are there any universalists here?????
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However hell looks like when that time comes. I do know that it will be something that people choose on their own and it will be a manifestation of the love of God and the goodness of God burning them as they are in His presence.
Ever read how Jesus said to do good to those that despite you and in doing so it "heaps coals of fire on their heads?" The doing of goodness and love towards them burns them in some way.
I believe in a universal atonement by Christ's work for all man-kind but I am not a universalists. At best I can say I am hopeful for all people but I believe scripture is clear - some do reject Christ and His sacrifice to take away the sin of the world and thus that sin still remains on them.
The wrath of God had come with a vengeance to attack the sin that was destroying His beloved creation. Be caught in the presence of God with the sin of unbelief in Christ and it's going to be a fearful thing.
Ever read how Jesus said to do good to those that despite you and in doing so it "heaps coals of fire on their heads?" The doing of goodness and love towards them burns them in some way.
I believe in a universal atonement by Christ's work for all man-kind but I am not a universalists. At best I can say I am hopeful for all people but I believe scripture is clear - some do reject Christ and His sacrifice to take away the sin of the world and thus that sin still remains on them.
The wrath of God had come with a vengeance to attack the sin that was destroying His beloved creation. Be caught in the presence of God with the sin of unbelief in Christ and it's going to be a fearful thing.
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Then how will we swallow that Christ suffered the same punishment on the cross? When we see the depth of our sin and our consequence for it, it makes Christ more awesome and amazing in his person and work. It is as though hell was created, not just to punish and glorify his justice, but to show his children how much he condescended in love for us...wow
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If he broke the covenant that would have given him eternal life, him and his posterity would fall into the consequences of breaking that covenant, which was damnation. Christ came to fulfill another covenant that will ensure his people to eternal life, and his terms were to live under the law and die for the sin of the world. Since Christ has obeyed his covenant, the fallen posterity of Adam in his covenant may by grace be partakers with Christ and his blessings by faith in him. All in Adam die, all in Christ will be made alive.
It's there actually.
It's described vividly and in great detail.
The problem is... Christians eyes aren't opened to it.
Like I've been pointing out, Hell (one of the three) is the Womb.
Read this verse...
Isaiah 14:15
"Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit"
The 'Sides of the Pit' are the Ovaries in a woman's Uterus.
The Lake of Fire is a portal back to the Womb.
The Lake of Fire comes from the Old Testament from the Valley of the Son of Hinnom.
The Children 'passed through the fire' to an entity called Moloch.
Moloch was the Sacred Cow of Hathor that was worshipped then.
Moloch is a representation of Hathor and the Womb... the Golden Calf...
It's described vividly and in great detail.
The problem is... Christians eyes aren't opened to it.
Like I've been pointing out, Hell (one of the three) is the Womb.
Read this verse...
Isaiah 14:15
"Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit"
The 'Sides of the Pit' are the Ovaries in a woman's Uterus.
The Lake of Fire is a portal back to the Womb.
The Lake of Fire comes from the Old Testament from the Valley of the Son of Hinnom.
The Children 'passed through the fire' to an entity called Moloch.
Moloch was the Sacred Cow of Hathor that was worshipped then.
Moloch is a representation of Hathor and the Womb... the Golden Calf...
Yes, Ephesians shows us the Unity Jesus brings all factions on Earth now, but Universalism cannot be true if we take God's Word to be true:
1 John 5:11-12: "And this is the testimony: God has given us eternal life and this life is in His Son, he who has the Son has life; he who does not have the Son of God does not have life." Thus, I too - reject the false teachings of Universalism.
1 John 5:11-12: "And this is the testimony: God has given us eternal life and this life is in His Son, he who has the Son has life; he who does not have the Son of God does not have life." Thus, I too - reject the false teachings of Universalism.
For the very reason that to come to new birth, to be born-again, one must place faith in Christ, believe in the Son of God. Where as Adam's sin condemned all men, Christ's sacrifice has made available to all men salvation. However, this righteousness is one of faith, and in so doing (placing faith), one then becomes a child of God by the Spirit of Adoption (the Holy Spirit). So it is not that Adam is greater, it is that God requires faith. Jesus is the propitiation for the sins of the world (all of them), yet to receive this forgiveness one must believe the Gospel.
The check is there, people need to turn it in. In other words, salvation is available to all (its universally available to anyone that would believe). Yet not all universally accept Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior and believe what He has done, rather they want nothing to do with Him or have confidence in self.
Universalism is a false doctrine, and while it may seem merciful it is tyrannical. God doesn't force people to love Him, He simply grants the invitation. Universalism presupposes that it is more merciful that all would be saved, and indeed it is God's desire and yet one that He will not have, sadly. He cares for all His creation, but not all of them will be saved for a number of reasons which ultimately tie into rejecting Jesus Christ.
Scripture is clear when it comes to Hell, and where the seed falls. Not all will be saved, there will be gnashing of teeth. It isn't pretty and its not supposed to be. It isn't a threat, but simply the reality of rejecting God, of which all good comes from. If you choose to stay in the dark, then you do not get the benefits of the light. So if you consider all that is pure, holy, and good about God, to dismiss Him and to be apart from that, what will surround you? Not things of the light.
With such a sad reality, there then comes the Gospel. Not an ultimatum of demand, but of circumstance. Humanity is condemned, but Christ came to save the world and not condemn it. Did He fail? No, salvation is available to all that would believe. That is the caveat. Faith.
The check is there, people need to turn it in. In other words, salvation is available to all (its universally available to anyone that would believe). Yet not all universally accept Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior and believe what He has done, rather they want nothing to do with Him or have confidence in self.
Universalism is a false doctrine, and while it may seem merciful it is tyrannical. God doesn't force people to love Him, He simply grants the invitation. Universalism presupposes that it is more merciful that all would be saved, and indeed it is God's desire and yet one that He will not have, sadly. He cares for all His creation, but not all of them will be saved for a number of reasons which ultimately tie into rejecting Jesus Christ.
Scripture is clear when it comes to Hell, and where the seed falls. Not all will be saved, there will be gnashing of teeth. It isn't pretty and its not supposed to be. It isn't a threat, but simply the reality of rejecting God, of which all good comes from. If you choose to stay in the dark, then you do not get the benefits of the light. So if you consider all that is pure, holy, and good about God, to dismiss Him and to be apart from that, what will surround you? Not things of the light.
With such a sad reality, there then comes the Gospel. Not an ultimatum of demand, but of circumstance. Humanity is condemned, but Christ came to save the world and not condemn it. Did He fail? No, salvation is available to all that would believe. That is the caveat. Faith.
The wages of sin is consistently taught throughout Scripture as being
death, and Jesus took the penalty for sin upon Himself for all who place
their faith in Him. Those who do not believe, those who refuse to accept
God as sovereign Lord of life, those who reject His principles, have their
names blotted out of the Lamb's book of life and pass into the second death.
Eternal life is promised only to those who are covered by the blood of the Lamb.
death, and Jesus took the penalty for sin upon Himself for all who place
their faith in Him. Those who do not believe, those who refuse to accept
God as sovereign Lord of life, those who reject His principles, have their
names blotted out of the Lamb's book of life and pass into the second death.
Eternal life is promised only to those who are covered by the blood of the Lamb.
If universalism is true, it seems the Son went and died for a cause His Father thought unnecessary. And if you've read Scripture that's not the Jesus or God I know. Never did Jesus over step His Father, and if you know the Father you know the Son. This Universalism is actually an absurd concept.
And I haven't even started on the payment of sins issue...Smile.
And I haven't even started on the payment of sins issue...Smile.
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