Wives and submissiveness

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Harley_Angel

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All things in moderation...even pillows...lol j/k. I've got a million blankets because my husband thinks he needs every single blanket I'm using and I end up freezing.
 

jb

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The best religious expression I ever heard about a wife's submissiveness is that the husband listens to her suggestions, opinions, and thoughts, but then the final decision must be made by the man, for he alone is directly subservient to Chirst whose head is God.

There is this chain of command set in place by God. When the husband is responsible answers directly to Christ, this relieves the woman and she can trust her husband in all things, irregardless of the outcome of his choices.

And the woman is to stand by her man in all decisions and in all consequences. She is his companion and confidant but he is the head and the final decision is to be his responsibility and carry all the burdens.

Two heads on one shoulder is a freak. No one can serve two masters. One head with two faces is a freak. There can only be one head and one master in marriage. .50x.50= 1/4 and 100 x 100 = 100.

Share your ideas of wives and submissiveness.
Quite an unbalanced view...quite often the husband is wrong and the wife is right!

Genesis 21v12, "But God said to Abraham, "Do not let it be displeasing in your sight because of the lad or because of your bondwoman. Whatever Sarah has said to you, listen to her voice; for in Isaac your seed shall be called."

Abraham got it wrong...big time!

Any decision that is being made that affects both husband and wife should be a joint decision...
 

phil36

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Hi all,

Marriage reflects what? Marriage reflects our relationship with Christ.

We are submissive to our Lord and Saviour, for we know he loves us, has died for us (husbands would you die for your wives?) and his love for us is steadfast. he wants the best for us, he wants us to grow in him because we can wholly trust Him.......

Well I think that was more food for thought for the men. we are the head, but do we sacrifice for our wives? when we do something it should be for their good and not our own selfish interests, that is how a submissive wife can flourish like a blooming flower..

And all this I learned after i got divorced, mind you I wasn't a Christian then.
The above I be to be true, and if we men lived sacrificialy for our wives, they in return will be submiisve in love.

Well just my thoughts, from mans point of view lol

Kind regards

Phil
 
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greatkraw

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Eight pillows? [Thinks about refering her to thread on fetishes. Decides against it. Thinks about doing a poll on pillows. Decides that he can't find a Bible verse to reference.]
the son of man has no where to lay his head:D
 

DinoDillinger

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Quite an unbalanced view...quite often the husband is wrong and the wife is right!

Genesis 21v12, "But God said to Abraham, "Do not let it be displeasing in your sight because of the lad or because of your bondwoman. Whatever Sarah has said to you, listen to her voice; for in Isaac your seed shall be called."

Abraham got it wrong...big time!

Any decision that is being made that affects both husband and wife should be a joint decision...
If you look at this situation, God did not declare that the wife's vote had the same weight as her husband, but infact shows that the husband has the lead which God acknowledges when He tells Abraham to heed the voice of his wife. This verse reaffirms the person's opinion you quoted which basically said that the husband should carefully consider the counsil of his wife. The husband can defininatly be wrong and the wife right, but a house divided can not stand. Somebody has to take responsibility and have the final say, that would be the MAN.

No wonder so many women complain about men these days, the world has turned us into a bunch of big ole wussies. Scared to assume our responsibilities and be the leader of our house. :p
 
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embraceswampcreature

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The husband can defininatly be wrong and the wife right, but a house divided can not stand. Somebody has to take responsibility and have the final say, that would be the MAN.
So, if the wife rebels against the husband's decision because she believes it wrong, is this going against the will of G-d in your opinion? I still don't see the benefits of submitting to one's husband. I would wish that respect in my relationship would be such that "leadership roles" wouldn't be an issue, and it could be a well represented two person democracy. I suppose it depends on the temperaments of the individuals, but should it be fair to assume that all "good" Christian wives should submit to their husband, regardless of their temperaments?
 

DinoDillinger

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So, if the wife rebels against the husband's decision because she believes it wrong, is this going against the will of G-d in your opinion? I still don't see the benefits of submitting to one's husband. I would wish that respect in my relationship would be such that "leadership roles" wouldn't be an issue, and it could be a well represented two person democracy. I suppose it depends on the temperaments of the individuals, but should it be fair to assume that all "good" Christian wives should submit to their husband, regardless of their temperaments?
You can chalk it up to dying to yourself if you would like, or hating your own life if that suits you. It's not hard to imagine submitting to your husband who doesn't deserve it (in a few or many ways) making you grow into the image of Christ. Which is the purpose of marriage.

Be very careful who you take as a husband would be my advice, look past the flashy things that draw you in, even the outward moral appearances for that matter. Does his heart burn for God should be the question, while your at it ladies, you should ask does yours?
 
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For those interested in reading a decent book on this subject, I would recommend "Men and Women in the Church" by Sarah Sumner. I don't agree with all that it has to say, but I think it asks important questions and is a good starting point for honestly engaging the subject.