Book of Enoch, chapter 6

[DP]

Used to be a good Facebook site that had many photocopies of the original newspaper articles dating back in the 1800s to 1900s of various giant skeletal bones found in the Americas. I recall many of them Smithsonian reps showed up and took the bones back for study. Some of those reps admitted the large size of the skeletons in the newspaper articles. I looked for that Facebook site and apparently it has been taken down, no wonder.

But here's another reference to those kind of news articles, just not photocopies of the original articles. Yet it should be easy to go look in Microfiche at library somewhere to find the originals, if they still exist, and thus verify these on this site.

Newspaper Accounts of Giants - Jason Colavito

 

[disciplemike]

Believe what you want, but this much is clear from Scripture.
Angels could take on human form and walk, talk, eat, have their feet washed, handle a sword, and etc,etc.
Why would anyone believe their other anatomical parts were missing or not useable?

 

[disciplemike]

Enoch, Chapter 11...

And in those days I will open the store chamber of blessing which are in the heaven,
so as to send them down upon the earth over the work and labor of the children of men.
Enoch 11.1

 

[Sheepman]

Moving on to Chapter 7...

And they [daughters of men] became pregnant,
and they bare great giants,
whose height was three hundred ells:
Enoch 7.3

Yes!
This is really hard to expose myself to ridicule. But the times are strange.
But I saw a documentary calle "there are no forests on flat earth." On youtube.
Its obviously a nerdy doc. But just look at the arizona landscape, the mesas, the petrified wood forest in arizona. Compare the mesas with root stumps of for ex. Redwood. And on and on.

Just imagine if "the devils tower" is a petrified root stump", the height of it. And when i comes to the stars...they could be very close. The distance to the stars is only a theory. There could be fields like the van allen belt inbetween us and the stars and other layers we yet dont understand. Elements wich prideful men dont want to take into consideration while taking fast decisions for mankind about whats true and not true.

A wild world of speculations while the Bible and rekommended literature revealed it all in essence 2000-4000+ years ago.

 

[disciplemike]

Yes!
This is really hard to expose myself to ridicule. But the times are strange.
But I saw a documentary calle "there are no forests on flat earth." On youtube.
Its obviously a nerdy doc. But just look at the arizona landscape, the mesas, the petrified wood forest in arizona. Compare the mesas with root stumps of for ex. Redwood. And on and on.

Just imagine if "the devils tower" is a petrified root stump", the height of it. And when i comes to the stars...they could be very close. The distance to the stars is only a theory. There could be fields like the van allen belt inbetween us and the stars and other layers we yet dont understand. Elements wich prideful men dont want to take into consideration while taking fast decisions for mankind about whats true and not true.

A wild world of speculations while the Bible and rekommended literature revealed it all in essence 2000-4000+ years ago.

top of the morning to you brother.
may your day be blessed!

 

[disciplemike]

Enoch, Chapter 12...

Enoch, thou scribe of righteousness, go,
declare to the Watchers of the heaven who have left the high heaven, the holy eternal place,
and have defiled themselves with women,
and have done as the children of the earth do,
and have taken unto themselves wives:
Ye have wrought great destruction on the earth:
Enoch 12.4

 

[posthuman]

Moving on to Chapter 8...

And Azazel taught men to make swords, and knives, and shields, and breastplates,
and made known to them the metals of the earth and the art of working them,
and bracelets, and ornaments,
and the use of antimony,
and the beautifying of the eyelids,
and all kinds of costly stones,
and all coloring tinctures.
Enoch 8.1

" . . Blame it all
on Azazel . . " ​

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[tanakh]

Whether or not this is true, it is totally irrelevant. Yes, there were other books mentioned in the bible, but they are not scripture. Only scripture comes from God's mouth. "All scripture is God-breathed, and is useful for correcting and training in righteousness." God's word is established and firm.

Firstly the book of Enoch is included in Bibles used by the Ethiopian and Syrian churches also included is the Book of Jasher
and 1 Clement. The quote regarding ''all scripture'' depends on what an individual regards as scripture. There was no
universally approved Bible for over three hundred years and various books were used by different churches including
such as The Epistle of Barnabas and the Shepherd of Hermas. The books in the Bible were written by people guided by the Holy Spirit but were also shaped by what was thought to be acceptable in their day. As I said in an earlier post. We would be arrested for some of the ideas of Morality found in the Bible that includes Rape, Incest and killing Babylonian babies also killing rebellious Sons and Witches. Some of these things have resulted in atrocities carried out by people who thought they were doing the work of God.

 

[disciplemike]

Moving on the Chapter 13...

And they besought me to draw up a petition for them
that they might find forgiveness,
and to read their petition in the presence of the Lord of heaven.
Enoch 13.4

 

[Ariel82]

Moving on the Chapter 13...

And they besought me to draw up a petition for them
that they might find forgiveness,
and to read their petition in the presence of the Lord of heaven.
Enoch 13.4

2 Peter: 2. 1. But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction. 2. And many shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of.

4. For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment;

20. For if after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, they are again entangled therein, and overcome, the latter end is worse with them than the beginning. 21. For it had been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than, after they have known it, to turn from the holy commandment delivered unto them. 22. But it is happened unto them according to the true proverb, The dog is turned to his own vomit again; and the sow that was washed to her wallowing in the mire.

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We know that if someone repents, God forgives and heals and restores the person.

The book of Enoch attacks that assurance by implying that God does not forgive, even though the angels asked Enoch to mediate between them for forgiveness.

Many things are wrong with this picture.

1. It imples that the fallen angels were repent and God still did not forgive them, making God the unfair judge.
2. Satan isn't repentant. He continues to deceive and try and tempt people away from God as seen when he tried to tempt Jesus. The fallen angels aren't repentant, they want power and control.
3. Why ask Enoch to mediate and not Jesus?

Where is the mention of Jesus or are there only AntiChrist like prophecies?

 

[trofimus]

Many things are wrong with this picture.

1. It imples that the fallen angels were repent and God still did not forgive them, making God the unfair judge.
2. Satan isn't repentant. He continues to deceive and try and tempt people away from God as seen when he tried to tempt Jesus. The fallen angels aren't repentant, they want power and control.
3. Why ask Enoch to mediate and not Jesus?

1. There is nothing unfair about this. Mercy is not "fair", its a gift.
2. We dont know what fallen angels are or are not.
3. Because Jesus is the mediator between man and God, thats why He had to become fully man. We dont know whether He became fully angel, so there is no reason to think He is medator also for them.

 

[GandalfTheWhite]

We know that if someone repents, God forgives and heals and restores the person.

The book of Enoch attacks that assurance by implying that God does not forgive, even though the angels asked Enoch to mediate between them for forgiveness.

Many things are wrong with this picture.

1. It imples that the fallen angels were repent and God still did not forgive them, making God the unfair judge.
2. Satan isn't repentant. He continues to deceive and try and tempt people away from God as seen when he tried to tempt Jesus. The fallen angels aren't repentant, they want power and control.
3. Why ask Enoch to mediate and not Jesus?

I am not defending the book of Enoch but just a few comments on your remarks

1. No matter if the angels repented they can't be forgiven because they are already in their permanent state (or bodies). God asked Adam and Eve to leave the garden before the eat of the fruit of life because then they would have been in their permanent bodies without a chance of repentance.
2. I agree with this. Satan is hungry for power and will deceive us.
3. My question to you is why did Moses mediate for Israel with ABBA Father? He begged that the nation would not be destroyed.

 

[RBA238]

Enoch's original writings would definitely have pre-dated Job. But the Book of Enoch that we have today wasn't written by Enoch. At the very earliest it's from around 300BC, but it's possibly much more recent.

Sounds to me the Book of Enoch was written by that famous mentor of all liars Satan.

 

[Jimbone]

There is no reason to believe either Jesus or the disciples quoted a book called Enoch . Its simply a private interpretation of someone who wanted to make giants aliens possessed by angel-body snatchers through procreation. Good Hollywood stuff.

You know what I see as just as disturbing? The caviler way so many can just toss it aside as if it's not possible, like it makes no sense, and how much trust they have in their own intellect along with the trust they have in worldly "experts". As if these people can't be deceived and like they have Truth when they openly claim to hate the very God that created them and that is the ONLY TRUTH. Now I'm not saying we should buy anything wholesale no matter who it may come from, but the arrogant way you just wave this off as nothing shows a very closed mind unable to accept anything you don't want to look at. I have found that it fits this world and what we seen around us past, present, and future heads and shoulders above any other alternative, from the gods of mythology, to genetic tampering in science today. It all fits perfactly in my experience. Please give me a better explanation for everything we find in reality that trumps this worldview, please and thank you.

 

[trofimus]

Sounds to me the Book of Enoch was written by that famous mentor of all liars Satan.

What exactly would satan gain from this book?

 

[RBA238]

What exactly would satan gain from this book?

What would Satan Gain you ask? Simply more idiots who beleive his lies and bag of tricks.
Jesus calls Satan "The Father" of all liars in John 8 verse 44....And politically speaking, ole Satan has done a masterful job with Hillary and Obama and most others rooted in Washington.

 

[tanakh]

What would Satan Gain you ask? Simply more idiots who beleive his lies and bag of tricks.
Jesus calls Satan "The Father" of all liars in John 8 verse 44....And politically speaking, ole Satan has done a masterful job with Hillary and Obama and most others rooted in Washington.

Did ole Satan have a hand in writing the Bible? Among other things found unacceptable to modern morality is the concept of slave ownership. Slave ownership was defended by those who practiced it by appealing to the Bible and was a major cause of your Civil War. You are still suffering from its repercussions today.

 

[trofimus]

What would Satan Gain you ask? Simply more idiots who beleive his lies and bag of tricks.
Jesus calls Satan "The Father" of all liars in John 8 verse 44....And politically speaking, ole Satan has done a masterful job with Hillary and Obama and most others rooted in Washington.

I dont care about Obama, Hillary or Washington, can you answer me, what is so wrong in the Book of Henoch, that Satan has to be the author of it?

 

[tanakh]

Used to be a good Facebook site that had many photocopies of the original newspaper articles dating back in the 1800s to 1900s of various giant skeletal bones found in the Americas. I recall many of them Smithsonian reps showed up and took the bones back for study. Some of those reps admitted the large size of the skeletons in the newspaper articles. I looked for that Facebook site and apparently it has been taken down, no wonder.

But here's another reference to those kind of news articles, just not photocopies of the original articles. Yet it should be easy to go look in Microfiche at library somewhere to find the originals, if they still exist, and thus verify these on this site.

Newspaper Accounts of Giants - Jason Colavito

I had a copy of a Fiction paperback based on this idea. A team of Archaeologists find giant remains in a remote desert area and were hunted down by mysterious government agents. Unfortunately I lost it before I reached the end. I cant remember the title or Author but if anyone out there knows I would like to get another copy of it.

 

[RBA238]

Did ole Satan have a hand in writing the Bible? Among other things found unacceptable to modern morality is the concept of slave ownership. Slave ownership was defended by those who practiced it by appealing to the Bible and was a major cause of your Civil War. You are still suffering from its repercussions today.

Slavery is not condoned by God. Slavery like all carnal minded man's invention is from evil.