Federal Agents Raid Finds...

[posthuman]

I am standing against the malice and slander that others think is ok to do to others in the body of Christ.

This rag magazine article is de-meaning someone before the facts are even in. That is what I am standing against.

i really do understand your point and i hate to see you getting misunderstood and pounced on over it.
the site the OP and i were posting from is meant to be humorous, and its written by and for Christians. thank you for your voice to remind us not to become mean spirited and to be careful not to devolve into slander & cursing.

i suppose it might be in poor taste for me to do so now, and forgive me if you don't get a laugh, but what i found really interesting about the article i reposted on page 1 is this statement:

At publishing time, sources had confirmed Hinn had attempted to blast the fleet of federal vehicles surrounding his ministry’s compound with a barrage of lightning from his fingertips, but had been unsuccessful.

which is really making me re-evaluate this video footage that has been publicly available for years:

[video=youtube;bhBU_WdSnmc]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bhBU_WdSnmc[/video]

i'm going to guess the federal agents didn't have enough faith?

[HR][/HR][HR][/HR]
it's jokes, brother. we got jokes.

the federal government poking around in religious institutions is scary, but false prophecy, charlatanism and making merchandise out of the gospel is scary too.

 

[Stephen63]

The truth of the matter is that Hinn is really being investigated by the postal service & the IRS.

 

[Rondonmon]

Yes I thought it was hilarious but I'm not uptight, so. Hey. Wondering. Paul exposed false teachers. You call him accuser of the brethren too?

Paul exposed those who were of Satan. Do you wish to bring evidence brother Benny is of Satan? Satan mixed truth with lies when he came to Eve in the Garden of Eden.

 

[Rockrz]

Paul exposed those who were of satan. Do you wish to bring evidence brother Benny is of satan? Satan mixed truth with lies when he came to Eve in the Garden of Eden.

There... I fixed it so 'satan' is not capitalized.

he is a defeated foes and as such does not deserve that much honor or respect.

 

[Ariel82]

Paul exposed those who were of satan. Do you wish to bring evidence brother Benny is of Satan? Satan mixed truth with lies when he came to Eve in the Garden of Eden.

He has since removed it from his website, but it used to be there....

But then there was something more this man of God added:

Benny, God has laid it on my heart to plant a seed of $2.5 million into your ministry, but God only wants me to make this gift if the ministry partners match the amount within 90 days! I feel so strongly that He wants them to be part of the supernatural wealth transfer that is coming to every believer who will obey God’s Word.

What could I say? Immediately I saw the hand of God in this. Our Lord could have simply used our friend to plant the seed and be blessed immeasurably by it. But it was so evident that God wants to provide an even greater miracle than the $2.5 million. He desires for our partners and ministry friends to be blessed as they join together with this precious man of God by planting a much larger seed into the work of the Lord, and, in so doing, doubling the blessings.

Prosperity Gospel Heresy Strikes Again - False Prophet Benny Hinn Begs For Millions | Beginning And End

http://www.bennyhinn.org/emailletters/9236/breaking-the-bondage-of-debt-during-the-next-90-days

 

[Rockrz]

He has since removed it from his website, but it used to be there....

Wow! I was not aware the Apostle Paul ever had a website...

That fella was certainly way ahead of his time fo sho

 

[Ariel82]

Here are two non "heretic hunter" websites that speak out against the lies of the FALSE prosperity "gospel".

The Bible does talk about SPIRITUAL prosperity, not material wealth and success as the world measures it.

Unholy Trinity: Outraged at TBN's Brazen False Teaching -Spiritual Living, Christian Faith

How the 'Prosperity Gospel' Made Me Hate God for Years

 

[Rockrz]

The Bible does talk about SPIRITUAL prosperity, not material wealth and success as the world measures it.

So, I take it that you have ZERO material possessions and are in fact homeless posting your replies from a computer at a local library???

If not... you are a hypocrite!

 

[Ariel82]

Wow! I was not aware the Apostle Paul ever had a website...

That fella was certainly way ahead of his time fo sho

Haha (DUCK and weave, we can spar later)

You know I was answering this challenge

"bring evidence brother Benny is of Satan?"


I don't know if is "of Satan" but he definitely is deceived and deceiving others and looks like a wolf and false prophet fleecing the sheep of their money and making false promises he claims are from God.

I would not call him a brother and believe we all need to pray that God convict him of his sins and He repent of his lies.

I don't say that lightly but his actions need to be confronted before he harms more people.

 

[preacher4truth]

Paul exposed those who were of Satan. Do you wish to bring evidence <snip> Benny is of Satan? Satan mixed truth with lies when he came to Eve in the Garden of Eden.

Yes, Satan mixes truth with lies. So does Hinn and apparently you help to cover that up.

Consider:

"Alexander the coppersmith did me great harm; the Lord will repay him according to his deeds." 2 Timothy 4:14

Consider:

This charge I entrust to you, Timothy, my child, in accordance with the prophecies previously made about you, that by them you may wage the good warfare, holding faith and a good conscience. By rejecting this, some have made shipwreck of their faith, among whom are Hymenaeus and Alexander, whom I have handed over to Satan that they may learn not to blaspheme.

Consider:

For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ. And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works. 2 Corinthians 11:13-14

Well, look at that, Paul likens false teachers to Satan. And he talks about their fruit in many passages which fruit Hinn bears. But you're protecting Hinn. Hmmm.

Consider:

I am astonished that you are so quickly deserting him who called you in the grace of Christ and are turning to a different gospel - not that there is another one, but there are some who trouble you and want to distort the gospel of Christ. But even if we or an angel of heaven should preach to you a gospel contrary to the one we preached to you, let him be accursed. As we have said before, so now I say again: If anyone is preaching to you a gospel contrary to the one you received, let him be accursed. Galatians 1:6-10

Yes, it must be the one above because Hinn and his false gospel are condemned. Maybe instead of protecting the wolves you should read your Bible a bit, eh?

Yes, you should.

Now, what do the Scriptures say (not what do you feel about me so try being objective) about those in the kingdom who are covetous, who preach gain is godliness, who make merchandise of the sheep, and concerning ministers who are greedy of gain? What do the Scriptures say about that?

I wonder what it says about people like you who protect false teachers and go after those who preach truth? Jannes, Jambres? Look into it because that's what you need to be concerned about.

By the way, Benny is no brother and it isn't my duty to prove he's of Satan but to expose he and yourself and others as false teachers propagating a false gospel for the protection of the sheep from the wolves and goats.

 

[Ariel82]

So, I take it that you have ZERO material possessions and are in fact homeless posting your replies from a computer at a local library???

If not... you are a hypocrite!

And you purposely misunderstand what Biblical prosperity is.

It means everything we have is a blessing from God. We are told to be stewards of God's wealth and use it to bless others.

I recognize everything I have are blessings from God and could just as easily be taken away.

My question is: do you only love God because you want Him to bless you with material gifts

or do you love Him because you realize how unworthy you are and God loves you and blesses you anyway?

God gives me what I need and if I don't have it then God is saying I don't really need it.

In the end all we need is Him.

 

[Ariel82]

I am rich beyond words because God has given me SPIRITUAL wealth and my treasure is in Heaven with Him.

What do you treasure?

Where is your heart?

 

[Ariel82]

1 Timothy 6:17-19 ESV
As for the rich in this present age, charge them not to be haughty, nor to set their hopes on the uncertainty of riches, but on God, who richly provides us with everything to enjoy. They are to do good, to be rich in good works, to be generous and ready to share, thus storing up treasure for themselves as a good foundation for the future, so that they may take hold of that which is truly life.

 

[PeterJens]

Lay it out there Peter.

Are you calling me a hypocrite and a false teacher who supports giving people poison or are you just labeling G777 that?

You don't find your post an attack?

You analyse too much.
From the first few posts of g7 I knew his approach.

The guys he listens to are just not from the Lord.
And people will judge and call me lots of things, Jesus tells us this is how we will
be treated. And it does not matter.

Loving ones enemies is knowing why they fail and addressing that. If they refuse
and continue in their error, there is nothing left to do.

Life is actually very simple. Get clean, get pure, walk in love and things become
plain. So much of life is striving after dreams that will never come into existance
and people hate those around them, and spend their time is futility.

What shows me peoples error is their denial of these realities and taking ones
way of expression as something to attack or provoke into sin.

Like Benny, I had nothing against him at first, knew little of his approach.
Then I read a testimony from a close friend of Benny, the claims of miracles at his rallies,
the blasphemy of his teachings, his love of money and exploitation of others.

A church I used to go to got into him, and went off the rails, and many of my friends
were greatly saddened.

In the end there is no compromise for me with this heresy. It comes from aspiring
pastors who want glory and impact on a national and global scale.

The great thing about taking a stand, is it is a stand, and before the Lord it is what
walking in love and righteousness means. John the baptist died because he objected
to Herod marrying his brothers wife, he died as a result. We are called to just be ones
who are counted in the Kingdom and walk in the light.

Ariel you have changed nothing in g7, eg, dc, just compromised your own standing, and
they just regard you as a hypocrite. These guys will always say nice things about people
who help their agenda rather than walk as a light in the darkness. Loving is not compromising
ones principles. g7 loves wolf pictures, because in his heart he sees that in his enemies, and
regards us as totally evil, dogs and pigs eating vomit and wallowing in filth. But he will say in
some strange way we are also saved!!! Sure thing...

 

[PeterJens]

Let us get real. Everyone will make assumptions.

They will put you out of the synagogue; in fact, the time is coming when anyone who kills you will think they are offering a service to God.
John 16:2

And no matter what we say they will still behave as they feel is right, even
though it is just nuts. It is because assumptions drive so much in life, and the
wrong assumptions drive people to terrible acts. Look at Saul and his deeds
against the church, or both fascist dictators or communism. We will die, and
there will not be an answer, just stating the truth and praising God.

 

[Rockrz]

God gives me what I need and if I don't have it then God is saying I don't really need it.

Yep, sounds like it's all about YOU...

 

[PeterJens]

Though I am free and belong to no one, I have made myself a slave to everyone, to win as many as possible.
1 Cor 9:19

Talking about things from ones own perspective is being honest and objective.
The reason is, we actually only ever have our own perspective, though we love
to believe we are objective, it is part of being spiritually mature to know we have
to trust God and do as He says and not lean on our own understanding.

Trust in the Lord with all your heart and lean not on your own understanding
Prov 3:5

 

[Ariel82]

Yep, sounds like it's all about YOU...

No, but it does say something about YOU that you focus on others and miss GOD completely.

 

[tanakh]

That is so wickedly funny. They must have been members of the God Squad

 

[CeileDe]

This bickering is not Godly and brings shame to the entire body of Christ.

2 Timothy 2:23-24 (NASB)
[SUP]23 [/SUP] But refuse foolish and ignorant speculations, knowing that they produce quarrels.
[SUP]24 [/SUP] The Lord's bond-servant must not be quarrelsome, but be kind to all, able to teach, patient when wronged,

Galatians 5:22-23 (NASB)
[SUP]22 [/SUP] But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness,
[SUP]23 [/SUP] gentleness, self-control; against such things there is no law.