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Drugs a big NO NO but Alchohal and tobaco are not as you said mind perverting, I think thats going a bit far. Moderation is key, its not a sin to use tobaco or drink but when it becomes to addictive and begins to affect your life and becomes more important than God then you might need to quit. However its healthier to wean yourself rather quit cold turkey. Just reduce the amount little by little until u dont need it anymore
i find that prohibition to be quite fascinating now that we better understand the complex structure of caffeine and it's many very similar cousins, such as theanine, theophylline, and theobromine, substances found in tea, and chocolate, as well as "mateine" (found in yerba mate and guyusa).
all of these substances have mild to powerful therapeutic effects and are generally considered to be negative when consumed recklessly (i.e. in excess).
while i'm not trying to re-write your SDA guidelines, the ban on such things seems relatively archaic.
how many SDAs really follow these guidelines, curiously?
all of these substances have mild to powerful therapeutic effects and are generally considered to be negative when consumed recklessly (i.e. in excess).
while i'm not trying to re-write your SDA guidelines, the ban on such things seems relatively archaic.
how many SDAs really follow these guidelines, curiously?
I guess my question would be: why use them at all? We all know that for the most part they have detrimental effects to our health, so why even go there. There is no purpose for it. I know red wine is good for the heart, but one could drink grape juice for the same benefits.
Sober living is godly living.
Sober living is godly living.
This is exactly why God tells us not to drink wine in front of a weaker brother if it's going to cause him to stumble. I know some people who were molested and beat by an alcoholic so they feel that drinking alcohol is wrong. To them it is wrong and I have no right to change that in them. And for me to drink in front of them knowing all this I would be sinning the worst of sins. It would be better for me to have a mill stone tied around my neck and be thrown into the sea.
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God does not call drinking wine sinful so I won't either. The danger of calling something sinful, when its not sinful, is that it has the same power to harden the heart towards God and divide families. Real or perceived sin has the same power to harden the heart towards God so let's be careful not to call something sinful when God doesn't.
The interesting thing in your statement is that the verse you quote uses the word, koinos, for defile. This word, koinos, describes something that is unclean because of conscience and not because it was created unclean. If it was created unclean, such as a pig, the word would be, akathartos. We find Peter using both koinos and akathartos in the same sentence.
Acts 10:14 But Peter said, “Not so, Lord! For I have never eaten anything common or unclean.”
Eating with unwashed hands is not sinful to God so it does not make you koinos but eating something that is akathartos is a different story.
2 Corinthians 6:17 Therefore, “Come out from them and be separate, says the Lord. Touch no unclean (akathartos) thing, and I will receive you.”
Unclean in the conscience not because God said it was unclean.
Romans 14:14 I know and am convinced by the Lord Jesus that there is nothing unclean of itself; but to him who considers anything to be unclean (koinos), to him it is unclean (koinos).
Koinos is not a pig.
Acts 10:14 But Peter said, “Not so, Lord! For I have never eaten anything common or unclean.”
Eating with unwashed hands is not sinful to God so it does not make you koinos but eating something that is akathartos is a different story.
2 Corinthians 6:17 Therefore, “Come out from them and be separate, says the Lord. Touch no unclean (akathartos) thing, and I will receive you.”
Unclean in the conscience not because God said it was unclean.
Romans 14:14 I know and am convinced by the Lord Jesus that there is nothing unclean of itself; but to him who considers anything to be unclean (koinos), to him it is unclean (koinos).
Koinos is not a pig.
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