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I don't know. This place has really been getting me down lately. I NEVER liked Benny Hinn, but to see brothers and sisters viciously attack Bruce is DISGUSTING!!!!

I'm sick to my stomach by it. This guy, day after day takes abuse, scorn, slander, and even hatred, by supposed brothers and sister in Christ, usually using some excuse like "well the Bible says we're supposed to call out false prophets and anyone who DARES say to let God deal with them".

All Bruce does is spread the love of Christ, and doesn't attack back, but usually just responds with MORE love.

SHAME on all of you!!

Please pray about your purpose here.

UGH!!

 
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I don't know. I am just sick and tired of everyone fighting all the time.

Why must there be personal attacks?

Why can't we talk about doctrines without people taking it so personal?
Oh, c'mon, can't we all get along?

The answer: NO.

2 Corinthians 6:
14Do not be bound together with unbelievers; for what partnership have righteousness and lawlessness, or what fellowship has light with darkness? 15Or what harmony has Christ with Belial, or what has a believer in common with an unbeliever?
16Or what agreement has the temple of God with idols? For we are the temple of the living God; just as God said,
“I WILL DWELL IN THEM AND WALK AMONG THEM;
AND I WILL BE THEIR GOD, AND THEY SHALL BE MY PEOPLE.
17“Therefore, COME OUT FROM THEIR MIDST AND BE SEPARATE,” says the Lord.
“AND DO NOT TOUCH WHAT IS UNCLEAN;
And I will welcome you.
18“And I will be a father to you,
And you shall be sons and daughters to Me,”
Says the Lord Almighty.
 
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(Thought I'd post this here as well)


Not that the Word of God is EVER enough for the idolatry of WoF/Prosperity lies:

But those who desire to be rich fall into temptation, into a snare, into many senseless and harmful desires that plunge people into ruin and destruction. 1 Timothy 6:9.



...and they still follow the false gospel...and fight against those who expose the false teachers.

Unreal.
 
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P4T,

What do you seek to accomplish with this thread?

Just curious?

Do you actually want to help people stuck in the lie of the prosperity movement?

Or just jab at folks?

It's not about "getting along" its about teaching God's way and not the world's way.

Did Jesus condemn Saul for being a part of Stephen's death or did He open his eyes and make him into the Apostle Paul.

We don't know how God will use the people around us.

I would that we strive to be more like Stephen and Jesus (who prayed for those who killed them to be forgiven) and less like Saul and his hunt to kill Christians.

If that is weak,then i will be weak and rely upon God's strength.
 
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P4T,

What do you seek to accomplish with this thread?

Just curious?

Do you actually want to help people stuck in the lie of the prosperity movement?

Or just jab at folks?

It's not about "getting along" its about teaching God's way and not the world's way.

Did Jesus condemn Saul for being a part of Stephen's death or did He open his eyes and make him into the Apostle Paul.

We don't know how God will use the people around us.

I would that we strive to be more like Stephen and Jesus (who prayed for those who killed them to be forgiven) and less like Saul and his hunt to kill Christians.

If that is weak,then i will be weak and rely upon God's strength.
Apples and oranges concerning Saul and Stephen. Use passages instead that deal with false teachings and teachers maybe? Also, this thread was started as a satirical laugh. G7 went on the attack here, I responded.

I've shared many times Scripture about handling false teachers.

Lastly? I don't answer to you, Ariel, nor do I concern myself that defending the Gospel and myself against false teachers means to some taking a jab. But I do know for certain that was the intention of your above post.

That's a fact as you've done it before and you're doing it again.

Ariel, you are trying hard to make enemies both of those who stand for truth and of those who preach error. Maybe you should consider yourself and your motives instead of that of others? Sounds like a plan to me.
 
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Ariel82 speaks with forked tongue. It does not make sense to try to be for something and against something at the same time.
 
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Ariel82 speaks with forked tongue. It does not make sense to try to be for something and against something at the same time.
Note of interest is that after all this I was reading Titus 1 and this whole thing jumped out again, on rebuking false teachers, especially Titus 1:13.

In context these same false teachers were making making shameful gain (yes, it's a trait of false teachers) all the while the qualifications of an elder includes not being greedy of gain (1:7) as per God's instruction. This was to set the example between the true and the false teachers.

That would disqualify Osteen and many other from the ministry. But like I say, they (false prosperity preachers and their followers) won't let the Word of God get in their way, they'll just rip something out of context and pit it against clear instruction.

Is this practice deceiving and being deceived?
 
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So it seems..... so it seems.
For the record I cannot say she is always doing this on purpose. I sense that perhaps she is trying to play peace maker on both sides, and taking jabs more often than not on those defending truth. Make a stand on the Word and stick with it, or not. Make up one's mind?

But here's the thing, compromising is not making peace, and she needs to learn that, not just know that.
 
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Matt 10: 34Do not think that I came to bring peace on the earth; I did not come to bring peace, but a sword. 35“For I came to SET A MAN AGAINST HIS FATHER, AND A DAUGHTER AGAINST HER MOTHER, AND A DAUGHTER-IN-LAWAGAINST HER MOTHER-IN-LAW;36and A MANS ENEMIES WILL BE THE MEMBERS OF HIS HOUSEHOLD.
 
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37“He who loves father or mother more than Me is not worthy of Me; and he who loves son or daughter more than Me is not worthy of Me. 38“And he who does not take his cross and follow after Me is not worthy of Me.

He/she who loves false doctrine/false teachers more than Christ is not worthy of Him.
 

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You do know that the BabylonBee is satire, right? In fact, I follow BB on FB. It is my first (and sometimes only!) laugh of the day. The comments are also priceless.

As for mocking Hinn in these two posts, if the shoe fits, wear it! (I think it fits fabulously, probably because Benny had it custom made for his feet! LOL)

Once you follow the BB for a while, you will find they mock absolutely everything. There are no sacred cows or traditions that they don't mocke, sooner or later.

Really Grace777, for someone who is so against "the traditions of men" and telling people to break away from them, it is really hypocritical for you to say, "Yes, but my traditions are true, and they are the only ones that count!"

The only disgrace to Christianity I see, is that false prophets who fleece the flock are giving the name of Jesus a bad name, and driving people from their faith. Only yesterday, on FB, I had a long time friend comment she was losing her faith in God since her mother died of cancer, and her father suffers from some kind of mental illness. I gave a bit of my testimony about coming to grips with the fact that we live in a fallen world, things will not be perfect till Jesus returns. She was printing up the Bible passages I gave her, and posting them on her fridge to remind her than God is in control!

I was able to stand against this Word Faith heresy, that everyone should be healed, using the Word of God, not the Word of Faith. It is just so awful the way these heretics are stealing from desperate blind people, and have created a doctrine on healing that does not stand up to exegetical scrutiny! I have also met a suicidal person, who was sick, not healed, and then told it was his fault! Something about unconfessed sin, not having enough faith, or not claiming it enough, I assume? Another person I had to share what the Bible really says, and what a delusion the Word Faith movement is! (Not saying God does not heal, he does! But not on demand by some TV evangelist, looking for more money from poor people suffering and in pain, or poor, and think the lies these wolves preach are the truth!)

Not my opinion, in case you want to post that! And if you doubt me, I can start a whole new post about why Health and Wealth is a scam and a Bibilcal lie! BUT, the OP and the subsequent post by PH are satire. The problem with satire, for humourless people like you, is that it has to have an element of truth in it, to make it funny.

As for the post of the garbage pile again, for the upteenth dozen time, perhaps instead of chastising people because they disagree with your false doctrine, you need to look at the real wolves - those teachers leading the flock astray, and those who follow them. Or, maybe look at how much garbage you have in that pile, standing up against the truth of the Bible, and then calling out people who do care about sound doctrine!


More on the real meaning of wolves in the Bible. And it is NOT people arguing against teachers who preach another gospel! It is the preachers and shepherds wo are condemned by Jesus and echoed in Paul's words!

"Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing but inwardly are ravenous wolves." Matt 7:15

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I am the good shepherd. The good shepherd lays down his life for the sheep.12 He who is a hired hand and not a shepherd, who does not own the sheep, sees the wolf coming and leaves the sheep and flees, and the wolf snatches them and scatters them.13 He flees because he is a hired hand and cares nothing for the sheep.14 I am the good shepherd. I know my own and my own know me,15 just as the Father knows me and I know the Father; and I lay down my life for the sheep." John 10:11-15

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I know that after my departure fierce wolves will come in among you, not sparing the flock;30 and from among your own selves will arise men speaking twisted things, to draw away the disciples after them." Acts 20:29-30


Perfect descriptions of men like Benny Hinn, Joel Osteen and Joseph Prince! And the other people who are pushing the false doctrine of Word of Faith!
 

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Just more malice and slander against others in the body of Christ because of some things viewed in scripture that is different then what they do.

It's time to grow up in the Lord and stop this biting and devouring others up. It's ungodly behavior no matter how much we try to disguise it with the "heresy" garbage.

It's just a disguise for the flesh. Maybe some people are off in their doctrine but who isn't in some form or other? Who in the world other then the self-proclaimed Greek scholars and some supposedly preachers of truth is perfect in all their doctrine?

What about women teachers? Are they are in heresy to some people in the body of Christ?

Should be start a thread exposing these women teachers as being the heretics that they are because some believers in the body of Christ think they should not be teaching men? Should we be making fun of them and de-meaning them in front of the world?

Should we erect websites and start threads to de-mean and slander these women that teach the scriptures to men in congregations like some here in CC say they do?

Should we put devil horns on their heads and put their faces and names in a wolf face with sheep skin on them?



Galatians 5:15-16 (NASB)
[SUP]15 [/SUP] But if you bite and devour one another, take care that you are not consumed by one another.

[SUP]16 [/SUP] But I say, walk by the Spirit, and you will not carry out the desire of the flesh.
Benny Hinn is no more in the flock than was Benny Hill.
 

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I am standing against the malice and slander that others think is ok to do to others in the body of Christ.

This rag magazine article is de-meaning someone before the facts are even in. That is what I am standing against.

Why don't we vilify women teachers? We know that there are many in the body of Christ that believe they shouldn't be teaching in a congregation over men and yet they do it every week. Why shouldn't they bite and devour these women teachers? In their minds - these women teachers are in "heresy".

Why don't these people use discernment and rip apart these women teachers for their "heresy"?

Who here has all their doctrine correct in the eyes of someone else?


If people want to display their malice and slander others before the facts are even out - then go for it but I am saying it is ungodly behavior fueled by the flesh no matter how we try to mask it with the heresy call to anything "I or my group" doesn't believe.

I can't make people act with integrity and Christian behavior but I can speak against the hypocrisy and the malice that fuels it.

It's time to grow up and use some of that supposed discernment to see malice and slander and the biting and devouring of each other for what it really is.

I'm out of this foul demonically inspired thread and I'll leave it to those that love to bite and devour others in the body of Christ to have a free for all and continue to exhibit malice and slander all to their flesh's content.

I see no difference between this malice and slander then those that believe it's ok to live the homosexual lifestyle. They are in the same lists as works of the flesh.
Hinn claims that the triune God is made up of nine and not 3. That God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit each have three persons...IOW, nine in the Godhead.

This guy, when we tell it for who he really is, is not in the family of God. He is a wolf eating up ppl.
 

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Benny is a Man of God*** lived near his ministry when I lived in Florida*** know people personally involved with his ministry*** he is real for God...
 

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You think that's funny? Remember, Satan is the accuser of the brethren. The IRS raiding someone, doesn't mean much in reality, we know they hate conservatives and Christians.
Yes I thought it was hilarious but I'm not uptight, so. Hey. Wondering. Paul exposed false teachers. You call him accuser of the brethren too?