Wives and submissiveness

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no news there

i know plenty of females who like having someone else to blame:)
It is the bane of our existence - refusing to take responsibility for our actions - nothing gender specific about this habit
 
Feb 18, 2010
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This thread caught my eye for a couple of reasons. One of them was that it was written by a woman which really surprised me.

he doesn't just go and do it because he has the authority to do it, he includes me in everything, which makes me feel like part of the relationship instead of me being drug behind him all the time.
Right on, Harley. And that's what I'm talking about. A submissive woman makes me want to serve her and love her even more. I respect gentle, submissive women twice as much as I respect women who are neutral on the subject. And about ten times as much as those who boss their husbands around. Honestly, if I had a submissive young lady as my second half I'd respect her, serve her (as I did my ex at first), love her, consider her advice and above all take pride in her. I think that's the kind of bride our master Jesus would be pleased to have.

Great thread, ladies. Really surprised.

P.S. I don't think it would work out as well if men were submissive to women. For example, my ex was the take-charge type. If I tried to be the decision-maker she'd take offense. If I tried to submit she'd disrespect me. It was a no-win situation.
 
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I'm like Harley Angel in that I have a very dominant personality at times. I believe the Bible and I believe the instruction of the Bible with respect to order of submission. That being said, like Harley, my husband loves & respects me & seeks out my opinions in all things but... ultimately when my mind needs to change, he in his wonderfully gentle way exercises his authority and I receive that cause I know its right. Men & women are created differently and this is the reason for this. In my opinion in my situation I am more of an emotional responder where my husband is more of an analytical responder. It is definitely better to make household desicions in a non emotional headspace. That being said sometimes the emotional response is completely and totally valid and correct especially when it comes to matters in the protection & rearing of our Children. Normally he takes my opinion in these matters & he NEVER EVER messes with the nest! (translation, the house is mine!!! the shop is his) i remember once many years ago, he received a harley davidson calendar from a biker friend for christmas and hung it on my kitchen wall (girls in bikinis) and said I live here too you know... I said fine. The next day I purchased a calendar that I would normally NEVER purchase of firemen in bikini's and hung it in his shop. Needless to say he suddenly understood my point. Although I found the bikini babes offensive in my kitchen (or anywhere for that matter) I let him come to the understanding with some thoughtful manipulation on my part hee hee! Then we started a campfire with the firemen.
 
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I'm like Harley Angel in that I have a very dominant personality at times. I believe the Bible and I believe the instruction of the Bible with respect to order of submission. That being said, like Harley, my husband loves & respects me & seeks out my opinions in all things but... ultimately when my mind needs to change, he in his wonderfully gentle way exercises his authority and I receive that cause I know its right. Men & women are created differently and this is the reason for this. In my opinion in my situation I am more of an emotional responder where my husband is more of an analytical responder. It is definitely better to make household desicions in a non emotional headspace. That being said sometimes the emotional response is completely and totally valid and correct especially when it comes to matters in the protection & rearing of our Children. Normally he takes my opinion in these matters & he NEVER EVER messes with the nest! (translation, the house is mine!!! the shop is his) i remember once many years ago, he received a harley davidson calendar from a biker friend for christmas and hung it on my kitchen wall (girls in bikinis) and said I live here too you know... I said fine. The next day I purchased a calendar that I would normally NEVER purchase of firemen in bikini's and hung it in his shop. Needless to say he suddenly understood my point. Although I found the bikini babes offensive in my kitchen (or anywhere for that matter) I let him come to the understanding with some thoughtful manipulation on my part hee hee! Then we started a campfire with the firemen.
Haha. Cool story, imoss. People are a lot more understanding of others when they go through the same things. It's just unfortunate that they have to go through the same thing (i.e. seeing the half-naked firemen) before they start using their brains and become a little more understanding.
 
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Lol, the calander thing is funny! It's the same way at my house...the house is mine, the garage is his. I lethim keep his otorcycle boots out and he's got 1 bookshelf that he can put "approved" items on. If I don't like the way it looks, he gets to put it somewhere else. Mostly he keeps his hat, his mags, and some tools on it lol. Makes him feel good, but doesn't make my place look like a bachelor pad.
 

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Share your ideas of wives and submissiveness.
Fantastic thread introduction WomanLovesTX!!!

I will share this idea, that the women I have seen in my life who truly are submissive to their husbands, those women I found to be the most beautiful women I have ever known. Indeed, not even one of them ever wore makeup either, nor was it necessary, as they had a beauty that shown from deep within.

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Lol, when I think of Jesus, I still imagine him on a Harley with the wind blowing his hair back and the sun setting behind him as he smiles, nods, puts his sunglasses on and rides off.
 
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Lol, when I think of Jesus, I still imagine him on a Harley with the wind blowing his hair back and the sun setting behind him as he smiles, nods, puts his sunglasses on and rides off.
When Jesus puts on sunglasses it is to keep us from being blinded by the light from His eyes.
 

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This is a wonderful post.
The one thing that has frustrated me has been the corruption where it is taught that a woman should be submisive to all men.
It is good to see the clarification.
God bless, pickles
 
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Lol, the calander thing is funny! It's the same way at my house...the house is mine, the garage is his. I lethim keep his otorcycle boots out and he's got 1 bookshelf that he can put "approved" items on. If I don't like the way it looks, he gets to put it somewhere else. Mostly he keeps his hat, his mags, and some tools on it lol. Makes him feel good, but doesn't make my place look like a bachelor pad.
Hee hee its funny you say this as in our entrance way to our house sit two harleys, the bowler hat of our dear friend who passed away, wolf, bear, & coyote pelts... suppose these items arent really to my taste but I've set them up so they look kinda pretty. Yup it's his house too and all who enter in see that just before they walk into my world (this is his world too but I always have the most say!) We are blessed in that when we go shopping for furniture we share the same taste in rustic country kinda stuff (cept my lacey white drapes & doileys) He's comfortable here so thats good cause I wouldnt want him going somewhere else to get comfortable!
 
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The best religious expression I ever heard about a wife's submissiveness is that the husband listens to her suggestions, opinions, and thoughts, but then the final decision must be made by the man, for he alone is directly subservient to Chirst whose head is God.

There is this chain of command set in place by God. When the husband is responsible answers directly to Christ, this relieves the woman and she can trust her husband in all things, irregardless of the outcome of his choices.

And the woman is to stand by her man in all decisions and in all consequences. She is his companion and confidant but he is the head and the final decision is to be his responsibility and carry all the burdens.

Two heads on one shoulder is a freak. No one can serve two masters. One head with two faces is a freak. There can only be one head and one master in marriage. .50x.50= 1/4 and 100 x 100 = 100.

Share your ideas of wives and submissiveness.
a little confused here but are you basicly saying the man should be higher than the woman ??
 
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both partners need to contribute 100%
 
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The best religious expression I ever heard about a wife's submissiveness is that the husband listens to her suggestions, opinions, and thoughts, but then the final decision must be made by the man, for he alone is directly subservient to Chirst whose head is God.

There is this chain of command set in place by God. When the husband is responsible answers directly to Christ, this relieves the woman and she can trust her husband in all things, irregardless of the outcome of his choices.

And the woman is to stand by her man in all decisions and in all consequences. She is his companion and confidant but he is the head and the final decision is to be his responsibility and carry all the burdens.

Two heads on one shoulder is a freak. No one can serve two masters. One head with two faces is a freak. There can only be one head and one master in marriage. .50x.50= 1/4 and 100 x 100 = 100.

Share your ideas of wives and submissiveness.
Not much to add to this, other than I agree.
 
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Eve was Adam's helper - how does this signify lower or submission? A helper is not a slave.

Adam called her bone of his bone sounds equal to me
Of course men and women are equal, but we have different roles.
 
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Eve was Adam's helper - how does this signify lower or submission? A helper is not a slave.

Adam called her bone of his bone sounds equal to me

no one said anything about slave - different roles and resposibilities is not slavery

the fact is, she was to assist him; not the other way round


Gen 3 16 Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee.
 
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no one said anything about slave - different roles and resposibilities is not slavery

the fact is, she was to assist him; not the other way round


Gen 3 16 Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee.

We are not supposed to serve our wives?

If Paul had only said - love each other it would have been so much clearer....

Og course how was he supposed to know that there was going to be so many literalists in the future