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Isaiah 11
“And in that day there shall be a root of Jesse, which shall stand for an ensign of the people; to it shall the Gentiles seek: and his rest shall be glorious. And it shall come to pass in that day, that the Lord shall set his hand again the second time to recover the remnant of his people, which shall be left from Assyria, and from Egypt, and from Pathros, and from Cush, and from Elam, and from Shinar, and from Hamath, and from the islands of the sea.”
Are the above regions renamed and reorganized to be modern nations?
Israel and Judah were scattered in and by Assyria, and Egypt, and Pathros, and Cush, and Elam, and Shinar, and Hamath, and the islands of the sea.
They were gathered a first time in that return from captivity (Ezra and Nehemiah).
He would then gather them a second time - to Christ - the ensign. The gentiles gathered to the ensign, as well.
When? 2015? 2050?
"And in that day there shall be a root of Jesse". Oh. At the Incarnation.
Hosea 1
"Now when she had weaned Loruhamah, she conceived, and bare a son. Then said God, Call his name Loammi: for ye are not my people, and I will not be your God. Yet the number of the children of Israel shall be as the sand of the sea, which cannot be measured nor numbered; and it shall come to pass, that in the place where it was said unto them, ye are not my people, there it shall be said unto them, Ye are the sons of the living God. Then shall the children of Judah and the children of Israel be gathered together, and appoint themselves one head, and they shall come up out of the land: for great shall be the day of Jezreel."
Romans 9:25
As he saith also in Osee, I will call them my people, which were not my people; and her beloved, which was not beloved.
So was Hosea looking for a political restoration for Israel and Judah?
Or a spiritual one (reconciled through Christ)? What does it mean appoint themselves one head?
Was Hosea talking only about physical Israel (faithful or not) - or was that also about the Gentiles being grafted over (Palestinians excluded probably)? If Hosea says the Gentiles were being grafted over, it was a spiritual restoration. The only kind there is.
But maybe this hasn't happened yet either.
Luke 1
“He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the Highest: and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of his father David: and he shall reign over the house of Jacob for ever; and of his kingdom there shall be no end.”
Oh...Yes, it has happened.
Acts 2
“This Jesus hath God raised up, whereof we are all witnesses. Therefore being by the right hand of God exalted, and having received of the Father the promise of the Holy Ghost, he hath shed forth this, which ye now see and hear. For David is not ascended into the heavens: but he saith himself, The Lord said unto my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand, until I make thy foes thy footstool. Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made that same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ.”
And what about Amos and when the Lord set his hand again the second time to recover the remnant of his people
Amos 9
"In that day will I raise up the tabernacle of David that is fallen, and close up the breaches thereof; and I will raise up his ruins, and I will build it as in the days of old: that they may possess the remnant of Edom, and of all the heathen, which are called by my name, saith the Lord that doeth this…and I will bring again the captivity of my people of Israel, and they shall build the waste cities, and inhabit them; and they shall plant vineyards, and drink the wine thereof; they shall also make gardens, and eat the fruit of them. And I will plant them upon their land, and they shall no more be pulled up out of their land which I have given them, saith the Lord thy God.”
When was the Davidic throne (Israels symbol of restoration and kingdom) restored and occupied. And by Whom.
Amos says when the heathen would be called by God`s Name.
That`s all in the Book of Acts. But what about the ones who refused what was offered...
Acts 3
“And it shall come to pass, that every soul, which will not hear that prophet, shall be destroyed from among the people.”
Even Malachi describes the never-ending apostasy and wavering of the people. Until John appeared to announce: "And in that day there shall be a root of Jesse". Announcing the Kingdom had come.
What - Jesus is spiritualizing Elijah: And if ye will receive it, this is Elias, which was for to come.
Do we have rivers of living water flowing out of our hearts as a result of faith in Christ. Or is that poetic and symbolic language.
One would need to work very hard at sectioning this off into maybe fulfilled and future to us.
Mind you, the Israelis are building cities ontop of cities they wasted. They are stealing vineyards, though true, they have learned to plant their own. On other peoples land. Making gardens and eating the fruit of them - with military protection
of course (F16s; white phosphorus, etc given for that purpose - protection of the stolen goods - by that bastion of Democracy, Freedom and Human Rights, America).
Amos 9
"In that day will I raise up the tabernacle of David that is fallen, and close up the breaches thereof; and I will raise up his ruins, and I will build it as in the days of old: that they may possess the remnant of Edom, and of all the heathen, which are called by my name, saith the Lord that doeth this…and I will bring again the captivity of my people of Israel, and they shall build the waste cities, and inhabit them; and they shall plant vineyards, and drink the wine thereof; they shall also make gardens, and eat the fruit of them. And I will plant them upon their land, and they shall no more be pulled up out of their land which I have given them, saith the Lord thy God.”
As for those Replacement Folks, well, somebody better go back in time and tell all those Jews and Gentiles the Ensign wasnt the Lord, and Christ wasnt GOD setting his hand again the second time to recover the remnant of his people.
Romans 11
So too at the present time there is a remnant, chosen by grace.
“And in that day there shall be a root of Jesse, which shall stand for an ensign of the people; to it shall the Gentiles seek: and his rest shall be glorious. And it shall come to pass in that day, that the Lord shall set his hand again the second time to recover the remnant of his people, which shall be left from Assyria, and from Egypt, and from Pathros, and from Cush, and from Elam, and from Shinar, and from Hamath, and from the islands of the sea.”
Are the above regions renamed and reorganized to be modern nations?
Israel and Judah were scattered in and by Assyria, and Egypt, and Pathros, and Cush, and Elam, and Shinar, and Hamath, and the islands of the sea.
They were gathered a first time in that return from captivity (Ezra and Nehemiah).
He would then gather them a second time - to Christ - the ensign. The gentiles gathered to the ensign, as well.
When? 2015? 2050?
"And in that day there shall be a root of Jesse". Oh. At the Incarnation.
Hosea 1
"Now when she had weaned Loruhamah, she conceived, and bare a son. Then said God, Call his name Loammi: for ye are not my people, and I will not be your God. Yet the number of the children of Israel shall be as the sand of the sea, which cannot be measured nor numbered; and it shall come to pass, that in the place where it was said unto them, ye are not my people, there it shall be said unto them, Ye are the sons of the living God. Then shall the children of Judah and the children of Israel be gathered together, and appoint themselves one head, and they shall come up out of the land: for great shall be the day of Jezreel."
Romans 9:25
As he saith also in Osee, I will call them my people, which were not my people; and her beloved, which was not beloved.
So was Hosea looking for a political restoration for Israel and Judah?
Or a spiritual one (reconciled through Christ)? What does it mean appoint themselves one head?
Was Hosea talking only about physical Israel (faithful or not) - or was that also about the Gentiles being grafted over (Palestinians excluded probably)? If Hosea says the Gentiles were being grafted over, it was a spiritual restoration. The only kind there is.
But maybe this hasn't happened yet either.
Luke 1
“He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the Highest: and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of his father David: and he shall reign over the house of Jacob for ever; and of his kingdom there shall be no end.”
Oh...Yes, it has happened.
Acts 2
“This Jesus hath God raised up, whereof we are all witnesses. Therefore being by the right hand of God exalted, and having received of the Father the promise of the Holy Ghost, he hath shed forth this, which ye now see and hear. For David is not ascended into the heavens: but he saith himself, The Lord said unto my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand, until I make thy foes thy footstool. Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made that same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ.”
And what about Amos and when the Lord set his hand again the second time to recover the remnant of his people
Amos 9
"In that day will I raise up the tabernacle of David that is fallen, and close up the breaches thereof; and I will raise up his ruins, and I will build it as in the days of old: that they may possess the remnant of Edom, and of all the heathen, which are called by my name, saith the Lord that doeth this…and I will bring again the captivity of my people of Israel, and they shall build the waste cities, and inhabit them; and they shall plant vineyards, and drink the wine thereof; they shall also make gardens, and eat the fruit of them. And I will plant them upon their land, and they shall no more be pulled up out of their land which I have given them, saith the Lord thy God.”
When was the Davidic throne (Israels symbol of restoration and kingdom) restored and occupied. And by Whom.
Amos says when the heathen would be called by God`s Name.
That`s all in the Book of Acts. But what about the ones who refused what was offered...
Acts 3
“And it shall come to pass, that every soul, which will not hear that prophet, shall be destroyed from among the people.”
Even Malachi describes the never-ending apostasy and wavering of the people. Until John appeared to announce: "And in that day there shall be a root of Jesse". Announcing the Kingdom had come.
What - Jesus is spiritualizing Elijah: And if ye will receive it, this is Elias, which was for to come.
Do we have rivers of living water flowing out of our hearts as a result of faith in Christ. Or is that poetic and symbolic language.
One would need to work very hard at sectioning this off into maybe fulfilled and future to us.
Mind you, the Israelis are building cities ontop of cities they wasted. They are stealing vineyards, though true, they have learned to plant their own. On other peoples land. Making gardens and eating the fruit of them - with military protection
of course (F16s; white phosphorus, etc given for that purpose - protection of the stolen goods - by that bastion of Democracy, Freedom and Human Rights, America).
Amos 9
"In that day will I raise up the tabernacle of David that is fallen, and close up the breaches thereof; and I will raise up his ruins, and I will build it as in the days of old: that they may possess the remnant of Edom, and of all the heathen, which are called by my name, saith the Lord that doeth this…and I will bring again the captivity of my people of Israel, and they shall build the waste cities, and inhabit them; and they shall plant vineyards, and drink the wine thereof; they shall also make gardens, and eat the fruit of them. And I will plant them upon their land, and they shall no more be pulled up out of their land which I have given them, saith the Lord thy God.”
As for those Replacement Folks, well, somebody better go back in time and tell all those Jews and Gentiles the Ensign wasnt the Lord, and Christ wasnt GOD setting his hand again the second time to recover the remnant of his people.
Romans 11
So too at the present time there is a remnant, chosen by grace.
That "world leader" you are looking for is the almighty dollar. And again Israel represents those in religion seeking after God according to the flesh.
Now lets take homosexuality for a good example. According to physical Israel and the law, they are cut off. In this act however they are blameless by the righteousness of the law. But the gospel is the good news that all will be saved, not according to the law, but of the Spirit. In such case, those that adhere to this are persecuted by Israel.
Now lets take homosexuality for a good example. According to physical Israel and the law, they are cut off. In this act however they are blameless by the righteousness of the law. But the gospel is the good news that all will be saved, not according to the law, but of the Spirit. In such case, those that adhere to this are persecuted by Israel.
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lol.. Well thank the good lord we have scripture.
1. he promises them he would give them the land
2. he told them he would remove them (northern kingdom by Syria, southern by Babylon
3. He told them he would temporarily restor them, But they would still be slaves (and not have the promise he gave them) because they were still in sin (fulfilled)
4. He told them, because they had rejected their messiah, and continued in sin, he would completely disperse them, and destroy their cities and make them desolate (fulfilled 70 AD
5. He told them one day (when the times of the gentiles have been fulfilled) he would remove their blindness. They would repent, He would restor them to their land, take them from all the nations where he has scattered them, And the prophesies shown here in amos and other prophesies of them being restored would occure, He would be their God. and again, remember the promise he made to their fathers. (yet to be fulfilled.
Israel is still blind, they have not repented. so not. they are not returned. It does not mean some have not come back. Who who cares if we can prove they are israel or not. Do we trust God that he will keep his promise? Or do we make Gods promise null and void?
Now if true Israel is all of mankind, then what is the true Gentile but the idols of men's hands that will be utterly destroyed.
Micah 1:5-7
[SUP]5 [/SUP]For the transgression of Jacob is all this, and for the sins of the house of Israel. What is the transgression of Jacob? is it not Samaria? and what are the high places of Judah? are they not Jerusalem?
[SUP]6 [/SUP]Therefore I will make Samaria as an heap of the field, and as plantings of a vineyard: and I will pour down the stones thereof into the valley, and I will discover the foundations thereof.
[SUP]7[/SUP]And all the graven images thereof shall be beaten to pieces, and all the hires thereof shall be burned with the fire, and all the idols thereof will I lay desolate: for she gathered it of the hire of an harlot, and they shall return to the hire of an harlot.
Micah 1:5-7
[SUP]5 [/SUP]For the transgression of Jacob is all this, and for the sins of the house of Israel. What is the transgression of Jacob? is it not Samaria? and what are the high places of Judah? are they not Jerusalem?
[SUP]6 [/SUP]Therefore I will make Samaria as an heap of the field, and as plantings of a vineyard: and I will pour down the stones thereof into the valley, and I will discover the foundations thereof.
[SUP]7[/SUP]And all the graven images thereof shall be beaten to pieces, and all the hires thereof shall be burned with the fire, and all the idols thereof will I lay desolate: for she gathered it of the hire of an harlot, and they shall return to the hire of an harlot.
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so what your saying is this covenant is no longer valid?
Gen 15: [SUP]7 [/SUP]And it came to pass, when the sun went down and it was dark, that behold, there appeared a smoking oven and a burning torch that passed between those pieces. [SUP]18 [/SUP]On the same day the Lord made a covenant with Abram, saying:“To your descendants I have given this land, from the river of Egypt to the great river, the River Euphrates— [SUP]19 [/SUP]the Kenites, the Kenezzites, the Kadmonites, [SUP]20 [/SUP]the Hittites, the Perizzites, the Rephaim, [SUP]21 [/SUP]the Amorites, the Canaanites, the Girgashites, and the Jebusites.”
Gen 17: [SUP]4 [/SUP]“As for Me, behold, My covenant is with you, and you shall be a father of many nations. [SUP]5 [/SUP]No longer shall your name be called Abram, but your name shall be Abraham; for I have made you a father of many nations. [SUP]6 [/SUP]I will make you exceedingly fruitful; and I will make nations of you, and kings shall come from you. [SUP]7 [/SUP]And I will establish My covenant between Me and you and your descendants after you in their generations, for an everlasting covenant, to be God to you and your descendants after you. [SUP]8 [/SUP]Also I give to you and your descendants after you the land in which you are a stranger, all the land of Canaan, as an everlasting possession; and I will be their God.”
God just said he no longer will fulfil this covenant, even though he called it an ETERNAL covenant, to all the people through him, in ALL their generations?
He also reconfirmed this covenant between Isaac and Jacob. But it means nothing?
Gen 15: [SUP]7 [/SUP]And it came to pass, when the sun went down and it was dark, that behold, there appeared a smoking oven and a burning torch that passed between those pieces. [SUP]18 [/SUP]On the same day the Lord made a covenant with Abram, saying:“To your descendants I have given this land, from the river of Egypt to the great river, the River Euphrates— [SUP]19 [/SUP]the Kenites, the Kenezzites, the Kadmonites, [SUP]20 [/SUP]the Hittites, the Perizzites, the Rephaim, [SUP]21 [/SUP]the Amorites, the Canaanites, the Girgashites, and the Jebusites.”
Gen 17: [SUP]4 [/SUP]“As for Me, behold, My covenant is with you, and you shall be a father of many nations. [SUP]5 [/SUP]No longer shall your name be called Abram, but your name shall be Abraham; for I have made you a father of many nations. [SUP]6 [/SUP]I will make you exceedingly fruitful; and I will make nations of you, and kings shall come from you. [SUP]7 [/SUP]And I will establish My covenant between Me and you and your descendants after you in their generations, for an everlasting covenant, to be God to you and your descendants after you. [SUP]8 [/SUP]Also I give to you and your descendants after you the land in which you are a stranger, all the land of Canaan, as an everlasting possession; and I will be their God.”
God just said he no longer will fulfil this covenant, even though he called it an ETERNAL covenant, to all the people through him, in ALL their generations?
He also reconfirmed this covenant between Isaac and Jacob. But it means nothing?