Yet another shooting

[Bob-Carabbio]

How about not letting unrehabilitated violent fellons loose on society. Then we have to do a whole prison reform and thats too much work. Its best to just torment the citizens.

And who determines whether a "Felon" has been "rehabilitated" or not (or whether a murderous non-felon will take action). Seems that the "Experts" in such matters are incapable, and since anybody who wants a gun (with the proper connections known to the criminal element) can get a gun, you've accomplished nothing (as usual). What our government, in it's ignorance, will do is try to elimite guns altogether, so that murderers will have a free reign.

SO you have no answer at all - just like everybody else.

 

[Locoponydirtman]

And who determines whether a "Felon" has been "rehabilitated" or not (or whether a murderous non-felon will take action). Seems that the "Experts" in such matters are incapable, and since anybody who wants a gun (with the proper connections known to the criminal element) can get a gun, you've accomplished nothing (as usual). What our government, in it's ignorance, will do is try to elimite guns altogether, so that murderers will have a free reign.

SO you have no answer at all - just like everybody else.

Cant argue

 

[Grace911]

And just think, All of these laws came from just Ten. 1 John 5:3 For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous.

And Jesus said the two most important laws are to love God with all your heart, soul and mind. And to love your neighbor as yourself. Of the Ten, which one is most important, which ones can we do away with, which ones are showing God we love Him?

If our people would only.....

 

[SomeDisciple]

I don't see how this is "christian news".

 

[Bob-Carabbio]

And just think, All of these laws came from just Ten. 1 John 5:3 For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous.

And Jesus said the two most important laws are to love God with all your heart, soul and mind. And to love your neighbor as yourself. Of the Ten, which one is most important, which ones can we do away with, which ones are showing God we love Him?

If our people would only.....

Nobody gets away with anything in the final analysis. The only exception, of course, are Born Again Christians, who've been cleansed of their SIN by FAITH (not "belief") in Jesus' SIN OFFERING on Calvary. "Works" (good or bad) aren't a factor in that.

 

[ButterflyJones]

We know we're in trouble and are facing the interjection of an authoritarian government, fascist even, if Congress illegally overrides the unalienable 2nd amendment.
An armed population insures a free people.

If that happens, God forbid, we'll also be threatened by the zealous anti-gun individuals. Because there will be a bounty on anyone who did not comply with surrendering their firearms.

This is why the Democrats pushed and achieved the unconstitutional gun registration law.

Because when we must register our weapons at time of purchase,not in all cases thankfully, government agents can simply print off those registrations and go door to door seizing those registered firearms.

And if we claim we don't have them they seize us.

Pray for America. 🙏🇺🇸

Our enemies are within and without.

 

[HealthAndHappiness]

We know we're in trouble and are facing the interjection of an authoritarian government, fascist even, if Congress illegally overrides the unalienable 2nd amendment.
An armed population insures a free people.

If that happens, God forbid, we'll also be threatened by the zealous anti-gun individuals. Because there will be a bounty on anyone who did not comply with surrendering their firearms.

This is why the Democrats pushed and achieved the unconstitutional gun registration law.

Because when we must register our weapons at time of purchase,not in all cases thankfully, government agents can simply print off those registrations and go door to door seizing those registered firearms.

And if we claim we don't have them they seize us.

Pray for America. 🙏🇺🇸

Our enemies are within and without.

Many people think that can't happen, yet American history is full of examples. There are millions of individual examples. Then there are the early American natives. The first gun laws in the states were to deprive black free men and women the right to bear arms. Those were prescidents for the thousands of legislative, executive usurpations of the federal and state constitutions.
More recently 90s, Californians Were commanded to register a class of rifle. They were assured that nothing else would happen later if they provided that information. Later, there were threats of imprisonment if they would not turn them in to the powers that shouldn't be. Those who refused were raided and arms stollen. Even Mr T made an illegal executive prescident. ..."Take the guns now and give due process later."

 

[ButterflyJones]

Many people think that can't happen, yet American history is full of examples. There are millions of individual examples. Then there are the early American natives. The first gun laws in the states were to deprive black free men and women the right to bear arms. Those were prescidents for the thousands of legislative, executive usurpations of the federal and state constitutions.
More recently 90s, Californians Were commanded to register a class of rifle. They were assured that nothing else would happen later if they provided that information. Later, there were threats of imprisonment if they would not turn them in to the powers that shouldn't be. Those who refused were raided and arms stollen. Even Mr T made an illegal executive prescident. ..."Take the guns now and give due process later."

When a government steals your rights never ever trust them to tell you the truth!

I know people who use to live in California. They moved asap because of Newsom and his insanity during the COVID-19 lockdown.

You know, when people were threatened to stay isolated in their homes, some in the legislature there suggested mandating masks in the privacy of your own home, and threatened churches and pastors with arrest if they didn't stop services. Then it was ok you can have services but limited parishioner numbers.

AND, the pastor had to agree to let the brown shirts access during services to insure the people were obedient to the government commands.

Then low and behold, shock! What?
It was reported that Newsom, his owners, and other Democrats, or Demonrats, as my friends there called them after this bit of news, had a huge party at the governor's mansion.
Valet parking, no masks. Not a mask one on any of the guests or Newsom.

Now that they've relocated my friends always refer to CA as Commufornia.

People look for the coming NWO, New World Order.
It's here. Has been for a long time.

It started with prosecuting our free right to speak by injecting a construct phrase, Political Correctness.

It's only evolved to devolve our free society ever sense.

The new order of things is corrupting pronouns, and God given genders. One example.

Making perverse behaviors protected by law, and those who disagree with that able to be prosecuted by law.

Child abuse is legal! In the form of gender restructuring. If a warped parent insists their child is the opposite gender, that child can be made to take pharmaceutical cocktails that transform their physiology and physical appearance to that of the opposite gender. And the victim has no legal right to object.

The NWO is a government phrase. And is of course a lie. It's actually the New World Disorder.

https://nypost.com/2019/10/23/texas...ng-to-stop-7-year-old-sons-gender-transition/

Texas! This happened in Texas! 😳


And elsewhere:
https://nypost.com/2022/02/26/dad-lost-custody-after-questioning-sons-transgender-identity/

 

[gb9]

When a government steals your rights never ever trust them to tell you the truth!

I know people who use to live in California. They moved asap because of Newsom and his insanity during the COVID-19 lockdown.

You know, when people were threatened to stay isolated in their homes, some in the legislature there suggested mandating masks in the privacy of your own home, and threatened churches and pastors with arrest if they didn't stop services. Then it was ok you can have services but limited parishioner numbers.

AND, the pastor had to agree to let the brown shirts access during services to insure the people were obedient to the government commands.

Then low and behold, shock! What?
It was reported that Newsom, his owners, and other Democrats, or Demonrats, as my friends there called them after this bit of news, had a huge party at the governor's mansion.
Valet parking, no masks. Not a mask one on any of the guests or Newsom.

Now that they've relocated my friends always refer to CA as Commufornia.

People look for the coming NWO, New World Order.
It's here. Has been for a long time.

It started with prosecuting our free right to speak by injecting a construct phrase, Political Correctness.

It's only evolved to devolve our free society ever sense.

The new order of things is corrupting pronouns, and God given genders. One example.

Making perverse behaviors protected by law, and those who disagree with that able to be prosecuted by law.

Child abuse is legal! In the form of gender restructuring. If a warped parent insists their child is the opposite gender, that child can be made to take pharmaceutical cocktails that transform their physiology and physical appearance to that of the opposite gender. And the victim has no legal right to object.

The NWO is a government phrase. And is of course a lie. It's actually the New World Disorder.

https://nypost.com/2019/10/23/texas...ng-to-stop-7-year-old-sons-gender-transition/

Texas! This happened in Texas! 😳


And elsewhere:
https://nypost.com/2022/02/26/dad-lost-custody-after-questioning-sons-transgender-identity/

very good.

 

[HealthAndHappiness]

When a government steals your rights never ever trust them to tell you the truth!

I know people who use to live in California. They moved asap because of Newsom and his insanity during the COVID-19 lockdown.

You know, when people were threatened to stay isolated in their homes, some in the legislature there suggested mandating masks in the privacy of your own home, and threatened churches and pastors with arrest if they didn't stop services. Then it was ok you can have services but limited parishioner numbers.

AND, the pastor had to agree to let the brown shirts access during services to insure the people were obedient to the government commands.

Then low and behold, shock! What?
It was reported that Newsom, his owners, and other Democrats, or Demonrats, as my friends there called them after this bit of news, had a huge party at the governor's mansion.
Valet parking, no masks. Not a mask one on any of the guests or Newsom.

Now that they've relocated my friends always refer to CA as Commufornia.

People look for the coming NWO, New World Order.
It's here. Has been for a long time.

It started with prosecuting our free right to speak by injecting a construct phrase, Political Correctness.

It's only evolved to devolve our free society ever sense.

The new order of things is corrupting pronouns, and God given genders. One example.

Making perverse behaviors protected by law, and those who disagree with that able to be prosecuted by law.

Child abuse is legal! In the form of gender restructuring. If a warped parent insists their child is the opposite gender, that child can be made to take pharmaceutical cocktails that transform their physiology and physical appearance to that of the opposite gender. And the victim has no legal right to object.

The NWO is a government phrase. And is of course a lie. It's actually the New World Disorder.

https://nypost.com/2019/10/23/texas...ng-to-stop-7-year-old-sons-gender-transition/

Texas! This happened in Texas! 😳


And elsewhere:
https://nypost.com/2022/02/26/dad-lost-custody-after-questioning-sons-transgender-identity/

It's much like Stalinist Russia or the national socialist Germany when brown shirts infiltrate the churches to demand of them obedience to the dictators.
I quit attending an evangelical church when they demanded muzzles. It's an unhealthy environment when they must breath toxic levels of CO2 and hear loud music that makes my ears ring. I won't do it.

I followed the story about the child. The Poor children have to go through such suffering because of the warped parent's sins. Then some perverted judge gets involved.
No wonder Paul tells the Corinthians to pick the least from amongst them to judge rather than to go before the world's courts.

 

[Nehemiah6]

When a government steals your rights never ever trust them to tell you the truth!

The bogus COVID pandemic gave every government in the world a golden opportunity to steal everyone's rights. But there was no massive uprising in the Western world, since the majority of people had forgotten that people have to fight for their freedoms.

"The government knows best" has been inculcated into Western populations for too long, therefore the tyrants have all succeeded. The American Revolution was designed to throw off the yoke of tyranny, but in less than 300 years tyranny has again been installed in America. And the so-called Republicans have stood by for decades doing absolutely nothing to preserve freedoms and democracy. Just look at their current behavior in view of what is actually going on. THEY ARE LITERALLY AIDING AND ABETTING THE DOMESTIC ENEMIES!

 

[ButterflyJones]

The bogus COVID pandemic gave every government in the world a golden opportunity to steal everyone's rights. But there was no massive uprising in the Western world, since the majority of people had forgotten that people have to fight for their freedoms.

"The government knows best" has been inculcated into Western populations for too long, therefore the tyrants have all succeeded. The American Revolution was designed to throw off the yoke of tyranny, but in less than 300 years tyranny has again been installed in America. And the so-called Republicans have stood by for decades doing absolutely nothing to preserve freedoms and democracy. Just look at their current behavior in view of what is actually going on. THEY ARE LITERALLY AIDING AND ABETTING THE DOMESTIC ENEMIES!

Please! They are the domestic enemies.

 

[HealthAndHappiness]

When a government steals your rights never ever trust them to tell you the truth!

I know people who use to live in California. They moved asap because of Newsom and his insanity during the COVID-19 lockdown.

You know, when people were threatened to stay isolated in their homes, some in the legislature there suggested mandating masks in the privacy of your own home, and threatened churches and pastors with arrest if they didn't stop services. Then it was ok you can have services but limited parishioner numbers.

AND, the pastor had to agree to let the brown shirts access during services to insure the people were obedient to the government commands.

Then low and behold, shock! What?
It was reported that Newsom, his owners, and other Democrats, or Demonrats, as my friends there called them after this bit of news, had a huge party at the governor's mansion.
Valet parking, no masks. Not a mask one on any of the guests or Newsom.

Now that they've relocated my friends always refer to CA as Commufornia.

People look for the coming NWO, New World Order.
It's here. Has been for a long time.

It started with prosecuting our free right to speak by injecting a construct phrase, Political Correctness.

It's only evolved to devolve our free society ever sense.

The new order of things is corrupting pronouns, and God given genders. One example.

Making perverse behaviors protected by law, and those who disagree with that able to be prosecuted by law.

Child abuse is legal! In the form of gender restructuring. If a warped parent insists their child is the opposite gender, that child can be made to take pharmaceutical cocktails that transform their physiology and physical appearance to that of the opposite gender. And the victim has no legal right to object.

The NWO is a government phrase. And is of course a lie. It's actually the New World Disorder.

https://nypost.com/2019/10/23/texas...ng-to-stop-7-year-old-sons-gender-transition/

Texas! This happened in Texas! 😳


And elsewhere:
https://nypost.com/2022/02/26/dad-lost-custody-after-questioning-sons-transgender-identity/

Even Texas is full of homos in high places.
They get motivated by money, power, and "the cause". It's the one place they can get back at the men they despise and eliminate families.
This was a dream come true for this reprobate. Here's a quote from the article you posted.

"Judge Hiramoto never disclosed to the parties that she is a mother to a transgender child whose transition she publicly supported on social media. Under ethical standards for judges, she almost certainly should have disclosed this. But even had she recused herself, it might not have changed the outcome. Gender activists now regularly provide “training” to family court judges in many states touting the purported benefits of gender medicine for kids with little discussion of the risks or the existence of prominent critics within the medical community."

 

[HopeinHim98]

I quit attending an evangelical church when they demanded muzzles. It's an unhealthy environment when they must breath toxic levels of CO2 and hear loud music that makes my ears ring. I won't do it.

 

[Gideon300]

Humans have been killing eachother from when Cain killed Able. Its a tradgic thing but humanity is fallen into sin. There is no human law able to stop this. Goveco is part of the problem not the answer. Community and looking out for eachother is. God said love thy neighbor. Man says make laws.

True. However, enabling people to own semi automatic weapons, that have 50 round magazines, enables murderers to kill en mass. I've never advocated eliminating guns from society. It's impossible. Eliminating guns that would be better in the hands of trained military personnel is possible. It's been done in Australia. It works in practice.

Laws do not change human nature but they can modify human behaviour. “It may be true that the law cannot change the heart, but it can restrain the heartless.” MLK, who tragically proved that point.

 

[Gideon300]

In a perfect world that might be possible.
There hasn't been a perfect world since Eden was infiltrated by the Devil. There was already a murder committed in the second generation. God gave a solid law right after the flood that man's blood should be shed for shedding another man's blood. We call that the death penalty.

The only thing that I can see that would have possibly changed the outcome would be if the parents were armed with effective weapons and able to stop the murderer. I have no criticism for the parents at all, only empathy. Nobody expects something like that to happen. However, good guys with weapons to equalize the odds is a good thing IMHO. What do you suggest?

Australia's experience shows that it is possible to reduce the incidence of mass shootings to near zero. Our kids go to school without fear of being shot at. Guns are here to stay, but the kind of gun readily available is limited. A licence is required and that involves a background check.

Americans seem to be terrified of the government, which God has put in place - if you believe the Bible. "In guns we trust"? it sure seems that way. If so, that trust is entirely misplaced.

 

[Cameron143]

True. However, enabling people to own semi automatic weapons, that have 50 round magazines, enables murderers to kill en mass. I've never advocated eliminating guns from society. It's impossible. Eliminating guns that would be better in the hands of trained military personnel is possible. It's been done in Australia. It works in practice.

Laws do not change human nature but they can modify human behaviour. “It may be true that the law cannot change the heart, but it can restrain the heartless.” MLK, who tragically proved that point.

Trained regulated State military personnel would be fine. What you don't understand is that the framers of the US Constitution didn't allow the second amendment so that people could hunt. The second amendment is about protecting ourselves from an authoritarian centralized government. So by limiting firepower, you are allowing easier authoritarian control.
It is unfortunate what is happening. And the deaths are increased to maintain this freedom. But what you also fail to understand is that guns aren't causing the increase in the number of shootings. Guns were around 50 years ago and the shootings didn't take place to this degree. By blaming guns, you will never get to the root of the problem. It's not a gun problem. It's a mental health problem. And until this gets dealt with the problem will only grow worse.

It isn't more caring to want to help. It's actually more caring to identify the real cause and do something about that.

 

[ZNP]

True. However, enabling people to own semi automatic weapons, that have 50 round magazines, enables murderers to kill en mass. I've never advocated eliminating guns from society. It's impossible. Eliminating guns that would be better in the hands of trained military personnel is possible. It's been done in Australia. It works in practice.

Laws do not change human nature but they can modify human behaviour. “It may be true that the law cannot change the heart, but it can restrain the heartless.” MLK, who tragically proved that point.

That is a good point, you can trust this government because they are renaming all the inner city schools after Martin Luther King, and they are telling you that their fathers in the Democratic party and in the South were terrible in killing MLK and others.

29 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! because ye build the tombs of the prophets, and garnish the sepulchres of the righteous,

30 And say, If we had been in the days of our fathers, we would not have been partakers with them in the blood of the prophets.

31 Wherefore ye be witnesses unto yourselves, that ye are the children of them which killed the prophets.

hmmm, ok scratch that.

 

[HealthAndHappiness]

[QUOTE"Gideon300, post: 5062253, member: 306029"]True. However, enabling people to own semi automatic weapons, that have 50 round magazines, enables murderers to kill en mass. I've never advocated eliminating guns from society. It's impossible. Eliminating guns that would be better in the hands of trained military personnel is possible. It's been done in Australia. It works in practice.

Laws do not change human nature but they can modify human behaviour. “It may be true that the law cannot change the heart, but it can restrain the heartless.” MLK, who tragically proved that point.[/QUOTE]
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All the weapons in the hands of "trained military personnel " is exactly what the devil has been fighting FOR. The Bible tells us of the Philistines who disarmed God's people and put them under bondage. Must I remind us again of The past hundred years ?
Trained military personnel murdered their own people more than those of other nations.

"It works in practice" you say?

Indeed it does.

 

[Locoponydirtman]

The US government is the least responsible with fire arms and some bloody morons want them to be the only one with them.
I guess no one bothered to learn from the mass beatings that Australian police handed out to protesters a couple of years ago. Or the American civilian show down with the Bureau of Land Management, where ranchers with rifles kept govco from siezing rancher cattle.
Im only going to become angry in this thread. The gustapo police departments abuse people left and right and center and we want to disarm ourselves against them.