Are Seventh Day Adventist the "Remnent Church"

[Brandon911]

It is helpful to read both sides...Hidden Heresies of Seventh-Day Adventists

This is a dumb website to send people to..It is run by fundamental Baptist who think that everyone but themselves are a cult and going to hell

 

[LEPIDUS]

I have only been to one SDA service. I enjoyed most of it, however it got rather political more than a few times.
I doubt that all SDA services resemble that one.

I disagree with their teachings on prophecy and on our goals as Christians,
however I don't disagree with everything they say, and even find some of it refreshing.
Most of my contact with SDA doctrine is in reading books and on forums.

I can't say I disagree with their teachings on prophecy being that I am barely learning about them, and as far as the goals well honestly I don't believe they are keeping the commandments as means for salvation, but rather out of respect to God.

Be sure to test everything against the Word, and not let the Word be subject to private interpretation.

I have and will continue to do so, thank you.

 

[Last]

As a SDA sometimes I get fed up with being called a cult or not Christian. I also know that the Bible teaches that the "remnant church" will be persecuted in the last days. I am also amazed on how many people criticize our teachings without knowing what they actually are. I suggest that those critical of the SDA go to the website www.Amazingfacts.org and learn what our teachings really are and where it is taught in the Bible.

It is a cult. It was created by people that thought the world was going to end and failed to predict it twice.

So they began obsessing about worshiping on Sunday and had a woman prophet. That's a cult dude.

 

[Last]

It is helpful to read both sides...Hidden Heresies of Seventh-Day Adventists

if you take that website seriously, you need to get your head examined or avoid society altogether.

 

[JesusLives]

How does one attain heaven or eternal life in the SDA?

For the cause of Christ
Roger

The same way you do - through the blood of Jesus and God's grace and the indwelling of the Holy Spirit.

 

[JackH]

It is a cult. It was created by people that thought the world was going to end and failed to predict it twice.

So they began obsessing about worshiping on Sunday and had a woman prophet. That's a cult dude.

Exactly.

One of the favorite links for our friends over on that other thread to drop is to a Seventh-day Adventist's writings.

I doubt they even know what else the guy believed.

 

[JesusLives]

What do you disagree with? I've been to a couple of services and I can't say I disagree. I don't know, maybe I'm still learning about them. :/

I think the majority of the differences are -

The state of the dead - most others believe immediately going to hell or heaven or purgatory at death. SDA believes the breath goes back to God who gave it at death. The body waits in the grave unaware of anything until resurrection.

Hell - most others believe burning forever - eternity. SDA believes that there is hell fire and brimstone but when the wicked are burned up the fire goes out they will be nonexistent throughout eternity.

Days of worship - most others observe Sunday - SDA believes Saturday Sabbath.

Thinking SDA is a cult - SDA is not a cult.

I am an SDA and while I believe Ellen White writings can be helpful I do not take her writings as final authority. I always go to the Bible as the greatest authority as it is inspired by God.

I also believe there will be people from many different denominations in heaven as salvation is an individual thing not a denominational thing.

We are saved by the blood of Jesus and the grace of God and daily I ask for the indwelling of the Holy Spirit.

 

[RachelBibleStudent]

This is a dumb website to send people to..It is run by fundamental Baptist who think that everyone but themselves are a cult and going to hell

so basically the same thing a lot of seventh day adventists believe...

 

[JackH]

I am an SDA and while I believe Ellen White writings can be helpful

Ellen White on female masturbation in her book A Solemn Appeal:

"Females possess less vital force than the other sex, and are deprived very much of the bracing, invigorating air, by their in-door life. The result of self-abuse in them is seen in various diseases, such as catarrh, dropsy, headache, loss of memory and sight, great weakness in the back and loins, affections of the spine, and frequently, inward decay of the head. Cancerous humor, which would lie dormant in the system their lifetime, is inflamed, and commences its eating, destructive work. The mind is often utterly ruined, and insanity supervenes."

I can see how this particular writing could be helpful.

 

[tourist]

The same way you do - through the blood of Jesus and God's grace and the indwelling of the Holy Spirit.

Perhaps Roger has an attitude problem. What an asinine question.

 

[tourist]

Ellen White on female masturbation in her book A Solemn Appeal:

"Females possess less vital force than the other sex, and are deprived very much of the bracing, invigorating air, by their in-door life. The result of self-abuse in them is seen in various diseases, such as catarrh, dropsy, headache, loss of memory and sight, great weakness in the back and loins, affections of the spine, and frequently, inward decay of the head. Cancerous humor, which would lie dormant in the system their lifetime, is inflamed, and commences its eating, destructive work. The mind is often utterly ruined, and insanity supervenes."

I can see how this particular writing could be helpful.

Lighten up Jack.

 

[tourist]

It is a cult. It was created by people that thought the world was going to end and failed to predict it twice.

So they began obsessing about worshiping on Sunday and had a woman prophet. That's a cult dude.

Perhaps all religions are cults. So where does that leave us?

 

[posthuman]

i doubt very much that the "remnant" talked about in scripture is any particular denomination.

 

[JackH]

Lighten up Jack.

I hope your spouse doesn't read Ellen G. White. She warns against excessive marital relations. Once a month is good.

I like this on page 178 of her book I mentioned:

"Let the Christian wife refrain, both in word and act, from exciting the animal passion of her husband."

That would be a good line for a Viagra commercial.

 

[LEPIDUS]

Ellen White on female masturbation in her book A Solemn Appeal:

"Females possess less vital force than the other sex, and are deprived very much of the bracing, invigorating air, by their in-door life. The result of self-abuse in them is seen in various diseases, such as catarrh, dropsy, headache, loss of memory and sight, great weakness in the back and loins, affections of the spine, and frequently, inward decay of the head. Cancerous humor, which would lie dormant in the system their lifetime, is inflamed, and commences its eating, destructive work. The mind is often utterly ruined, and insanity supervenes."

I can see how this particular writing could be helpful.

I apologize if my interpretation of what you are trying to convey is wrong, but I find this post disrespectful. If you want to belittle someones reading selection in public that is fine but to publicly assume the selection especially on the nature of the post you stated is completely wrong.

Someone of your "age" should have more respect, and tact when communicating to a sister in Christ. Additionally, why don't you try asking which selections she finds helpful rather than assume such vulgarity as your last statement implies.

 

[JackH]

I apologize if my interpretation of what you are trying to convey is wrong, but I find this post disrespectful. If you want to belittle someones reading selection in public that is fine but to publicly assume the selection especially on the nature of the post you stated is completely wrong.

Someone of your "age" should have more respect, and tact when communicating to a sister in Christ. Additionally, why don't you try asking which selections she finds helpful rather than assume such vulgarity as your last statement implies.

I would have thought that someone would have objected more to what Ellen G. White said than what I said.

Ellen G. White is the face of the SDA movement. Some, including me, have said SDA is a cult.

It would seem to me that the credibility of Ellen G. White, deemed a prophetess of the movement, might be an important factor to evaluate, especially for those who belong or are considering joining.

 

[LEPIDUS]

I would have thought that someone would have objected more to what Ellen G. White said than what I said.

Ellen G. White is the face of the SDA movement. Some, including me, have said SDA is a cult.

It would seem to me that the credibility of Ellen G. White, deemed a prophetess of the movement, might be an important factor to evaluate, especially for those who belong or are considering joining.

I have read some of her writings and honestly don't find anything contradictory to The Bible.

And I was not opposing your right to belittle the reading selection but more how you went about doing it. By your statement you didn't question Ellen G Whites credibility, but the posters character, and honestly that was disrespectful.

 

[tourist]

I hope your spouse doesn't read Ellen G. White. She warns against excessive marital relations. Once a month is good.

I like this on page 178 of her book I mentioned:

"Let the Christian wife refrain, both in word and act, from exciting the animal passion of her husband."

That would be a good line for a Viagra commercial.

My spouse died this year. I do not know this woman but my understanding is that the bible is the primary source of inspiration, wisdom and guidance for SDA just as in any bible believing denomination and repenting and forgiveness of sins through Jesus , and acceptance of Him in the heart is the only way of salvation. You wrote an amusing post but I find it hard to believe that a husband and a wife who were SDA would strictly adhere to the guidelines of proper bedroom etiquette in the pages of that book. I know that I wouldn't.

 

[JackH]

I have read some of her writings and honestly don't find anything contradictory to The Bible.

And I was not opposing your right to belittle the reading selection but more how you went about doing it. By your statement you didn't question Ellen G Whites credibility, but the posters character, and honestly that was disrespectful.

What Ellen G. White herself said raised issues about her credibility, in my opinion.

Do you agree with what she said in what I quoted?

 

[LEPIDUS]

What Ellen G. White herself said raised issues about her credibility, in my opinion.

Again, from what I have read, I have not come across anything contradictory to The Bible.

Do you agree with what she said in what I quoted?

Now you are trying to question my character.

Ellen White on female masturbation in her book A Solemn Appeal:

"Females possess less vital force than the other sex, and are deprived very much of the bracing, invigorating air, by their in-door life. The result of self-abuse in them is seen in various diseases, such as catarrh, dropsy, headache, loss of memory and sight, great weakness in the back and loins, affections of the spine, and frequently, inward decay of the head. Cancerous humor, which would lie dormant in the system their lifetime, is inflamed, and commences its eating, destructive work. The mind is often utterly ruined, and insanity supervenes."

I can see how this particular writing could be helpful.

By your statement you are not questioning Ellen G. White's credibility, whether, or not her own writing does. By that statement you questioned the posters character because by the selection you quoted you implied the posters personal behavior. Which again is disrespectful.

And quite frankly, I don't want to pursue this topic any more being that it will not defuse my initial concern.