what do you mean 'UNknown ? why would God tell them to REMEMBER a day they they did not know about ? It had been FORGOTTEN, rejected or neglected just like people do today...only they have got a lot worse...they now REBEL against it ! yep, scripture is correct.... they will get worse and worse...opposing GOD !
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This is concerning the weak and the strong Christian. And some of us are strong, and some are weak. ROMANS;14; 6; He that regardeth the day, regardeth it unto the Lord; and he that regardeth not the day, to the Lord he doth not regard it. .......You see, God knows if you regard the sabbath or not., but judgment is his, and not man's. What do you think God would say about not regarding the sabbath in his honor.?
Another sabbath thread? The sabbath needs a rest. 
The Lord's Day (Sunday) is the Christian sabbath and Saturday is the Jewish sabbath.
The Lord's Day (Sunday) is the Christian sabbath and Saturday is the Jewish sabbath.
People are divided NOW and GOD is bringing them into the same Fold....NOT still keeping them apart.
God does not create division obviously. But when they Jews rejected their Messiah, they maintained their sabbath and many other Jewish practices. On the other hand Christians began observing the Lord's Day from the very beginning, and it continues to be the Christian sabbath. On a lighter note, the sun is more powerful than saturn, therefore the day of the sun is more significant than the day of saturn. So you can take your pick. Note the sunglasses!
Note the sunglasses!
God does not create division obviously. But when they Jews rejected their Messiah, they maintained their sabbath and many other Jewish practices. On the other hand Christians began observing the Lord's Day from the very beginning, and it continues to be the Christian sabbath. On a lighter note, the sun is more powerful than saturn, therefore the day of the sun is more significant than the day of saturn. So you can take your pick. Note the sunglasses!
Note the sunglasses!
The best thing you can do is study to find out. There are people on both sides of the equation.
Here is a General rule to keep you safe as you study to find out.
The law is the base and foundation of all truth. The law is in the first five books. By this we are to test prophets to see if they are true or false and also any one who claims to teach in the name of God or Jesus.
The prophets pointed back to the law/five books.
The reason the NT books in the bible are accepted is because they agree with the law.
The New testament writers taught as seen in the NT to know truth form the OT. Paul backed everything he taught with the law and the prophets.
This is why the NT writers quote or reference the OT all the time.
Many here do not follow this general rule that the NT writers gave example of. Thus they will quote many NT texts and use them to tell you something they never intended. Taken out of context.
So If you can't find the teaching in the law then you know you have misused the NT.
Isa 8:20 To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them.
You will find everything Jesus taught and the apostles taught can also be taught from the law.
Happy Study.
Here is a General rule to keep you safe as you study to find out.
The law is the base and foundation of all truth. The law is in the first five books. By this we are to test prophets to see if they are true or false and also any one who claims to teach in the name of God or Jesus.
The prophets pointed back to the law/five books.
The reason the NT books in the bible are accepted is because they agree with the law.
The New testament writers taught as seen in the NT to know truth form the OT. Paul backed everything he taught with the law and the prophets.
This is why the NT writers quote or reference the OT all the time.
Many here do not follow this general rule that the NT writers gave example of. Thus they will quote many NT texts and use them to tell you something they never intended. Taken out of context.
So If you can't find the teaching in the law then you know you have misused the NT.
Isa 8:20 To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them.
You will find everything Jesus taught and the apostles taught can also be taught from the law.
Happy Study.
*Colossians 2:16 - Therefore no one is to act as your judge in regard to food or drink or in respect to a festival or a new moon or a Sabbath day 17 things which are a mere shadow of what is to come; but the substance belongs to Christ.
Even when Sabbatarians set out to worship on the Sabbath, are they truly "keeping the Sabbath?" To "keep the Sabbath" as it was required in the Old Testament under the Old Covenant would involve compliance with specific regulations (Exodus 16:23; 35:3; Leviticus 23:32; Jeremiah 17:21) that were strictly enforced.
If Sabbath day observances are still required, so would the burnt offerings which went along with them (Leviticus 19:30; 23:2-3; Numbers 28:1-10; 29:39-40; I Chronicles. 23:30-31; II Chronicles 31:2-4; Isaiah 1:13). So no kindling a fire in any of your dwellings on the sabbath (Exodus 35:3). Every man must remain in his place (no traveling) on the sabbath (Exodus 16:29). No trading (Amos 8:5). No marketing (Nehemiah 10:31; 13:15,19).
These were commanded by God to Israel (Exodus 35:1).
If the seventh day Sabbath is still in affect, then why do not the Sabbatarians seek to obey ALL that the LORD commanded? How can a person keep a certain law when he keeps only part of it?
If the Sabbath day laws were still in effect today, then according to Exodus 31:12-18; 35:1-3; and Numbers 15:32-36, anyone who profaned the Sabbath was put to death and any person who does any work on it, that person shall be cut off from his people.
Who is going to enforce that? The Jewish synagogue? The Seventh day Adventist church? The Government? Since we do not live under a theocratic state as ancient Israel did under the Old Covenant, no Sabbatarian can live consistently under these Mosaic regulations.
Even when Sabbatarians set out to worship on the Sabbath, are they truly "keeping the Sabbath?" To "keep the Sabbath" as it was required in the Old Testament under the Old Covenant would involve compliance with specific regulations (Exodus 16:23; 35:3; Leviticus 23:32; Jeremiah 17:21) that were strictly enforced.
If Sabbath day observances are still required, so would the burnt offerings which went along with them (Leviticus 19:30; 23:2-3; Numbers 28:1-10; 29:39-40; I Chronicles. 23:30-31; II Chronicles 31:2-4; Isaiah 1:13). So no kindling a fire in any of your dwellings on the sabbath (Exodus 35:3). Every man must remain in his place (no traveling) on the sabbath (Exodus 16:29). No trading (Amos 8:5). No marketing (Nehemiah 10:31; 13:15,19).
These were commanded by God to Israel (Exodus 35:1).
If the seventh day Sabbath is still in affect, then why do not the Sabbatarians seek to obey ALL that the LORD commanded? How can a person keep a certain law when he keeps only part of it?
If the Sabbath day laws were still in effect today, then according to Exodus 31:12-18; 35:1-3; and Numbers 15:32-36, anyone who profaned the Sabbath was put to death and any person who does any work on it, that person shall be cut off from his people.
Who is going to enforce that? The Jewish synagogue? The Seventh day Adventist church? The Government? Since we do not live under a theocratic state as ancient Israel did under the Old Covenant, no Sabbatarian can live consistently under these Mosaic regulations.
Hmm same old same old already been addressed so many times already..
Yep talking about the special annual festival Sabbaths of Leviticus not the 4th Commandment and the laws in ordinances for remission of sins in the Mosaic book of the law linked with scripture; CLICK ME
Yep already addressed here with scripture. Seems God's Word disagrees with you CLICK ME
Well none of that is true unless your living in Israel under their CIVIL LAWS in the OLD Covenant. The death penalty then was for openly breaking most of the 10 Commandments not just the 4th. It has nothing to do with the NEW Covenant as God's judgement for SIN will be carried out at the close of probation and the 2nd coming. All those practicing KNOWN UNREPENTANT SIN (breaking any of God's 10 Commandments) will NOT enter into the KINGDOM of HEAVEN.
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God's 4th commandment is one of the ten (Exodus 20:8-11) If we knowingly break it when God asks us not to we stand guilty before God of committing sin (James 2:8-12). If we do not seek him in repentance and forgiveness we are in danger of the Judgement (Hebrews 10:26-27)
Sunday worship is a tradition and teaching of man that has led many to break the commandments of God. Jesus says that if we follow the traditions of man that break the commandments of God we are not following God (Matthew 15:3-9)
There is not one scripture in all of God's Word that says that God's 4th Commandment is now ABOLISHED and we are now commanded to KEEP Sunday as a Holy day.
Who should we follow the teachings and traditions of men or the Word of God? Who should we believe the Words of men or the Word of God?
In times of ignorance God winks at but now ,<when a KNOWLEDGE of the truth has come> calls all men everywhere to REPENT (FOLLOW) (Acts 17:30-31).
Yep talking about the special annual festival Sabbaths of Leviticus not the 4th Commandment and the laws in ordinances for remission of sins in the Mosaic book of the law linked with scripture; CLICK ME
Yep already addressed here with scripture. Seems God's Word disagrees with you CLICK ME
Well none of that is true unless your living in Israel under their CIVIL LAWS in the OLD Covenant. The death penalty then was for openly breaking most of the 10 Commandments not just the 4th. It has nothing to do with the NEW Covenant as God's judgement for SIN will be carried out at the close of probation and the 2nd coming. All those practicing KNOWN UNREPENTANT SIN (breaking any of God's 10 Commandments) will NOT enter into the KINGDOM of HEAVEN.
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God's 4th commandment is one of the ten (Exodus 20:8-11) If we knowingly break it when God asks us not to we stand guilty before God of committing sin (James 2:8-12). If we do not seek him in repentance and forgiveness we are in danger of the Judgement (Hebrews 10:26-27)
Sunday worship is a tradition and teaching of man that has led many to break the commandments of God. Jesus says that if we follow the traditions of man that break the commandments of God we are not following God (Matthew 15:3-9)
There is not one scripture in all of God's Word that says that God's 4th Commandment is now ABOLISHED and we are now commanded to KEEP Sunday as a Holy day.
Who should we follow the teachings and traditions of men or the Word of God? Who should we believe the Words of men or the Word of God?
In times of ignorance God winks at but now ,<when a KNOWLEDGE of the truth has come> calls all men everywhere to REPENT (FOLLOW) (Acts 17:30-31).
I am a servant of Yahweh through my Savior Yahushua, I DO NOT claim to know more than anyone, I share what I see and am glad to read what others also see, we are one Body. None better than the other. But if our heart is sincere, we learn from each other and take delight in the saints.
The biblical Sabbath is from Friday Sundown to Saturday sundown, it is the seventh day which we were asked to rest in, because it is the 7th day that Yahweh himself blessed, set apart and rested on himself. It is a memorial to our creator, I rest on the 7th day because He Created the world in 6 and I believe it. It is a symbol of the Sabbath day we will enter with Messiah when he reigns for 1000 years. What is the spirit behind the physical command? that for one day we leave all the cares of the world behind, that for workaholics, we pause for one day and as we let our body rest, we are reminded of Creation and therefore our Creator, that we might spend this day with our families and be thankful for our blessings and look forward to the true rest, when the rest we have for our souls in Messiah will be met with a physical rest for our bodies, that we will no longer have to toil everyday for a living, when we can live in peace in every manner of the word.
Why Friday Sundown to Saturday Sundown ? we can see that a biblical day begins at sundown - And evening and morning were the first day, we can see that when Yahushua was crucified they were trying to get him down and in the tomb before the High Holy Sabbath began, which is a conformation that the day began at sundown.
I thought, but why? for a bit, till I pondered on how marvelous and wonderful our creator is. There would never be a
"well has the day started" because everyone could see when the sun was going down, it was bringing in a day. Now a days if I don't have a clock I don't know if a new day has begun on our Roman calendars, the shade of dark doesn't change from 11:59pm to 12:00am. He is definitely smarter than we are.
The biblical Sabbath is from Friday Sundown to Saturday sundown, it is the seventh day which we were asked to rest in, because it is the 7th day that Yahweh himself blessed, set apart and rested on himself. It is a memorial to our creator, I rest on the 7th day because He Created the world in 6 and I believe it. It is a symbol of the Sabbath day we will enter with Messiah when he reigns for 1000 years. What is the spirit behind the physical command? that for one day we leave all the cares of the world behind, that for workaholics, we pause for one day and as we let our body rest, we are reminded of Creation and therefore our Creator, that we might spend this day with our families and be thankful for our blessings and look forward to the true rest, when the rest we have for our souls in Messiah will be met with a physical rest for our bodies, that we will no longer have to toil everyday for a living, when we can live in peace in every manner of the word.
Why Friday Sundown to Saturday Sundown ? we can see that a biblical day begins at sundown - And evening and morning were the first day, we can see that when Yahushua was crucified they were trying to get him down and in the tomb before the High Holy Sabbath began, which is a conformation that the day began at sundown.
I thought, but why? for a bit, till I pondered on how marvelous and wonderful our creator is. There would never be a
"well has the day started" because everyone could see when the sun was going down, it was bringing in a day. Now a days if I don't have a clock I don't know if a new day has begun on our Roman calendars, the shade of dark doesn't change from 11:59pm to 12:00am. He is definitely smarter than we are.
No where in my Bible does it say the first day of the week is hallowed and blessed it does however say that the seventh day is.
Exodus 20:
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Exodus 20:
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For in six days the Lord made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the Lord blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.
Nor does my Bible ever tell me that the Sunday/1st day is a sign between me and God. But it does tell me the Sabbath/7th day is a sign between me and God.
Ezekiel 20:12
Nor does my Bible ever tell me that the Sunday/1st day is a sign between me and God. But it does tell me the Sabbath/7th day is a sign between me and God.
Ezekiel 20:12
- Moreover also I gave them my sabbaths, to be a sign between me and them, that they might know that I [am] the LORD that sanctify them.
Nehemiah6, what make you think Adam was not a Sabbatarian?
Since Sunday was never declared Holy and Saturday was. Furthermore, it was sanctified at creation; and not under the law. The law said "Remember the Sabbath" which suggests it was established with Adam. God is not going to sanctify a day and not give instruction to His new creation. Why then would anybody want to worship on an unholy day. You are just trying to justify why you are respecting your Catholic heritage.
Since Sunday was never declared Holy and Saturday was. Furthermore, it was sanctified at creation; and not under the law. The law said "Remember the Sabbath" which suggests it was established with Adam. God is not going to sanctify a day and not give instruction to His new creation. Why then would anybody want to worship on an unholy day. You are just trying to justify why you are respecting your Catholic heritage.
Nehemiah6, what make you think Adam was not a Sabbatarian?
Since Sunday was never declared Holy and Saturday was. Furthermore, it was sanctified at creation; and not under the law. The law said "Remember the Sabbath" which suggests it was established with Adam. God is not going to sanctify a day and not give instruction to His new creation. Why then would anybody want to worship on an unholy day. You are just trying to justify why you are respecting your Catholic heritage.
Since Sunday was never declared Holy and Saturday was. Furthermore, it was sanctified at creation; and not under the law. The law said "Remember the Sabbath" which suggests it was established with Adam. God is not going to sanctify a day and not give instruction to His new creation. Why then would anybody want to worship on an unholy day. You are just trying to justify why you are respecting your Catholic heritage.
Deductive reason concerning the biblical narrative makes it very clear that Adam would have kept the 7th day as Sabbath. There was a time when most commentaries confessed this, even those who did not keep the Sabbath. Because there is no other logical conclusion.
It defies biblical reason and rational sense to suggest Adam did not keep the Sabbath simply because there is not a "command" recorded before Exodus.
When one grasps that Genesis is part of the law it becomes clear just by following the evidence that the Sabbath would have been kept by Adam.
The command in Exodus 20 leads you to that conclusion also. The idea that God blessed and sanctified a day and then did not give any instruction to Adam.
As if the only thing God ever said to Adam and Eve is what we have in Genesis 2 and 3 is a serious logical fallacy.
Another sabbath thread? The sabbath needs a rest.
The Lord's Day (Sunday) is the Christian sabbath and Saturday is the Jewish sabbath.
The Lord's Day (Sunday) is the Christian sabbath and Saturday is the Jewish sabbath.
What is "sabbath" if not rest from daily labor? And have Christians since the time of the apostles not rested from daily labor and worshiped on the Lord's Day? But if you are going to confuse the Day of the LORD (a time of severe judgments) with the Lord's Day (the first day of the week set aside for worship) then how can you possibly understand the significance of the Lord's Day? Long, long before the Roman Catholic Church came into existence, Christians already had a Christian sabbath. You will find it in the Bible if you look for it.