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Can you give me an example of the best Bible prophecy that has come to fruition? And please do not use Prophecies that are only evidenced in the Bible itself. Because it's too easy to argue that the authors of the New Testament included fulfilled prophecies due to the fact that they have the Old Testament to go off
Sure! I can give you a whole bunch of them. How about over 300 prophesies written about Jesus that were all fulfilled?
We know for a fact that all the prophesies regarding Christ were written prior to Christ appearing in the flesh.
Yeah, and all of those who claimed that Christ had risen, who were beheaded, skinned alive, crucified, eaten by lions, etc., they all died gruesome deaths protecting a lie?
I guess they put a good one over on us.
We know for a fact that all the prophesies regarding Christ were written prior to Christ appearing in the flesh.
Yeah, and all of those who claimed that Christ had risen, who were beheaded, skinned alive, crucified, eaten by lions, etc., they all died gruesome deaths protecting a lie?
I guess they put a good one over on us.
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Gods creation is Millions of years old. The 6 day creation spoken of in Genesis is 6,000 years. II Peter 3:8.But beloved be not ignorant of this one thing that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years and a thousand years as one day. Peter also tells us there are three earth ages starting with verse 5. Many more places in the Bible tell us of these things. Gods word lines up with science perfectly. We were here in the first earth age in the spirit. Thanks to Satan we are now here in the flesh. We return to the spirit at Jesus return. Its all written and will happen just exactly as written.
Reasons To Believe : Fulfilled Prophecy: Evidence for the Reliability of the Bible
You will find 13 there.
You will find 13 there.
For all yoiu round earthers out there that REALLY want to KNOW.... Here is a video giving information propogated by Nasa Itself that we never landed on the MOON, Never get beyond Low earth Orbit ( 50 or so miles).
It is up to you...... To me God's WORD is worth exploring?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vYvxQiTFzFc
It is up to you...... To me God's WORD is worth exploring?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vYvxQiTFzFc
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You're the one contending a day is longer than 24 hours. Gen. 1:5 defines then there was evening and then there was morning -- the First Day. (If I didn't get the exact words right, consider that paraphrased.) So, if it took eons for the first day, it had to take eons for the sixth day, right? Since, surely, God didn't redefine each and every day he explained in Gen. 1. That means there had to be millennium, at the very least, of darkness, if a day is both an eon and divided between light and darkness. And I'm giving an Alaska-in-summer kind of conditions there, since the Earth doesn't usually have a lot more daylight than darkness. It stands to reason you are saying plants were basking in the sunlight nonstop for longer than man has been around (according to evolutionists), and then shriveling in the darkness for as long as man has been around (according to evolutionists again.)
It cannot happen. Plants cannot survive the darkness that long. And it certainly can't happen that mammals could survive without plants.
A. We count too much on herbivores.
B. We get our oxygen from plant respiration.
Again, Gen 1:5 tells what a day was. We can't be saying the definition given is wrong. We cannot expand on that definition without making it into something else. It doesn't work.
The storm raged for 90 days. Noah and family were stuck in the boat for 13 months. So the waters weren't raging nonstop. After death, animals decay. Do bugs bloat and sink or do they just sink? (I have no idea. lol) But cows bloat. Humans bloat. Big animals bloat. And then they sink. Put a bloated hadrosaurus next to a bloated mouse in the water. Which do you think will sink first? I'm going with the mouse, because less gasses to escape and skin and fur is more porous than scales before the sinking. Put a salamander next to a mouse and the salamander sinks first too, because it is an animal that lives in water, so was made to go under. Now all those living creatures were filling the ocean at the same time, along with all the plants, dirt, sand, silt, etc. How does that settle? I've seen a flood. It only lasted three days, but I can tell you I saw dirt stuck to everything. I'm picturing the forest floor and trees though. It wasn't there a week later. It all went back to the ground where it belonged.
Have you not noticed? Most of the fossils found are in dry places that used to be wet places. I lived in the Midwest for a couple of years. The best fossils I ever found. One was a trilobite and one was a tentacle. (To what, I have no idea.) Midwest America isn't known for ocean, but it used to be one.
And you also forget something evolutionary paleontologist keep saying, "The right conditions have to be met for a fossil to form. It is unlikely we will ever find 10% of what was, even if we found ever fossil there is." Just because there were salamanders all along, doesn't mean we'll find evidence of all of them. After all, they aren't made of the right stuff to fossilize often.
Heavens and earth created -- Day 1. What do you mean one was already formed? Even earth was still "without form and void." Which one was already around?
Well, its called "more knowledge". People in the 17th century did not know much.
The Big Bang is one of the most best proved facts in the science, even atheists had to admit it (and they really did not want to, because the Big Bang says the universe had a beginning, i.e. like the Bible says).
"More knowledge" isn't the same thing as "all knowledge." Scientist just 10 years ago treated any form of cancer the same way -- remove quickly. Something new has come along. They stopped automatically removing cancerous goiters because it is often such a slow growing tumor there is no purpose in removing it. And it's encapsulated, so it won't metastasize. They now just keep an eye out for it. Three years ago, when a cyst formed on a kidney, it was time to cut the patient from back to front to remove the cyst in case it was cancer. Now they insert a long needle, get a biopsy, and then freeze the rest to death. When I was a kid, they taught us the earth was millions of years old. Now it is billions and billions. Why in the world would you think scientists have it right, just because they have more knowledge?
And, again, no! Not all scientists believe in the Big Bang, (Hawkings does not), and they still haven't brought it back to the very beginning of the bang. They cannot. Their belief system prevents them. I've only seen one thing remain the same since I was a kid -- God.
So, Gen. 1:5 is a lie? This goes back to then why trust the rest?
You're looping on the Adam question. I already answered that one.
No idea how we can see stars burning out. My guess is because a star burnt out? I also have absolutely no idea if there is a planet somewhere out there with life forms. Absence of knowledge is just that -- absence of knowledge. I'm 60. I've grown accustom to not knowing it all. lol
Why are there impact craters? Wild guess -- meteors? The rest is speculation. And given there is still life on this planet, I'm going with the theory that it wiped out all life is crap.
You know what's amazing though? God created an asteroid belt, a bunch of bigger planets, and even a moon that all act like netting to capture meteors constantly that could well hit Earth. Ever notice all those other objects tend to have a lot more meteor craters than we have? I particularly am impressed with the moon, since it was quite likely if those meteors didn't have that to hit, they had Earth next! And the moon is just the right distance to manage our water. AND we are just the right distance from the sun to have life. Amazing how God set this all up.
And who says I do believe in 6000 years? All I believe is that might be true. It might not be.
Bishops? I haven't read about any bishops' beliefs since I learned the Bishop of Ireland's take on the Trinity. (Bishop of Ireland was St. Patrick.) Why would you assume I believe what I believe because of a bishop? That was bizarre. I kind of keep up with bishops a little less than I keep up with the Kardashians. (I can't even name them. lol)
Truthfully, I prefer spending my time studying about God. Fossils simply fascinate me. I find one trilobite imprint on a stone when I was 14 and I've been hooked on paleontology ever since. (My brother found the tentacle, so I have no idea what he did with it, but I still have my trilobite imprint. lol) But I love that God gave us so much we can check out.
It cannot happen. Plants cannot survive the darkness that long. And it certainly can't happen that mammals could survive without plants.
A. We count too much on herbivores.
B. We get our oxygen from plant respiration.
Again, Gen 1:5 tells what a day was. We can't be saying the definition given is wrong. We cannot expand on that definition without making it into something else. It doesn't work.
The storm raged for 90 days. Noah and family were stuck in the boat for 13 months. So the waters weren't raging nonstop. After death, animals decay. Do bugs bloat and sink or do they just sink? (I have no idea. lol) But cows bloat. Humans bloat. Big animals bloat. And then they sink. Put a bloated hadrosaurus next to a bloated mouse in the water. Which do you think will sink first? I'm going with the mouse, because less gasses to escape and skin and fur is more porous than scales before the sinking. Put a salamander next to a mouse and the salamander sinks first too, because it is an animal that lives in water, so was made to go under. Now all those living creatures were filling the ocean at the same time, along with all the plants, dirt, sand, silt, etc. How does that settle? I've seen a flood. It only lasted three days, but I can tell you I saw dirt stuck to everything. I'm picturing the forest floor and trees though. It wasn't there a week later. It all went back to the ground where it belonged.
Have you not noticed? Most of the fossils found are in dry places that used to be wet places. I lived in the Midwest for a couple of years. The best fossils I ever found. One was a trilobite and one was a tentacle. (To what, I have no idea.) Midwest America isn't known for ocean, but it used to be one.
And you also forget something evolutionary paleontologist keep saying, "The right conditions have to be met for a fossil to form. It is unlikely we will ever find 10% of what was, even if we found ever fossil there is." Just because there were salamanders all along, doesn't mean we'll find evidence of all of them. After all, they aren't made of the right stuff to fossilize often.
Heavens and earth created -- Day 1. What do you mean one was already formed? Even earth was still "without form and void." Which one was already around?
Well, its called "more knowledge". People in the 17th century did not know much. The Big Bang is one of the most best proved facts in the science, even atheists had to admit it (and they really did not want to, because the Big Bang says the universe had a beginning, i.e. like the Bible says).
And, again, no! Not all scientists believe in the Big Bang, (Hawkings does not), and they still haven't brought it back to the very beginning of the bang. They cannot. Their belief system prevents them. I've only seen one thing remain the same since I was a kid -- God.
So, Gen. 1:5 is a lie? This goes back to then why trust the rest?
You're looping on the Adam question. I already answered that one.
No idea how we can see stars burning out. My guess is because a star burnt out? I also have absolutely no idea if there is a planet somewhere out there with life forms. Absence of knowledge is just that -- absence of knowledge. I'm 60. I've grown accustom to not knowing it all. lol
Why are there impact craters? Wild guess -- meteors? The rest is speculation. And given there is still life on this planet, I'm going with the theory that it wiped out all life is crap.
You know what's amazing though? God created an asteroid belt, a bunch of bigger planets, and even a moon that all act like netting to capture meteors constantly that could well hit Earth. Ever notice all those other objects tend to have a lot more meteor craters than we have? I particularly am impressed with the moon, since it was quite likely if those meteors didn't have that to hit, they had Earth next! And the moon is just the right distance to manage our water. AND we are just the right distance from the sun to have life. Amazing how God set this all up.
And who says I do believe in 6000 years? All I believe is that might be true. It might not be.
Bishops? I haven't read about any bishops' beliefs since I learned the Bishop of Ireland's take on the Trinity. (Bishop of Ireland was St. Patrick.) Why would you assume I believe what I believe because of a bishop? That was bizarre. I kind of keep up with bishops a little less than I keep up with the Kardashians. (I can't even name them. lol)
Truthfully, I prefer spending my time studying about God. Fossils simply fascinate me. I find one trilobite imprint on a stone when I was 14 and I've been hooked on paleontology ever since. (My brother found the tentacle, so I have no idea what he did with it, but I still have my trilobite imprint. lol) But I love that God gave us so much we can check out.
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LOL You might want to learn the definition of circular reason, because this is a great example.
We know the scripture is right from "personal revelation" (from God) and from studying it. You haven't even studied it. You haven't even gotten off your butt to see how it was created. This is evidenced by your "personal revelations."
A troll is a troll is a troll is a troll.
We know the scripture is right from "personal revelation" (from God) and from studying it. You haven't even studied it. You haven't even gotten off your butt to see how it was created. This is evidenced by your "personal revelations."
A troll is a troll is a troll is a troll.
i'd like to see the theorem proven that life "had to happen" just because a lot of rocks orbit stars.
i mean, there are 100 trillion atoms in each one of my cells. and how many cells make up my body? surely it "has to happen" that one of them is antimatter by now, right? so why hasn't my body exploded in a matter-antimatter reaction, blowing up a whole city? "surely" . . . ?
((hint: probability doesn't work that way))
i mean, there are 100 trillion atoms in each one of my cells. and how many cells make up my body? surely it "has to happen" that one of them is antimatter by now, right? so why hasn't my body exploded in a matter-antimatter reaction, blowing up a whole city? "surely" . . . ?
((hint: probability doesn't work that way))
Yes sir, here's a good one:
Prophecy -
"Therefore the Lord himself will give you a sign: The virgin will conceive and give birth to a son, and will call him Immanuel."
Prophecy fulfilled -
In the sixth month of Elizabeth’s pregnancy, God sent the angel Gabriel to Nazareth, a town in Galilee, to a virgin pledged to be married to a man named Joseph, a descendant of David. The virgin’s name was Mary.
The angel went to her and said, “Greetings, you who are highly favored! The Lord is with you.”
Mary was greatly troubled at his words and wondered what kind of greeting this might be. But the angel said to her, “Do not be afraid, Mary; you have found favor with God. You will conceive and give birth to a son, and you are to call him Jesus. He will be great and will be called the Son of the Most High. The Lord God will give him the throne of his father David, and he will reign over Jacob’s descendants forever; his kingdom will never end.”
“How will this be,” Mary asked the angel, “since I am a virgin?”
The angel answered, “The Holy Spirit will come on you, and the power of the Most High will overshadow you. So the holy one to be born will be called the Son of God.
Prophecy -
"Therefore the Lord himself will give you a sign: The virgin will conceive and give birth to a son, and will call him Immanuel."
Prophecy fulfilled -
In the sixth month of Elizabeth’s pregnancy, God sent the angel Gabriel to Nazareth, a town in Galilee, to a virgin pledged to be married to a man named Joseph, a descendant of David. The virgin’s name was Mary.
The angel went to her and said, “Greetings, you who are highly favored! The Lord is with you.”
Mary was greatly troubled at his words and wondered what kind of greeting this might be. But the angel said to her, “Do not be afraid, Mary; you have found favor with God. You will conceive and give birth to a son, and you are to call him Jesus. He will be great and will be called the Son of the Most High. The Lord God will give him the throne of his father David, and he will reign over Jacob’s descendants forever; his kingdom will never end.”
“How will this be,” Mary asked the angel, “since I am a virgin?”
The angel answered, “The Holy Spirit will come on you, and the power of the Most High will overshadow you. So the holy one to be born will be called the Son of God.
Good day buddyt,
That saying above was never meant to be used as a plumb line for a day equaling a thousand years and as a means for figuring out prophecy, as some use it for. Peter said this in response to those who would say "Where is the promise of His coming? For from the time that the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of creation.
Peter continues:
"The Lord is not slow in keeping his promise, as some understand slowness. Instead he is patient with you, not wanting anyone to perish, but everyone to come to repentance."
God is not confined to time, as He exists outside of it.
The theme of the resurrection was/is that there was no "body" in the tomb and that because Jesus spirit reentered his body, which was an immortal and glorified body of flesh and bone, also referred to as a spiritual body. The word 'anastasis" translated as "resurrection" is defined as the physical body standing up again.
When the resurrection takes place, Jesus will bring with him all of the spirits of those who have died in him and they will be reunited with their resurrected bodies, which will be immortal and glorified. Those who are in Christ who are still alive when the resurrection takes place will be changed into those immortal and glorified bodies and will be caught up with them to meet the Lord in the air. They will all be in their bodies, but with a heavenly upgrade, also referred to as a spiritual body. The word "spiritual" should not be confused with the word "invisible."
Therefore, since Jesus resurrected in a body of flesh and bone (Lk.24:39), then when he appears, we will also have bodies of flesh and bone, but immortal and glorified with heavenly characteristics.
That saying above was never meant to be used as a plumb line for a day equaling a thousand years and as a means for figuring out prophecy, as some use it for. Peter said this in response to those who would say "Where is the promise of His coming? For from the time that the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of creation.
Peter continues:
"The Lord is not slow in keeping his promise, as some understand slowness. Instead he is patient with you, not wanting anyone to perish, but everyone to come to repentance."
God is not confined to time, as He exists outside of it.
The theme of the resurrection was/is that there was no "body" in the tomb and that because Jesus spirit reentered his body, which was an immortal and glorified body of flesh and bone, also referred to as a spiritual body. The word 'anastasis" translated as "resurrection" is defined as the physical body standing up again.
When the resurrection takes place, Jesus will bring with him all of the spirits of those who have died in him and they will be reunited with their resurrected bodies, which will be immortal and glorified. Those who are in Christ who are still alive when the resurrection takes place will be changed into those immortal and glorified bodies and will be caught up with them to meet the Lord in the air. They will all be in their bodies, but with a heavenly upgrade, also referred to as a spiritual body. The word "spiritual" should not be confused with the word "invisible."
Therefore, since Jesus resurrected in a body of flesh and bone (Lk.24:39), then when he appears, we will also have bodies of flesh and bone, but immortal and glorified with heavenly characteristics.
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I am late, forgive me if this has already been said, To many responses to go gthrough
God made the stars for a purpose. To be a light in the night, and to offer direction..
What good would it do. if God put the stars in the sky, then had to wait billions of years for that light to get here for the job he created the to do.
Look at it this way, If God has the power to make a star out of nothing, He has the power to make its light defy the laws of science and appear on earth the day it was created.
God made the stars for a purpose. To be a light in the night, and to offer direction..
What good would it do. if God put the stars in the sky, then had to wait billions of years for that light to get here for the job he created the to do.
Look at it this way, If God has the power to make a star out of nothing, He has the power to make its light defy the laws of science and appear on earth the day it was created.