and the US is their only buyer. They've used it before, and at the time of Arafat's death, the Russians didn't have any idea they had the oil they have.

I think this was just more blood for oil, or business as usual in the middle east. That doesn't make it right (or even rational, there is plenty of oil in the US, in Russia, and now the Aussies have found it too). Add in natural gas and we should just abandon the middle eastern oil altogether.

But Polonium, you need a nuclear program to make it. It took a bit of digging but this seems to be the production process.

Due to its scarcity, polonium is usually produced by bombarding bismuth-209 with neutrons in a nuclear reactor. This forms bismuth-210, which has a half-life of 5 days. Bismuth-210 decays into polonium-210 through beta decay. Milligram amounts of polonium-210 have been produced by this method.
 
But Polonium, you need a nuclear program to make it. It took a bit of digging but this seems to be the production process.

Due to its scarcity, polonium is usually produced by bombarding bismuth-209 with neutrons in a nuclear reactor. This forms bismuth-210, which has a half-life of 5 days. Bismuth-210 decays into polonium-210 through beta decay. Milligram amounts of polonium-210 have been produced by this method.


Israel’s Lethal History with Polonium
by RICHARD SILVERSTEIN

With news breaking in Al Jazeera this week about the possible poisoning of Yasser Arafat by polonium, I thought it worthwhile to examine an interesting line in Clayton Swisher’s report, which refers to an accident in an Israeli lab involving the material. Through further research, I discovered that this was the first nuclear accident in Israeli history and it took the lives of a number of Israeli researchers, both immediately after the accident and even decades later.

This report by Haaretz’s Akiva Eldar is based on Michael Karpin’s book, The Bomb in the Basement: How Israel Went Nuclear and What That Means for the World:

Dr. Dror Sadeh: One of earliest victims of Israeli polonium poisoning, died of cancer at age 60 after major 1957 radiation leak
According to the book, in 1957 a leak was discovered at a Weizmann Institute laboratory operated by the Atomic Energy Commission (AEC). Traces of polonium 210 were found on the hands of Prof. Dror Sadeh, a physicist who researched radioactive materials, as well as on various objects in the professor’s home. The AEC handled the accident with deep secrecy. After a short investigation, whose results were not presented to even the workers, the lab was hermetically sealed for several months.

Israel’s Lethal History with Polonium Tikun-Olam Tikun Olam-תיקון עולם

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Swiss Scientists Confirm Arafat Murdered by Polonium
by RICHARD SILVERSTEIN on NOVEMBER 7, 2013

Yesterday, the PA and scientists who studied the skeletal remains of Yasser Arafat confirmed (full scientific report here) that he was assassinated, poisoned with the highest dose of polonium ever recorded in a human being. The level was either 18 or 36 times the normal level (depending on how one counts a normal dose). The scientists rated the certainty of their findings on a scale of 1 to 6, giving the results a 5 score, meaning they had an 83% level of confidence.

Haaretz journalist, Danny Rubinstein, who wrote an earlier book about Arafat, spent many hours interviewing Israelis officials. He says that they were obsessed with destroying Arafat’s political credibility and ultimately getting rid of him:

In the weeks and months before Arafat’s death, he [Rubinstein] said, people in Sharon’s inner circle talked constantly about how to get rid of him. “For me, it was very clear from the beginning. Every day this was the topic – should we expel him, or kill him, or bomb the Muqata [Arafat's HQ]. It was obvious to me that they would find a way.”

In September, 2003, Israeli vice-premier Ehud Olmert had told Israel Radio virtually the same thing, that murder was definitely under consideration:

“Killing [him] is definitely one of the options.”

Even as unlikely a source as Jeffrey Goldberg provides supporting evidence confirming Sharon’s enthusiasm for offing Arafat:

[Those in] the Israeli government [who deny Israeli leaders wanted to kill Arafat] should remember that it was the official policy of several past Israeli leaders to try to kill Arafat…I had several conversations on the subject of assassinating Arafat with his principal Israeli nemesis, Ariel Sharon, and today’s report sent me back to a profile I wrote of Sharon that appeared 12 years ago:

“…By Arafat’s own count, Sharon has tried to have him killed thirteen times. Sharon wouldn’t fix on a number, but he said the opportunity had arisen repeatedly. ‘All the governments of Israel for many years, Labor, Likud, all of them, made an effort — and I want to use a subtle word for the American reader — to remove him from our society. We never succeeded.’”

Swiss Scientists Confirm Arafat Murdered by Polonium Tikun-Olam Tikun Olam-תיקון עולם

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The Dimona Plutonium Nuclear Reactor
The Dimona Plutonium Nuclear Reactor

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Who has died from it?
In addition to Litvinenko’s presumed death from polonium poisoning, some speculate that the Curies’ daughter Irene, who died of leukemia, may have developed the disease after accidentally being exposed to polonium in the laboratory. Israeli author Michal Karpin has claimed the cancer deaths of several Israeli scientists were the result of a polonium leak at the Weizmann Institute of Science in 1957. Israeli officials have never acknowledged a connection.

Everything you need to know about polonium, the rare element allegedly used to poison Yasser Arafat - The Globe and Mail


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The head of a Russian forensics agency said on Tuesday that samples from the body of Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat had revealed no traces of radioactive polonium, a Russian news agency reported.

However, the government scientific body later denied that it had made any official statement about the research, saying only that it had handed its results to the Russian Foreign Ministry.

Russian official rules out Arafat polonium poisoning | Israel | Jewish Journal

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Yasser Arafat polonium poisoning no accident, lab says
Scientists confirm widow's belief that Arafat poisoned
The Associated Press Posted: Nov 07, 2013 10:55 AM ET Last Updated: Nov 07, 2013 12:54 PM ET

"Can we exclude polonium as cause of death? The response is clearly `no,' he said. "Was polonium the cause of the death for certain? The answer is no."

Yasser Arafat polonium poisoning no accident, lab says - World - CBC News

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so maybe it was Jack Ruby...acting alone.
 
Oh I'm familiar with the Israeli's heavy water reactor. Not sure why they'd be producing polonium though.

The pictures leaked by Mordechai Vanunu in the 80's revealed mostly weapons manufacturing activity. Pretty advanced activity at that too.
 
Oh I'm familiar with the Israeli's heavy water reactor. Not sure why they'd be producing polonium though.

The pictures leaked by Mordechai Vanunu in the 80's revealed mostly weapons manufacturing activity. Pretty advanced activity at that too.

Dr. Dror Sadeh: One of earliest victims of Israeli polonium poisoning, died of cancer at age 60 after major 1957 radiation leak
According to the book, in 1957 a leak was discovered at a Weizmann Institute laboratory operated by the Atomic Energy Commission (AEC). Traces of polonium 210 were found on the hands of Prof. Dror Sadeh, a physicist who researched radioactive materials, as well as on various objects in the professor’s home. The AEC handled the accident with deep secrecy. After a short investigation, whose results were not presented to even the workers, the lab was hermetically sealed for several months.

Israel’s Lethal History with Polonium Tikun-Olam Tikun Olam-תיקון עולם

that's all i know.
 
Dr. Dror Sadeh: One of earliest victims of Israeli polonium poisoning, died of cancer at age 60 after major 1957 radiation leak
According to the book, in 1957 a leak was discovered at a Weizmann Institute laboratory operated by the Atomic Energy Commission (AEC). Traces of polonium 210 were found on the hands of Prof. Dror Sadeh, a physicist who researched radioactive materials, as well as on various objects in the professor’s home. The AEC handled the accident with deep secrecy. After a short investigation, whose results were not presented to even the workers, the lab was hermetically sealed for several months.

Israel’s Lethal History with Polonium Tikun-Olam Tikun Olam-תיקון עולם

that's all i know.

About the polonium or about their nuclear program?

This just seems like such a roundabout way to assassinate someone. Not to mention expensive.
 
Well I tracked down what the Israelis would have wanted Polonium for.

A neutron source to help trigger the chain reaction in early nuclear weapons. Both of the bombs dropped on Japan used polonium despite different geometries.
 
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Well I tracked down what the Israelis would have wanted Polonium for.

A neutron source to help trigger the chain reaction in early nuclear weapons. Both of the bombs dropped on Japan used polonium despite different geometries.

yuck. awful.

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By Mary Bellis

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well, the US also is known to have it.

though americans sneaking into arafat's tent (or however it was done - if it was done) seems unlikely...what motive would americans have?

i don't know.