We are not under the law
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BTW: Once again the "title" of the thread does not properly address the comment in the OP. Big difference between the 613 Laws of the Old Testament and the 10 Commandments.
Re: 10 Commandments. Couple of Scriptures showing what Jesus thought:
Matthew 5:19 .) Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
20 .) For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven.
21 .) Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not kill; and whosoever shall kill shall be in danger of the judgment:
22 .) But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.
23 .) Therefore if thou bring thy gift to the altar, and there rememberest that thy brother hath ought against thee;
24 .) Leave there thy gift before the altar, and go thy way; first be reconciled to thy brother, and then come and offer thy gift.
25 .) Agree with thine adversary quickly, whiles thou art in the way with him; lest at any time the adversary deliver thee to the judge, and the judge deliver thee to the officer, and thou be cast into prison.
26 .) Verily I say unto thee, Thou shalt by no means come out thence, till thou hast paid the uttermost farthing.
27 .) Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not commit adultery:
28 .) But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.
Re: 10 Commandments. Couple of Scriptures showing what Jesus thought:
Matthew 5:19 .) Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
20 .) For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven.
21 .) Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not kill; and whosoever shall kill shall be in danger of the judgment:
22 .) But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.
23 .) Therefore if thou bring thy gift to the altar, and there rememberest that thy brother hath ought against thee;
24 .) Leave there thy gift before the altar, and go thy way; first be reconciled to thy brother, and then come and offer thy gift.
25 .) Agree with thine adversary quickly, whiles thou art in the way with him; lest at any time the adversary deliver thee to the judge, and the judge deliver thee to the officer, and thou be cast into prison.
26 .) Verily I say unto thee, Thou shalt by no means come out thence, till thou hast paid the uttermost farthing.
27 .) Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not commit adultery:
28 .) But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.
what kind of school teacher is it.
to get grace is saying we believe jesus is saviour.
paul in gal why are you again looking at law as a guide. the law was put in place for a jewish people. ie sin gets its power from law.
romans 8-1 no condemnation from the same spirit that raised jesus from the dead.
so again paul adds promise to why like abraham got righteous before god. all got the gift by believing in jesus. etc
acts 15 asks what law was given to a gentile, it dose not ask, what law was given to a jewish person. what kind of school teacher is it.
so even here at acts 15 is debating what law is to be given to a gentile. at this meeting they could have said follow the full law. etc
when at this meeting did they say we will give them the 10 commands. were given to a gentile.
because they are all saved by believing there is a god by believing through jesus.
why put law in, if sin gets its power from law. when we are saved by gods power.
to get grace is saying we believe jesus is saviour.
paul in gal why are you again looking at law as a guide. the law was put in place for a jewish people. ie sin gets its power from law.
romans 8-1 no condemnation from the same spirit that raised jesus from the dead.
so again paul adds promise to why like abraham got righteous before god. all got the gift by believing in jesus. etc
acts 15 asks what law was given to a gentile, it dose not ask, what law was given to a jewish person. what kind of school teacher is it.
so even here at acts 15 is debating what law is to be given to a gentile. at this meeting they could have said follow the full law. etc
when at this meeting did they say we will give them the 10 commands. were given to a gentile.
because they are all saved by believing there is a god by believing through jesus.
why put law in, if sin gets its power from law. when we are saved by gods power.
As you are concentrating on this division of the Gospel of Christ, I can only believe you are of the sect that believes in the Two Bible/Gospel theology.
HERE:
Take this, RIP OUT all of the Scriptures that DO NOT pertain to gentiles. Then take what is left, that pertains to Jews, name it the Holy Bible for Jews...........take the ripped out portion and name it the Holy Bible for Gentiles.
WALLA! No more confusion.
Now, doing this would go against the Gospel of Christ, and the teachings in the Epistles of the Apostles, but, that's ok isn't it?
HERE:
Take this, RIP OUT all of the Scriptures that DO NOT pertain to gentiles. Then take what is left, that pertains to Jews, name it the Holy Bible for Jews...........take the ripped out portion and name it the Holy Bible for Gentiles.
WALLA! No more confusion.
Now, doing this would go against the Gospel of Christ, and the teachings in the Epistles of the Apostles, but, that's ok isn't it?
My minister quoted Romans 10:4 in church today
Christ is the end of the law unto righteousness to everyone who believeth
Where does that verse say you don't have to live as God wants you to? Unless you want to obey God out of fear of hell if you don't, you won't have a problem with the verse
You are not under a law of righteousness
Christ is the end of the law unto righteousness to everyone who believeth
Where does that verse say you don't have to live as God wants you to? Unless you want to obey God out of fear of hell if you don't, you won't have a problem with the verse
You are not under a law of righteousness
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Romans 4:4-5King James Version (KJV)
4 Now to him that worketh is the reward not reckoned of grace, but of debt.
5 But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness.
[h=1]Romans 4:4-5The Message (MSG)[/h]4-5 If you’re a hard worker and do a good job, you deserve your pay; we don’t call your wages a gift. But if you see that the job is too big for you, that it’s something only God can do, and you trust him to do it—you could never do it for yourself no matter how hard and long you worked—well, that trusting-him-to-do-it is what gets you set right with God, by God. Sheer gift.
4 Now to him that worketh is the reward not reckoned of grace, but of debt.
5 But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness.
[h=1]Romans 4:4-5The Message (MSG)[/h]4-5 If you’re a hard worker and do a good job, you deserve your pay; we don’t call your wages a gift. But if you see that the job is too big for you, that it’s something only God can do, and you trust him to do it—you could never do it for yourself no matter how hard and long you worked—well, that trusting-him-to-do-it is what gets you set right with God, by God. Sheer gift.
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Church of God Reformation Movement.......we have no creed but the Bible.
you already believe in jesus saved you. the only quistion that need asking, would be what time in history this happened.
when the romans stole the old testament (via war) would a non christian jew or pharasee agree to letting a gentile read from the scriptures in the temple. etc old testamant. so the bible up to acts 10 would not include a gentile. so is mostly for a jewish people ,up to this time period. ie gospels etc pentecost. to acts 10. when we read that a gentile can be saved. via jesus.
jesus was jewish.
As you are concentrating on this division of the Gospel of Christ, I can only believe you are of the sect that believes in the Two Bible/Gospel theology(.your quote.)
even paul tells you this, is god a god to the gentile also. why is he using the word gentile. so he is making a difference between jews and gentiles.
so time is not against the gospel it tell you gentiles were saved at a later date.
you already believe in jesus saved you. the only quistion that need asking, would be what time in history this happened.
when the romans stole the old testament (via war) would a non christian jew or pharasee agree to letting a gentile read from the scriptures in the temple. etc old testamant. so the bible up to acts 10 would not include a gentile. so is mostly for a jewish people ,up to this time period. ie gospels etc pentecost. to acts 10. when we read that a gentile can be saved. via jesus.
jesus was jewish.
As you are concentrating on this division of the Gospel of Christ, I can only believe you are of the sect that believes in the Two Bible/Gospel theology(.your quote.)
even paul tells you this, is god a god to the gentile also. why is he using the word gentile. so he is making a difference between jews and gentiles.
so time is not against the gospel it tell you gentiles were saved at a later date.
John 4: 21 .) Then Jesus went thence, and departed into the coasts of Tyre and Sidon.
22 .) And, behold, a woman of Canaan came out of the same coasts, and cried unto him, saying, Have mercy on me, O Lord, thou son of David; my daughter is grievously vexed with a devil.
23 .) But he answered her not a word. And his disciples came and besought him, saying, Send her away; for she crieth after us.
24 .) But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel.
25 .) Then came she and worshipped him, saying, Lord, help me.
26 .) But he answered and said, It is not meet to take the children's bread, and to cast it to dogs.
27 .) And she said, Truth, Lord: yet the dogs eat of the crumbs which fall from their masters' table.
28 .) Then Jesus answered and said unto her, O woman, great is thy faith: be it unto thee even as thou wilt. And her daughter was made whole from that very hour.
John 4: 5 .) Then cometh he to a city of Samaria, which is called Sychar, near to the parcel of ground that Jacob gave to his son Joseph.
6 .) Now Jacob's well was there. Jesus therefore, being wearied with his journey, sat thus on the well: and it was about the sixth hour.
7 .) There cometh a woman of Samaria to draw water: Jesus saith unto her, Give me to drink.
8 .) (For his disciples were gone away unto the city to buy meat.)
9 .) Then saith the woman of Samaria unto him, How is it that thou, being a Jew, askest drink of me, which am a woman of Samaria? for the Jews have no dealings with the Samaritans.
10 .) Jesus answered and said unto her, If thou knewest the gift of God, and who it is that saith to thee, Give me to drink; thou wouldest have asked of him, and he would have given thee living water.
John 1014 .) I am the good shepherd, and know my sheep, and am known of mine.
15 .) As the Father knoweth me, even so know I the Father: and I lay down my life for the sheep.
16 .) And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, and one shepherd.
John 17:: 20 .) Neither pray I for these alone, but for them also which shall believe on me through their word;
21 .) That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me.
22 .) And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that they may be one, even as we are one:
23 .) I in them, and thou in me, that they may be made perfect in one; and that the world may know that thou hast sent me, and hast loved them, as thou hast loved me.
Matthew 28:19 .) Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:
20 .) Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen.
22 .) And, behold, a woman of Canaan came out of the same coasts, and cried unto him, saying, Have mercy on me, O Lord, thou son of David; my daughter is grievously vexed with a devil.
23 .) But he answered her not a word. And his disciples came and besought him, saying, Send her away; for she crieth after us.
24 .) But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel.
25 .) Then came she and worshipped him, saying, Lord, help me.
26 .) But he answered and said, It is not meet to take the children's bread, and to cast it to dogs.
27 .) And she said, Truth, Lord: yet the dogs eat of the crumbs which fall from their masters' table.
28 .) Then Jesus answered and said unto her, O woman, great is thy faith: be it unto thee even as thou wilt. And her daughter was made whole from that very hour.
John 4: 5 .) Then cometh he to a city of Samaria, which is called Sychar, near to the parcel of ground that Jacob gave to his son Joseph.
6 .) Now Jacob's well was there. Jesus therefore, being wearied with his journey, sat thus on the well: and it was about the sixth hour.
7 .) There cometh a woman of Samaria to draw water: Jesus saith unto her, Give me to drink.
8 .) (For his disciples were gone away unto the city to buy meat.)
9 .) Then saith the woman of Samaria unto him, How is it that thou, being a Jew, askest drink of me, which am a woman of Samaria? for the Jews have no dealings with the Samaritans.
10 .) Jesus answered and said unto her, If thou knewest the gift of God, and who it is that saith to thee, Give me to drink; thou wouldest have asked of him, and he would have given thee living water.
John 1014 .) I am the good shepherd, and know my sheep, and am known of mine.
15 .) As the Father knoweth me, even so know I the Father: and I lay down my life for the sheep.
16 .) And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, and one shepherd.
John 17:: 20 .) Neither pray I for these alone, but for them also which shall believe on me through their word;
21 .) That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me.
22 .) And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that they may be one, even as we are one:
23 .) I in them, and thou in me, that they may be made perfect in one; and that the world may know that thou hast sent me, and hast loved them, as thou hast loved me.
Matthew 28:19 .) Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:
20 .) Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen.