Wives and submissiveness

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WomanLovesTX

WomanLovesTX

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The best religious expression I ever heard about a wife's submissiveness is that the husband listens to her suggestions, opinions, and thoughts, but then the final decision must be made by the man, for he alone is directly subservient to Chirst whose head is God.

There is this chain of command set in place by God. When the husband is responsible answers directly to Christ, this relieves the woman and she can trust her husband in all things, irregardless of the outcome of his choices.

And the woman is to stand by her man in all decisions and in all consequences. She is his companion and confidant but he is the head and the final decision is to be his responsibility and carry all the burdens.

Two heads on one shoulder is a freak. No one can serve two masters. One head with two faces is a freak. There can only be one head and one master in marriage. .50x.50= 1/4 and 100 x 100 = 100.

Share your ideas of wives and submissiveness.
 
Captain_Mal

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One way I heard it put was that G-d did not create Eve from Adam's head to rule over him, nor was she created from his feet to be trampled by him. Rather, she was created from his side to help him.
 
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WomanLovesTX said:
The best religious expression I ever heard about a wife's submissiveness is that the husband listens to her suggestions, opinions, and thoughts, but then the final decision must be made by the man, for he alone is directly subservient to Chirst whose head is God.

There is this chain of command set in place by God. When the husband is responsible answers directly to Christ, this relieves the woman and she can trust her husband in all things, irregardless of the outcome of his choices.

And the woman is to stand by her man in all decisions and in all consequences. She is his companion and confidant but he is the head and the final decision is to be his responsibility and carry all the burdens.

Two heads on one shoulder is a freak. No one can serve two masters. One head with two faces is a freak. There can only be one head and one master in marriage. .50x.50= 1/4 and 100 x 100 = 100.

Share your ideas of wives and submissiveness.
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Ah, if only more of your kind existed and at a younger age! lol In all seriousness, I don't think it works like that anymore - it probably should - but it doesn't. Everyone has a right, an opinion, and a decision - this is what probably tears families apart? *shrug*
 
aspen

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wives be submissive to you husband

Husbands love your wives as Christ loves the Church

It means the same thing.

We are supposed to be equal partners.

Paul is telling us to love each other.

I am not sure why people make this so complicated, and attempt to put one person lower than the other.

I've been married for 15 great years - my wife is my equal partner - she has her strengths and I have mine - why would I want to rely on my opinion on subjects she knows more about then I do?
 
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Harley_Angel

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Being a submissive wife is really easy when you find a man you CAN trust with all your heart. This is why marriage should never be rushed. If a woman can't fully trust her husband, she can not be fully submissive to him, and the relationship will rarely work. I used to be a very dominant person, but God humble me and showed me my place in a relationship, and that relationship turned into a wonderful marriage where my husband listens to me and appreciates my wisdom, knowledge, and advice, and I support his decisions whatever the outcome is. He also consults me in everything, he dosn't hide stuff from me, he doesn't just go and do it because he has the authority to do it, he includes me in everything, which makes me feel like part of the relationship instead of me being drug behind him all the time.

It's beautiful what God can do in a marriage if you are willing to humble yourself enough to do what God asks of you as a woman, and for a man to humble himself enough to realize authority doesn't mean being rude, abusive, or secretive, but rather it should be used with kindness, love, and the well-being of his family in mind.
 
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wwjd_kilden

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Submissiveness to man came into the picture in eden after eve had eaten of the fruit. (just like humans loosing immortality and having to work for their food)

Jesus died for all sins... so as Paulus writes later:
There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave 1 nor free, there is neither male nor female 2 – for all of you are one in Christ Jesus.

so our submissiveness should be to GOD, not man
 
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wwjd_kilden said:
Submissiveness to man came into the picture in eden after eve had eaten of the fruit. (just like humans loosing immortality and having to work for their food)

Jesus died for all sins... so as Paulus writes later:
There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave 1 nor free, there is neither male nor female 2 – for all of you are one in Christ Jesus.

so our submissiveness should be to GOD, not man
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good point also. that is why God is the glue to marriages.
 
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wwjd_kilden

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yup

If I submit to God I will automatically be doing what i should for my husband (once I get one), so I see that as the priority
 
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greatkraw

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if you look closely at the scripture you will see that the woman was to be subject to the man even BEFORE they fell
 
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wwjd_kilden

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then why does paul say there is neither male nor female?

I bet if it eas the other way around you'd disagree ;)
 
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greatkraw

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wwjd_kilden said:
then why does paul say there is neither male nor female?

I bet if it eas the other way around you'd disagree ;)
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im just telling you what genesis said

Paul was dealing with a different issue

the rabbis used to debate whether a woman even had a soul

the new testament makes it clear that we are joint heirs - male and female

it also makes it clear that men and women have different roles - just as the Father and the Son have different roles but one is not more important than the other
 
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wwjd_kilden

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exactly, if non is more important, then both should submit to each other (and God)
 
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greatkraw

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wwjd_kilden said:
exactly, if non is more important, then both should submit to each other (and God)
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the scripture is specific

the man makes the decisions (and gets the blame)
the woman is commanded to respect her husband (she does not have to be told to love him)
the man is commanded to love his wife(then he will automatically respect her and put her first)

different roles; same value
 
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wwjd_kilden

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just too bad most people forget the last one

just like people say " Children, obey your parents" all te time, but NEVER say "Fathers, do not provoke your children to anger by the way you treat them"
we humans like to be selective :p
 
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greatkraw

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wwjd_kilden said:
just too bad most people forget the last one

just like people say " Children, obey your parents" all te time, but NEVER say "Fathers, do not provoke your children to anger by the way you treat them"
we humans like to be selective :p
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no news there

i know plenty of females who like having someone else to blame:)
 
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wwjd_kilden

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of course, I usually blame the dragon under my bed
 
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Gabriel777

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aspen said:
wives be submissive to you husband

Husbands love your wives as Christ loves the Church

It means the same thing.

We are supposed to be equal partners.

Paul is telling us to love each other.

I am not sure why people make this so complicated, and attempt to put one person lower than the other.

I've been married for 15 great years - my wife is my equal partner - she has her strengths and I have mine - why would I want to rely on my opinion on subjects she knows more about then I do?
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Right there man. Finally someone gets it
 
aspen

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greatkraw said:
im just telling you what genesis said

Paul was dealing with a different issue

the rabbis used to debate whether a woman even had a soul

the new testament makes it clear that we are joint heirs - male and female

it also makes it clear that men and women have different roles - just as the Father and the Son have different roles but one is not more important than the other
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Eve was Adam's helper - how does this signify lower or submission? A helper is not a slave.

Adam called her bone of his bone sounds equal to me
 
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