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not at all.
i think it's wrong to demand every gentile be circumcised.
it was not wrong for Timothy to be circumcised, neither for Titus to remain uncircumcised.
not circumcision, not bacon, not matsa, not a kippah or a ballcap, long hair or baldness, not a lute or an electric guitar,
but CHRIST works salvation.
M
Zone, you are saying here that "Jesus Christ abolished the old and brought in the new". How am I lying about you saying what you have just confirmed? I have to leave for a few minutes, so I will come back to this. Why don't you try to be more civil. Do you completely disregard the old testiment? "Come let us reason together sayeth the Lord"
this was written for YOU.
Galatians 5
Freedom in Christ
10I have confidence in you in the Lord that you will adopt no other view; but the one who is disturbing you will bear his judgment, whoever he is. 11But I, brethren, if I still preach circumcision, why am I still persecuted? Then the stumbling block of the cross has been abolished. 12I wish that those who are troubling you would even mutilate themselves.
you want to keep Mosaic Law and toss the Stumbling Block - The Cross.
you'll have your reward.
Galatians 1
No Other Gospel
7which is really not another; only there are some who are disturbing you and want to distort the gospel of Christ. 8But even if we, or an angel from heaven, should preach to you a gospel contrary to what we have preached to you, he is to be accursed! 9As we have said before, so I say again now, if any man is preaching to you a gospel contrary to what you received, he is to be accursed!
repent...perhaps you will be forgiven.
Galatians 5
Freedom in Christ
10I have confidence in you in the Lord that you will adopt no other view; but the one who is disturbing you will bear his judgment, whoever he is. 11But I, brethren, if I still preach circumcision, why am I still persecuted? Then the stumbling block of the cross has been abolished. 12I wish that those who are troubling you would even mutilate themselves.
you want to keep Mosaic Law and toss the Stumbling Block - The Cross.
you'll have your reward.
Galatians 1
No Other Gospel
7which is really not another; only there are some who are disturbing you and want to distort the gospel of Christ. 8But even if we, or an angel from heaven, should preach to you a gospel contrary to what we have preached to you, he is to be accursed! 9As we have said before, so I say again now, if any man is preaching to you a gospel contrary to what you received, he is to be accursed!
repent...perhaps you will be forgiven.
A few questions for brave non Israelites;
LOL....non-Israelites?
that's everyone in the world kid.
There are a few of you that jump in with both feet up to a point, then you dissappear. If you can't go the distance, stay out of the running please.
are you going to disappear?
or are you going go the distance.
get the Constantine stuff.
and tell me who is spoken of here:
Daniel 7:25
and words as an adversary of the Most High it doth speak, and the saints of the Most High it doth wear out, and it hopeth to change seasons and law; and they are given into its hand, till a time, and times, and a division of a time.
Constantine?
a Pope?
who?
who is that?
come on now....let us reason together.....lets
get
your
sources....PLEASE.
LOL....non-Israelites?
that's everyone in the world kid.
There are a few of you that jump in with both feet up to a point, then you dissappear. If you can't go the distance, stay out of the running please.
are you going to disappear?
or are you going go the distance.
get the Constantine stuff.
and tell me who is spoken of here:
Daniel 7:25
and words as an adversary of the Most High it doth speak, and the saints of the Most High it doth wear out, and it hopeth to change seasons and law; and they are given into its hand, till a time, and times, and a division of a time.
Constantine?
a Pope?
who?
who is that?
come on now....let us reason together.....lets
get
your
sources....PLEASE.
M
So Zone, if keeping the laws don't make you righteous, how do you think breaking them does? What did Paul say in Rom.9.32 about the first Israel, "that they sought it not by faith", he didn't fault the law, he faulted their lack of faith. What part of keeping the laws and commandments as an act of faith because you love the children of God and God(1 Jn.5.2-3), do you think indicates that I think keeping them makes me righteous? What part of doing by nature the things contained in the law that show them written my heart, indicates that I have put myself back under the works of the law? If God's spirit in me has written his laws in my heart so that it is my nature to keep them as he did(Matt.5.48, 1 Jn.2.6), then it can only be because I first knew I had no righteousness, and he died for my sins. What part of loveing the law indicates that I rely on the law for my salvation?
Which oh by-the-way, Jesus became the curse of the law in our place, he did not deny the righteousness of the law that says it was "for our good always".
Which oh by-the-way, Jesus became the curse of the law in our place, he did not deny the righteousness of the law that says it was "for our good always".
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M
Why are Constine and the pope in this conversation? I didn't mention them, so why am I to give sorces for their actions? Dan.7.25 according to Dan.8.5-8&21 would be the same Greek influence that Paul preached against in Acts 17.22-23. That hailed out of Egypt, and infested all the following powers. After all, he thinks to change times and laws, that is what happened when the calendar was brought into the faith.
don't be ridiculous.
the law is not of faith.
if you submit to cicumcision you are obligated to keep the whole law.
as for the rest of your stuff...it ain't new.
self-righteous deluded people who think they do better than Jesus DID FOR US - or that God accepts anything other than praise; thanksgiving and an obedient life BECAUSE the man is NEW, well....stay home on saturday or get circumcised.
tell God it took great faith to do it.
so...about that going the distance...i don't have all day.
tomorrow i can try again.
who is Daniel 7:25 referring to?
the law is not of faith.
if you submit to cicumcision you are obligated to keep the whole law.
as for the rest of your stuff...it ain't new.
self-righteous deluded people who think they do better than Jesus DID FOR US - or that God accepts anything other than praise; thanksgiving and an obedient life BECAUSE the man is NEW, well....stay home on saturday or get circumcised.
tell God it took great faith to do it.
so...about that going the distance...i don't have all day.
tomorrow i can try again.
who is Daniel 7:25 referring to?
aaahh.....so the hellenized jews brought in the heresy.
God made a mistake.
listen girl...nobody knows the original calendar....not even da Rabbis.
just as they don't have genetic lines tracing back since they were all destroyed in 70AD.
the hebrew calendar isn't about YOU. you were not an ancient Israelite living an agrarian lifestyle in THE LAND.
it aint about YOU.
like it or not; God rules the WORLD, all kindred tongues and nations.
God made a mistake.
listen girl...nobody knows the original calendar....not even da Rabbis.
just as they don't have genetic lines tracing back since they were all destroyed in 70AD.
the hebrew calendar isn't about YOU. you were not an ancient Israelite living an agrarian lifestyle in THE LAND.
it aint about YOU.
like it or not; God rules the WORLD, all kindred tongues and nations.
N
I will only respond to this part to keep it simple. I don't understand the rest of what your saying .
If your from Ireland and Irish , then you are from those tribes of Israel. You are of that lost house of the tribes of Israel ( lost to most )
They went away from the captivity of the Assyrian over the Caucasus Mountains ; its not far from there, this is all documented Historical fact. ( For anyone that dose not wish to request be ignorant of that history ) I'm not sure which tribe yet.
I do not know much about the Druids : BUT, I would Highly recommend you read this book to catch up on History you might have missed or overlooked.
[size=+1] Celt , Druid & Culdee - I. H. Elder [/size]
I will be buying that book later on in the month .
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ARNOLD MURRAY AND THE SHEPHERD'S CHAPEL
A teacher who has recently become popular over television is a man named Arnold Murray of the Shepherd's Chapel in Gravette, Arkansas. We at the Christian Research Institute do not endorse the teachings of Arnold Murray. This paper will demonstrate why we consider Mr. Murray's teachings to be heretical.
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Anglo-Israel Origin
Mr. Murray teaches Anglo-Israelism which believes that Anglo-Saxons are the chosen race, and America and Great Britain are the lost tribes of the children of Israel. Murray claims that the northern ten tribes of Israel are "the same tribes that later went north and populated Europe and North America". (The Shepherd's Chapel newsletter #148, 2-91) According to the theology of Anglo-Israelism, other races are inferior to whites, and usually the blacks and Jewish race are particularly stigmatized. Murray, on the other hand, says that he respects blacks and other races.
However, he believes these races were the 'Adam' created on the sixth day of creation in Genesis 1, while the Anglo-Saxons were 'another Adam' created on the eighth day of creation based on his interpretation of Genesis 2. Hence, there is a definite distinction between whites and non-whites. Arnold Murray also promotes the literature of other Anglo-Israelism teachers. The Shepherd's Chapel Book List, for instance, offers materials by E. Raymond Capt and J. H. Allen.
The Heresy of Arnold Murray
A teacher who has recently become popular over television is a man named Arnold Murray of the Shepherd's Chapel in Gravette, Arkansas. We at the Christian Research Institute do not endorse the teachings of Arnold Murray. This paper will demonstrate why we consider Mr. Murray's teachings to be heretical.
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Anglo-Israel Origin
Mr. Murray teaches Anglo-Israelism which believes that Anglo-Saxons are the chosen race, and America and Great Britain are the lost tribes of the children of Israel. Murray claims that the northern ten tribes of Israel are "the same tribes that later went north and populated Europe and North America". (The Shepherd's Chapel newsletter #148, 2-91) According to the theology of Anglo-Israelism, other races are inferior to whites, and usually the blacks and Jewish race are particularly stigmatized. Murray, on the other hand, says that he respects blacks and other races.
However, he believes these races were the 'Adam' created on the sixth day of creation in Genesis 1, while the Anglo-Saxons were 'another Adam' created on the eighth day of creation based on his interpretation of Genesis 2. Hence, there is a definite distinction between whites and non-whites. Arnold Murray also promotes the literature of other Anglo-Israelism teachers. The Shepherd's Chapel Book List, for instance, offers materials by E. Raymond Capt and J. H. Allen.
The Heresy of Arnold Murray
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Are you referring to who Dan.7.25 is referring to by name? It would be more than one, as I told you in another post. As far as your sarcastic remark about staying home on Sabbath and being circumcised and telling God it took great faith, 1 Jn.5.3 "and this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments, and his commandment are not grevious". That is what faith accomplishes.