Are We Too Far Gone?
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What if there are 10 righteous in Sodom? Will God still destroy it?
As Goes the believer............so goes the nation.
31And he said, “Now behold, I have ventured to speak to the Lord; suppose twenty are found there?” And He said, “I will not destroy it on account of the twenty.” 32Then he said, “Oh may the Lord not be angry, and I shall speak only this once; suppose ten are found there?” And He said, “I will not destroy it on account of the ten.”
As Goes the believer............so goes the nation.
31And he said, “Now behold, I have ventured to speak to the Lord; suppose twenty are found there?” And He said, “I will not destroy it on account of the twenty.” 32Then he said, “Oh may the Lord not be angry, and I shall speak only this once; suppose ten are found there?” And He said, “I will not destroy it on account of the ten.”
It's over.
Like ancient Israel, we may have a relatively short period of turning back the to God, but I don't even see that happening. Even if it did, the trend is all downhill. It is in the bible. These things were predicted, and at best, maybe for our sake, and our children's sake, and our grand children, we can stall it through prayer, and supplication, and getting off our butts and doing what God has commanded each of us. But that is all we can do, is forestall.
We are coming close to the end, close to the times of the Anti-Christ.
It is going to get worse. Already now, we look back at the nineties, and say compared to today, they didn't seem all that bad. But coming from the sixties, and seventies, and early eighties, the late eighties and nineties looked like a horror show to many Christians.
Crack, rampant crime in the cities, AIDS, sexual promiscuity that seemed to make the '60's look tame; materialism, legalism, cultural wars (which by the way, Christians just resigned themselves to as a lost battle), the advancement of the sexually immoral behaviors out in the open, the beginning of the open brainwashing of our children in the schools, the open ridicule of men in society, on TV and in the movies, personal vanity as evidenced by the skyrocketing plastic surgeries that decade, and so on.
That is just off the top of my head. And now, I look back, and say to myself, wow, they do not seem so bad as compared to now.
"As in the days of Noah..."
Like ancient Israel, we may have a relatively short period of turning back the to God, but I don't even see that happening. Even if it did, the trend is all downhill. It is in the bible. These things were predicted, and at best, maybe for our sake, and our children's sake, and our grand children, we can stall it through prayer, and supplication, and getting off our butts and doing what God has commanded each of us. But that is all we can do, is forestall.
We are coming close to the end, close to the times of the Anti-Christ.
It is going to get worse. Already now, we look back at the nineties, and say compared to today, they didn't seem all that bad. But coming from the sixties, and seventies, and early eighties, the late eighties and nineties looked like a horror show to many Christians.
Crack, rampant crime in the cities, AIDS, sexual promiscuity that seemed to make the '60's look tame; materialism, legalism, cultural wars (which by the way, Christians just resigned themselves to as a lost battle), the advancement of the sexually immoral behaviors out in the open, the beginning of the open brainwashing of our children in the schools, the open ridicule of men in society, on TV and in the movies, personal vanity as evidenced by the skyrocketing plastic surgeries that decade, and so on.
That is just off the top of my head. And now, I look back, and say to myself, wow, they do not seem so bad as compared to now.
"As in the days of Noah..."
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No, Holland has abortion, euthanasia, gay marriage, living together instead of marrying, legalized pot, mostly atheists for decades. There was hope for Nineve.
Revival always comes when it's at its worst but we have to cry out and pray for it. Joel 2.
Isaiah 60
*Arise, shine;
For your light has come!
And the glory of the*Lord*is risen upon you.
2*For behold, the darkness shall cover the earth,
And deep darkness the people;
But the*Lord*will arise over you,
And His glory will be seen upon you.
3*The Gentiles shall come to your light,
And kings to the brightness of your rising.
Revival always comes when it's at its worst but we have to cry out and pray for it. Joel 2.
Isaiah 60
*Arise, shine;
For your light has come!
And the glory of the*Lord*is risen upon you.
2*For behold, the darkness shall cover the earth,
And deep darkness the people;
But the*Lord*will arise over you,
And His glory will be seen upon you.
3*The Gentiles shall come to your light,
And kings to the brightness of your rising.
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yeah...well...pretty much
so pray...we all need to...what we have in Canada at the moment is really going to hurt but folks voted so
when someone can lie with impunity, the entire world finds out about it, and that same person can run for the office of the President of the United States? you KNOW the devil has really deceived folks
frankly, I don't care much for Rubio or the other guy either. What Rubio is doing right now with regards to his mockery and so on, would instantly change my mind if I had been inclined to vote for him. What's he going to do if ISIS invades from the outside (it's already inside)...send party favors and tickets to a funny movie? don't get me started and I do have concerns...my husband is American and he is wanting to live in the US...me? I'm fine with that cause I don't think we can much avoid what is going on...however it is obviously safer in some areas than in others. We are in the country right now on 7 acres. but I really dislike it here!
so pray...we all need to...what we have in Canada at the moment is really going to hurt but folks voted so
when someone can lie with impunity, the entire world finds out about it, and that same person can run for the office of the President of the United States? you KNOW the devil has really deceived folks
frankly, I don't care much for Rubio or the other guy either. What Rubio is doing right now with regards to his mockery and so on, would instantly change my mind if I had been inclined to vote for him. What's he going to do if ISIS invades from the outside (it's already inside)...send party favors and tickets to a funny movie? don't get me started and I do have concerns...my husband is American and he is wanting to live in the US...me? I'm fine with that cause I don't think we can much avoid what is going on...however it is obviously safer in some areas than in others. We are in the country right now on 7 acres. but I really dislike it here!
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Righteousness exalteth a nation: but sin is a reproach to any people.
Proverbs 14:34
I agree there are very good believers in America, some of whom are on this site....but I would use the example of Jeremiah in the Bible, jeremiah warned about judgment but the people would not repent....Jeremiah was a very good man and godly. What happened? Israel/Judah was decimated and taken into captivity but Jeremiah was spared...now you can ask did God spare the nation for Jeremiah...the answer is no...but He did spare Jeremiah because His heart was right with God....just because a place has believers does not make it immune to God's judgment....God will take care of His own but will still judge sin as He always has....
Proverbs 14:34
I agree there are very good believers in America, some of whom are on this site....but I would use the example of Jeremiah in the Bible, jeremiah warned about judgment but the people would not repent....Jeremiah was a very good man and godly. What happened? Israel/Judah was decimated and taken into captivity but Jeremiah was spared...now you can ask did God spare the nation for Jeremiah...the answer is no...but He did spare Jeremiah because His heart was right with God....just because a place has believers does not make it immune to God's judgment....God will take care of His own but will still judge sin as He always has....
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No he said later he would get killed.
Don't know if it's true.
Where is America in Bible Prophecy? - Walid Shoebat
Don't know if it's true.
Where is America in Bible Prophecy? - Walid Shoebat
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from what I understand, Spain is actually the most accepting of homosexuality..further, the US is not the leader when it comes to practicing that sin
Europe is actually ahead of the US by a long shot on that one
Folks like to call the US a Christian nation, but to the best of my knowledge, the only nation that ever
actually had God as their ruler was Israel but they insisted on a king and was only downhill from there
Don't take this personally, but it pretty much irks me when people post about prosperity preachers and false prophets and whatever else they think is something to point to. God hates sin ... period and the entire world is pretty much steeped in it
There are still many excellent preachers who testify and teach to the truth of the Bible.
I'm not even American, but it seems other countries often like to downgrade the US to some kind of rotten tomatoe
That's far from the entire truth
one more thing...do you have ANY idea of all the so called prophecies out there or how many predicted the end of the US for the year 2015 and guess what it did not happen?
I trust in the Bible...and if I don't understand something, best to just admit that and simply pray and put all your trust in God because He can and does deliver...even entire nations!
Don't take this as any kind of personal insult or something...I noticed your post but I have seen hundreds just like it both here and in other forums...not to mention on TV
Europe is actually ahead of the US by a long shot on that one
Folks like to call the US a Christian nation, but to the best of my knowledge, the only nation that ever
actually had God as their ruler was Israel but they insisted on a king and was only downhill from there
Don't take this personally, but it pretty much irks me when people post about prosperity preachers and false prophets and whatever else they think is something to point to. God hates sin ... period and the entire world is pretty much steeped in it
There are still many excellent preachers who testify and teach to the truth of the Bible.
I'm not even American, but it seems other countries often like to downgrade the US to some kind of rotten tomatoe
That's far from the entire truth
one more thing...do you have ANY idea of all the so called prophecies out there or how many predicted the end of the US for the year 2015 and guess what it did not happen?
I trust in the Bible...and if I don't understand something, best to just admit that and simply pray and put all your trust in God because He can and does deliver...even entire nations!
Don't take this as any kind of personal insult or something...I noticed your post but I have seen hundreds just like it both here and in other forums...not to mention on TV
YES....Romans 1 and the embracement of homosexuality proves a reprobate mind void of judgment and to expect nothing but judgment...when a nation is ripe God is clear about the types of leaders it will have and it's course...we are about to be judged...financial collapse, civil war, destroyed in a strike from the north followed by active invasion....only those not found will be preserved!!!
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I am not "downgrading" the US to a rotten tomato lol....I am speaking the truth as to what the elites who run your country (america or even canada for that matter) try out their policies in your country before exporting it to others (for example Obama will not provide relief aid anymore to countries who oppose homosexuality) they are trying to blackmail other poorer countries to accept homosexuality (which is now legal in the US by way of same sex marriage) in order to get aid...most of these countries still refused...
We can agree to disagree on all of this but let me just share my response:
On an economic front....america practices qe or what's known as quantitative easing (printing/digitizing fake money to stabilize a broken economy) guess what Japan has been copying the qe model and now is doing the same thing to float their economy....
I use these examples to show that like it or not, whatever america does is copied around the world good or bad...and that is a fact...when it comes to technology, fashion, entertainment, science etc...
One cannot deny that America in the last 5 years has taken the mantle to "promote gay rights" agenda from europe which I agree was the first to get all crazy about this gay stuff...
As to prophecies, it depends on the source: harold camping for example is a fraud He made assertions that the world would end in 2012 but it didn't and he lied....
Duduman's prophecy about his home country romania was fulfilled a year after he said it would happen...so i still think his prophecy is credible along with others (many) on youtube who say similar things to his vision. Of course there are many people who just want a name for themself so they come on youtube and put up some junk to get attention...but I believe dudman was sincere ( he suffered terribly in romania his testimony is inspiring) and would not do that just to make a name for himself...
Even if you don't believe prophecy ...look at the economy... these are facts that the media won't tell you...america is not doing well and is on the brink of collapse like it or not...facts are facts...(from previous blog article)
And it is very true – Sears is doing horribly, but they are far from alone. The following are 13 major retailers that are closing down stores…
#1 Sears lost 580 million dollars in the fourth quarter of 2015 alone, and they are scheduled to close at least 50 more “unprofitable stores” by the end of this year.
#2 It is being reported that Sports Authority will file for bankruptcy in March. Some news reports have indicated that around 200 stores may close, but at this point it is not known how many of their 450 stores will be able to stay open.
#3 For decades, Kohl’s has been growing aggressively, but now it plans to shutter 18 stores in 2016.
#4 Target has just finished closing 13 stores in the United States.
#5 Best Buy closed 30 stores last year, and it says that more store closings are likely in the months to come.
#6 Office Depot plans to close a total of 400 stores by the end of 2016.
The next seven examples come from one of my previous articles…
#7 Wal-Mart is closing 269 stores, including 154 inside the United States.
#8 K-Mart is closing down more than two dozen stores over the next several months.
#9 J.C. Penney will be permanently shutting down 47 more stores after closing a total of 40 stores in 2015.
#10 Macy’s has decided that it needs to shutter 36 stores and lay off approximately 2,500 employees.
#11 The Gap is in the process of closing 175 stores in North America.
#12 Aeropostale is in the process of closing 84 stores all across America.
#13 Finish Line has announced that 150 stores will be shutting down over the next few years.
If this doesn't scare a person they must be very brave....
We can agree to disagree on all of this but let me just share my response:
On an economic front....america practices qe or what's known as quantitative easing (printing/digitizing fake money to stabilize a broken economy) guess what Japan has been copying the qe model and now is doing the same thing to float their economy....
I use these examples to show that like it or not, whatever america does is copied around the world good or bad...and that is a fact...when it comes to technology, fashion, entertainment, science etc...
One cannot deny that America in the last 5 years has taken the mantle to "promote gay rights" agenda from europe which I agree was the first to get all crazy about this gay stuff...
As to prophecies, it depends on the source: harold camping for example is a fraud He made assertions that the world would end in 2012 but it didn't and he lied....
Duduman's prophecy about his home country romania was fulfilled a year after he said it would happen...so i still think his prophecy is credible along with others (many) on youtube who say similar things to his vision. Of course there are many people who just want a name for themself so they come on youtube and put up some junk to get attention...but I believe dudman was sincere ( he suffered terribly in romania his testimony is inspiring) and would not do that just to make a name for himself...
Even if you don't believe prophecy ...look at the economy... these are facts that the media won't tell you...america is not doing well and is on the brink of collapse like it or not...facts are facts...(from previous blog article)
And it is very true – Sears is doing horribly, but they are far from alone. The following are 13 major retailers that are closing down stores…
#1 Sears lost 580 million dollars in the fourth quarter of 2015 alone, and they are scheduled to close at least 50 more “unprofitable stores” by the end of this year.
#2 It is being reported that Sports Authority will file for bankruptcy in March. Some news reports have indicated that around 200 stores may close, but at this point it is not known how many of their 450 stores will be able to stay open.
#3 For decades, Kohl’s has been growing aggressively, but now it plans to shutter 18 stores in 2016.
#4 Target has just finished closing 13 stores in the United States.
#5 Best Buy closed 30 stores last year, and it says that more store closings are likely in the months to come.
#6 Office Depot plans to close a total of 400 stores by the end of 2016.
The next seven examples come from one of my previous articles…
#7 Wal-Mart is closing 269 stores, including 154 inside the United States.
#8 K-Mart is closing down more than two dozen stores over the next several months.
#9 J.C. Penney will be permanently shutting down 47 more stores after closing a total of 40 stores in 2015.
#10 Macy’s has decided that it needs to shutter 36 stores and lay off approximately 2,500 employees.
#11 The Gap is in the process of closing 175 stores in North America.
#12 Aeropostale is in the process of closing 84 stores all across America.
#13 Finish Line has announced that 150 stores will be shutting down over the next few years.
If this doesn't scare a person they must be very brave....