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[Grace777x70]

G777, are you seriously defending Benny Hinn and attacking fellow Christians that call him out on his lies and twisting of scripture?

What do you believe biblical discernment?

I don't want to hear rhetoric of slander and websites, etc

I want to know, are we suppose to learn discernment?

I am standing against the malice and slander that others think is ok to do to others in the body of Christ.

This rag magazine article is de-meaning someone before the facts are even in. That is what I am standing against.

Why don't we vilify women teachers? We know that there are many in the body of Christ that believe they shouldn't be teaching in a congregation over men and yet they do it every week. Why shouldn't they bite and devour these women teachers? In their minds - these women teachers are in "heresy".

Why don't these people use discernment and rip apart these women teachers for their "heresy"?

Who here has all their doctrine correct in the eyes of someone else?

If people want to display their malice and slander others before the facts are even out - then go for it but I am saying it is ungodly behavior fueled by the flesh no matter how we try to mask it with the heresy call to anything "I or my group" doesn't believe.

I can't make people act with integrity and Christian behavior but I can speak against the hypocrisy and the malice that fuels it.

It's time to grow up and use some of that supposed discernment to see malice and slander and the biting and devouring of each other for what it really is.

I'm out of this foul demonically inspired thread and I'll leave it to those that love to bite and devour others in the body of Christ to have a free for all and continue to exhibit malice and slander all to their flesh's content.

I see no difference between this malice and slander then those that believe it's ok to live the homosexual lifestyle. They are in the same lists as works of the flesh.

 

[imfinallyfree]

How much money that guy made off God?

What's his taxes gonna look like?

 

[preacher4truth]

It's the first time I've ever witnessed an alleged sheep try to protect a wolf from shepherd's who care about the sheep, but, that's what grace7 does time and again. Hmmm...interesting to say the least.

 

[Stephen63]

What a bunch of garbage from that Babylon Bee thing - lightening from his fingers. What malice that rag magazine brings and promotes.

Why not wait until the whole story comes out to see what really happened before we malign someone with our malice and slander?

Perhaps there has been wrong doing - it wouldn't be the first ministry which has afflicted every denomination and belief in the Christian community.

What if there is no wrong doing? Then we have just slandered a fellow believer in the body of Christ.

Here's what we look like to the world when we act like this to each other.

If you don't know Hinn's not a believer, there's no Holy Spirit in you.

Every time, you defend ungodly people as if they were holy.

This is what I think of your shenanigans:

Actually, it's not nearly big enuff.

 

[Stephen63]

It's the first time I've ever witnessed an alleged sheep try to protect a wolf from shepherd's who care about the sheep, but, that's what grace7 does time and again. Hmmm...interesting to say the least.

A great deal of emphasis needs to be put on "ALLEGED".

 

[Ariel82]

Absurd.

1. I dont care if it's a man or a woman, if they lie and steal and get rich by taking money from widows to pay for their expensive houses instead of feed orphans as they claim, then there are issues that need to be address.

2. Cut and paste all you want, it won't change my stance.

3. You don't like the website or the use of satire. Fine, but will you defend people who abuse the sheep? Yet YOU attack so it makes no sense.

4. I am one for loving correction and prayer, but I also say there is a need for discernment.

5. So are you for or against homosexuals, G777?

6. False prophets, clouds without rain are what the Bible calls men who make promises of MATERIAL WORLDLY wealth and health, that God did not promise.

 

[Ariel82]

Jude 1:12 ►
New International Version
These people are blemishes at your love feasts, eating with you without the slightest qualm--shepherds who feed only themselves. They are clouds without rain, blown along by the wind; autumn trees, without fruit and uprooted--twice dead.

They are wild waves of the sea, foaming up their shame; wandering stars, for whom blackest darkness has been reserved forever.

 

[Ariel82]

2 Peter 2New King James Version (NKJV)

Destructive Doctrines
2 But there were also false prophets among the people, even as there will be false teachers among you, who will secretly bring in destructive heresies, even denying the Lord who bought them, and bring on themselves swift destruction. 2 And many will follow their destructive ways, because of whom the way of truth will be blasphemed. 3 By covetousness they will exploit you with deceptive words; for a long time their judgment has not been idle, and their destruction does[a] not slumber.

They are spots and blemishes, carousing in their own deceptions while they feast with you, 14 having eyes full of adultery and that cannot cease from sin, enticing unstable souls. They have a heart trained in covetous practices, and are accursed children. 15 They have forsaken the right way and gone astray, following the way of Balaam the son of Beor, who loved the wages of unrighteousness; 16 but he was rebuked for his iniquity: a dumb donkey speaking with a man’s voice restrained the madness of the prophet.

17 These are wells without water, clouds carried by a tempest, for whom is reserved the blackness of darkness forever.[c]

Deceptions of False Teachers
18 For when they speak great swelling words of emptiness, they allure through the lusts of the flesh, through lewdness, the ones who have actually escaped[d] from those who live in error. 19 While they promise them liberty, they themselves are slaves of corruption; for by whom a person is overcome, by him also he is brought into bondage.

 

[preacher4truth]

Absurd.

1. I dont care if it's a man or a woman, if they lie and steal and get rich by taking money from widows to pay for their expensive houses instead of feed orphans as they claim, then there are issues that need to be address.

2. Cut and paste all you want, it won't change my stance.

3. You don't like the website or the use of satire. Fine, but will you defend people who abuse the sheep? Yet YOU attack so it makes no sense.

4. I am one for loving correction and prayer, but I also say there is a need for discernment.

5. So are you for or against homosexuals, G777?

6. False prophets, clouds without rain are what the Bible calls men who make promises of MATERIAL WORLDLY wealth and health, that God did not promise.

Useful, solid post Ariel.

 

[Ariel82]

God clearly warns us of men who will focus on the MATERIAL gain of wealth and health in this world just like Balaam did.

Why would we reject God's warnings?

 

[preacher4truth]

Imagine the punishment for turning the Gospel into some other gospel that seeks to gather followers by appealing to the lusts of their flesh, to material gain, and to covetous idolatry. Imagine being the "security guards" of these false teachers via protecting them from shepherd's.

 

[Ariel82]

Balaam
(B.C. 1451), the son of beor, a man endowed with the gift of prophecy. (Numbers 22:5) He is mentioned in conjunction with the five kings of Midian, apparently as a person of the same rank. (Numbers 31:8) cf. Numb 31:16 He seems to have lived at Pethor, (23:4; Numbers 22:5) on the river Euphrates, in Mesopotamia. Such was his reputation that when the Israelites were encamped in the plains of Moab, Balak, the king of Moab, sent for Balaam to curse them. Balaam at first was prohibited by God from going. He was again sent for by the king and again refused, but was at length allowed to go. He yielded to the temptations of riches and honor which Balak set before him; but God's anger was kindled at this manifestation of determined self-will, and the angel of the Lord stood in the way for an adversary against him. See (2 Peter 2:16) Balaam predicted a magnificent career for the people whom he was called to curse, but he nevertheless suggested to the Moabites the expedient of seducing them to commit fornication. The effect of this is recorded in (Numbers 25:1) ... A battle was afterwards fought against the Midianites, in which Balaam sided with them, and was slain by the sword of the people whom he had endeavored to curse. (Numbers 31:8)

Topical Bible: Balaam

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Men who teach others how to make God's people fall are like Balaam.

 

[Ariel82]

Just because G777 doesn't like this type of threads, doesn't mean he is evil.

Truthfully I don't care for them either, but i see the need sometimes.

 

[PennEd]

I don't know. This place has really been getting me down lately. I NEVER liked Benny Hinn, but to see brothers and sisters viciously attack Bruce is DISGUSTING!!!!

I'm sick to my stomach by it. This guy, day after day takes abuse, scorn, slander, and even hatred, by supposed brothers and sister in Christ, usually using some excuse like "well the Bible says we're supposed to call out false prophets and anyone who DARES say to let God deal with them".

All Bruce does is spread the love of Christ, and doesn't attack back, but usually just responds with MORE love.

SHAME on all of you!!

Please pray about your purpose here.

UGH!!

 

[Ariel82]

If that was true that all he did was spread love, I would not speak up.

However he posted a picture of wolves and trash heap.

That is not love.

I agree with G777 on a lot of things and I consider him a beloved brother, but in this I believe he is wrong in his judgement.

 

[preacher4truth]

Just because G777 doesn't like this type of threads, doesn't mean he is evil.

Ok, then let's use a consistent argument based off of yours: it doesn't mean he isn't evil either. However, that being said, he is an accomplice to false teachers and that is a fact.

Truthfully I don't care for them either, but i see the need sometimes.

This thread was based on a satirical article. He is so adamant to defend heresy he rushed in to do so in this thread. He is guilty by association and frankly needs brought to repentance. He has earned his open rebukes.

This is a serious subject and I'm not budging one inch for sake of the truth of the Gospel.

 

[Ariel82]

I don't know. I am just sick and tired of everyone fighting all the time.

Why must there be personal attacks?

Why can't we talk about doctrines without people taking it so personal?

 

[PeterJens]

If that was true that all he did was spread love, I would not speak up.
However he posted a picture of wolves and trash heap.
That is not love.
I agree with G777 on a lot of things and I consider him a beloved brother, but in this I believe he is wrong in his judgement.

g7 brings false teachers constantly to cc, supports their teaching, and when challenged
says, he supports some of it and not all, take what you will.

Jesus was plain about false teachers. They are a bad tree that produces bad fruit.

These teachers sin, are in rebellion against God, unrepentant sin, and so should be
caste out of the fellowship of believers. Those who support people in such a state
equally are guilty of the same sins their teachers are guilty of, and unless they repent
should be caste out of the fellowship of believers.

It is quite a simple biblical principle. Now because of my stand they want to do the
same thing to me, which makes me laugh, because it is meaningless. There justification
is because I believe scripture, which is neither sinful or wrong, and I obey Christ, which
they claim for themselves is impossible. But their own confession is enough to say they
are in unrepentant sin, and do not believe they are ever washed clean and acceptable to
God as they are, deemed righteous by faith.

Now in truth Ariel, you either compromise with g7, and loose it all, or draw a line, put
him over it. God is not mocked and judgement will fall. I have always cared more about
God than being nice to false teachers, you appear not so.

Praise the Lord he made a mockery of this world and its order, and established a priesthood
under the order of Melchizedek to the glory of God the Father, Amen.

 

[Ariel82]

Kettle meet pot...not even up to talking to you tonight PeterJens.

You want me to not "be nice to false teachers"?

Seriously, with your snide judgemental comments you want to hear me be "not nice"?

No you really don't PeterJens and I won't be tempted to do what God has taught me is wrong and un Christ like just because YOU judge me falsely also.

Now I have become what I hate...someone who makes a post about themselves instead of the issue at hand.

 

[Stephen63]

I don't know. This place has really been getting me down lately. I NEVER liked Benny Hinn, but to see brothers and sisters viciously attack Bruce is DISGUSTING!!!!

I'm sick to my stomach by it. This guy, day after day takes abuse, scorn, slander, and even hatred, by supposed brothers and sister in Christ, usually using some excuse like "well the Bible says we're supposed to call out false prophets and anyone who DARES say to let God deal with them".

All Bruce does is spread the love of Christ, and doesn't attack back, but usually just responds with MORE love.

SHAME on all of you!!

Please pray about your purpose here.

UGH!!

I almost stood up to applaud your performance..... almost.