A Scriptural Conclusion

[Zmouth]

But I think you would be furious if you hired someone to paint your house cream, and you came back and found a deep blue house. I would be furious, and I wouldn't recommend him to anyone.

Heck, I would be happy whatever color he painted it if he could only find it. Seems a couple of years back the land, my home and everything attached thereto just vanished, puff, gone as in doesn't exist anymore. Big deal if the title insurer reimbursed my loss with the face value of the title policy, that doesn't include all the work and equity I built up in the property.

But what does house painting have to anything to do with your post, seems the king would got the painting done long before the wedding...

 

[Zmouth]

The Mormons have already identified the planet their god lives on, and have given it a name.

Really? I did not know that. I ain't much into that commune lifestyle myself.

 

[Zmouth]

What is Hell, and Who created it?

What is Hell: A world of and lies

Who created it: Liars

Scripture: Ps 139:8 If I ascend up into heaven, thou art there: if I make my bed in hell, behold, thou art there. (Duet 4:39)

 

[Brainfreeze]

What is Hell: A world of and lies

Who created it: Liars

Scripture: Ps 139:8 If I ascend up into heaven, thou art there: if I make my bed in hell, behold, thou art there. (Duet 4:39)

Pretty good sir, what I figured, (people could make there own bed there) ..nice scripture, ty

 

[Brainfreeze]

But who holds the keys to such a place?
Rev 1
18I am he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death.

 

[Zmouth]

Pretty good sir, what I figured, (people could make there own bed there) ..nice scripture, ty

While none can't ascend into heaven without Him, but just because one has to endure hell doesn't mean it was there own making, in actuality either way with the LORD it is really just another day in paradise.

 

[Zmouth]

But who holds the keys to such a place?
Rev 1
18I am he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death.

Well, if you die you are dead and if you are dead you no longer exist, but just because the flesh of the caterpillar morphs into a butterfly, the substance of life doesn't perish in the creeping thing, it merely transcended from one physical body into a flying creeping thing.

Then again I bet he doesn't realize it a combination lock?

 

[Brainfreeze]

Well, if you die you are dead and if you are dead you no longer exist, but just because the flesh of the caterpillar morphs into a butterfly, the substance of life doesn't perish in the creeping thing, it merely transcended from one physical body into a flying creeping thing.

Then again I bet he doesn't realize it a combination lock?

Always thought of a caterpillar as a flesh thing to a changed flesh thing, never from a flesh thing to a spiritual one, that's a different perspective. As for the combination lock, it might just well be until (time) is up.

rev 11

15And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever.

 

[Zmouth]

Always thought of a caterpillar as a flesh thing to a changed flesh thing, never from a flesh thing to a spiritual one, that's a different perspective. As for the combination lock, it might just well be until (time) is up.

While classified as an insect, it is referenced in Genesis 1:25 as a creeping thing; "And God made the beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind: and God saw that it was good."

The metamorphosis of the caterpillar into a butterfly is not a spiritual one, even thought it is a refreshing to the soul to observe.
So I am sorry if I gave you that impression, since it is chemically based process.

However, there is a reason that the kinds are distinguished separately. Take for example that but even within each of the kinds there are even more sub-divisions such as the insects which will all have six legs. Yet not all the creepeth kind are insects.

That is rewarding thing about true principles of the Divine, the carnal minded will throw every lie they can fabricate, in any form they can imagine and they won't bend and they won't brake.












But anyway this is off topic

 

[theStudent]

What is hell?
http://christianchat.com/bible-discussion-forum/135663-scriptures-hell-d2.html

 

[DP]

- or if you will, A Scriptural Challenge.
That what I want to put forth.


Often people visit these Bible Study; Bible Discussion; Bible Board... etc., forums and leave disappointed.
Why? Because, a question seldom ends with a Bible conclusion.
They continue, and continue, with many conclusions that do not mention one scipture. And if a scripture is mentioned, it's sometimes followed by more than 50 words - half of which do not even refer to the scripture given.
Then a person has to dig through a multitude of post only to realize they can't find the topic that was started.

Are we really interested in the word of God, or how long we can debate?
People visit these forums everyday, looking for answers..., and go away with nothing.
Do we realize how many lost souls come looking to you guys for help?
I was on a thread where someone was asking for scripture to back up statements, and you know, that was warming to my heart.
Sometimes, though, sad to say, a person demands a scripture, and when given, they ignore it.
How pleasant it would be to a tired soul, if the Bible spoke more than we did.
I'm sure at the end of the day, more people would go away satisfied - either because they learned something, got something cleared up, taught someone something, or just basically comforted or reasusred someone.
Or are we like those priest that starved the people?


I want to put this challenge out to all who are so into Christ. (He said feed his little sheep.)
I have a number of questions.
Can you use the Bible to answer, and give a brief explanation for using that scripture?
Can you if challenging that explanation, use a scripture, along with a brief explanation, without being un-Christ-like?
Can you if challenged, use a scripture, along with a brief explanation, without being un-Christ-like?


Here is my first question:


What is Hell, and Who created it?

God, of course, created the heavenly abode of separation for Satan, his angels, and the wicked, which the KJV calls "hell" and is actually the Greek word haides.

Now then, who set you... up here to determine what the RULES are on this forum? Those running this forum already have their RULES established. You might have a little respect for them instead of mocking how they're running things here by your public outcry.

 

[NayborBear]

(Snipped from #58 - the student) "Hebrews 5:
11 Of whom we have many things to say, and hard to be uttered, seeing ye are dull of hearing.
12 For when for the time ye ought to be teachers, ye have need that one teach you again which be the first principles of the oracles of God; and are become such as have need of milk, and not of strong meat.
13 For every one that useth milk is unskilful in the word of righteousness: for he is a babe.
14 But strong meat belongeth to them that are of full age, even those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil."

This that you quoted, is "a" reason why you find some posters using "lengthy explanations". In these "attempts/strivances" of illustrating spiritual truths. The truths themselves, are not the issue, these don't change. Where the "hang ups" occur, is 2,000 years of culture/language change. Now, blend this in with individual interpretations, like, tis the same spiritual truth "revealed" (if you will), to 50 people, and, on this site, for the larger part, you'll get 50 different explanations! Each one of them different! Yet, each one of them, for the most part (again, ), an honest assessment of that which happened to them! To the casual, immature, young (believer), This could, and more times then not, cause more confusion, then it clears up. Certainly not "my" intent, anyways. And?, sometimes, feelings/emotions get hurt, or, a sense of being "left behind", or a "why you, and, not me?"

My intent, as futile as it is, is using the parables of Jesus, in illustrations, which are actually spiritual truths, into traversing 2,000 years of this culture/language barrier/s. Same as I try with things that are stated in the Old Testament (closer to 8,000 years......and longer, in some instances). And, some in here, who come here regular, who have also gone through, and are going through, this being "born from above" process/es, realize that, although, some explanations/illustrations of this, vary a little from individual to individual; the "process" itself is recognizable.

As to the answer I get when I ask God: "Why ME, And not these others?"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i4njPe2_rho

 

[theStudent]

who set you... up here to determine what the RULES are on this forum?

I was not going to reply to this post.
But sometimes when someone asks a question, it is either they want to know, because they don't know.
Or they think they know, and want to ridicule or argue.

On the principle of love I am going to believe it's the former.
And I'm not going to argue, so this is all I will say, unless there is something you want to know.

Everyone here on these forums, has an opinion, which they want to express, and do so freely.
The rules of the board does not prevent anyone from expressing their opinion.

Everyone starts a thread and makes a post.
The board does not stipulate that you start the post by wording it this way or that, or by using only particular words that suit others, and that you think they want to hear.

From this I have broken none of these rules.
However, if you were offended by my post, it was not my intent to do so.

I might add though, that what the board rules against, is going to a post to harass a user.
May you have peace, my brother.