Are We Too Far Gone?

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The United States used to be a Christian nation but, sadly, that is no longer true. This country will be in continual decline due to corruptive leadership at all levels. This country doesn't need revival, it needs Jesus.
And the presidency needs (of the limited few we have to choose from) Ben Carson.
 
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I am not "downgrading" the US to a rotten tomato lol....I am speaking the truth as to what the elites who run your country (america or even canada for that matter) try out their policies in your country before exporting it to others (for example Obama will not provide relief aid anymore to countries who oppose homosexuality) they are trying to blackmail other poorer countries to accept homosexuality (which is now legal in the US by way of same sex marriage) in order to get aid...most of these countries still refused...
We can agree to disagree on all of this but let me just share my response:

On an economic front....america practices qe or what's known as quantitative easing (printing/digitizing fake money to stabilize a broken economy) guess what Japan has been copying the qe model and now is doing the same thing to float their economy....

I use these examples to show that like it or not, whatever america does is copied around the world good or bad...and that is a fact...when it comes to technology, fashion, entertainment, science etc...

One cannot deny that America in the last 5 years has taken the mantle to "promote gay rights" agenda from europe which I agree was the first to get all crazy about this gay stuff...

As to prophecies, it depends on the source: harold camping for example is a fraud He made assertions that the world would end in 2012 but it didn't and he lied....

Duduman's prophecy about his home country romania was fulfilled a year after he said it would happen...so i still think his prophecy is credible along with others (many) on youtube who say similar things to his vision. Of course there are many people who just want a name for themself so they come on youtube and put up some junk to get attention...but I believe dudman was sincere ( he suffered terribly in romania his testimony is inspiring) and would not do that just to make a name for himself...

Even if you don't believe prophecy ...look at the economy... these are facts that the media won't tell you...america is not doing well and is on the brink of collapse like it or not...facts are facts...(from previous blog article)

And it is very true – Sears is doing horribly, but they are far from alone. The following are 13 major retailers that are closing down stores…

#1 Sears lost 580 million dollars in the fourth quarter of 2015 alone, and they are scheduled to close at least 50 more “unprofitable stores” by the end of this year.

#2 It is being reported that Sports Authority will file for bankruptcy in March. Some news reports have indicated that around 200 stores may close, but at this point it is not known how many of their 450 stores will be able to stay open.

#3 For decades, Kohl’s has been growing aggressively, but now it plans to shutter 18 stores in 2016.

#4 Target has just finished closing 13 stores in the United States.

#5 Best Buy closed 30 stores last year, and it says that more store closings are likely in the months to come.

#6 Office Depot plans to close a total of 400 stores by the end of 2016.

The next seven examples come from one of my previous articles

#7 Wal-Mart is closing 269 stores, including 154 inside the United States.

#8 K-Mart is closing down more than two dozen stores over the next several months.

#9 J.C. Penney will be permanently shutting down 47 more stores after closing a total of 40 stores in 2015.

#10 Macy’s has decided that it needs to shutter 36 stores and lay off approximately 2,500 employees.

#11 The Gap is in the process of closing 175 stores in North America.

#12 Aeropostale is in the process of closing 84 stores all across America.

#13 Finish Line has announced that 150 stores will be shutting down over the next few years.

If this doesn't scare a person they must be very brave....

so, like, where are we told to be scared?

that's just what the prophet of doom mentality does

and German women are being attacked by mobs of 'refugee' young muslim men in their own streets after dark cause that's what those bad boys do in their own country.

read about the depression years....it can always be worse

ps: I did not say you were downgrading the US to a rotten tomatoe...let's not exaggerate

pss: it ain't my country dude...that thar red and white thingy is a CANADIAN flag...we are not looking to be assimilated...not yet anyway
 
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And the presidency needs (of the limited few we have to choose from) Ben Carson.
cause he would know how to operate?

sorry...in a silly mood today in case no one can tell....;)
 
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And the presidency needs (of the limited few we have to choose from) Ben Carson.
BEN Would be an awesome president as would Kaish?... I don't understand why his handlers aren't telling him to SPEAK UP!! Have a command presence!

DT get's ppls attention like it or not.....
 
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BEN Would be an awesome president as would Kaish?... I don't understand why his handlers aren't telling him to SPEAK UP!! Have a command presence!

DT get's ppls attention like it or not.....
They probably are. But I think he chooses to remain true to who he is, rather than "perform" to meet the public's expectations of what a man is. We think you have to be a loud, arrogant, pushy and demanding ape. He has proven that isn't necessary, but few of us can see it... Calm, cool wisdom, right there in front of us, yet we are blind to it. We want bluster and threats. We want, as Israel did, a "David", a Warrior King, and who did God send to them? Jesus. They rejected Him, too, because they, like us, did not want a peaceful, calm, focused man to follow.
 
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so, like, where are we told to be scared?
I know about the great depression of the 30s and the dustbowl etc... we are not meant to be scared but aware people automatically dismiss things that make them uncomfortable but the truth is even if it makes you uncomfortable you still need to be aware of it because it may help your life...

I don't know where you were going with the muslim refugee thing...so can't really put a answer to that except that europe will be devestated by the economic and cultural devestation these migrants will cause...

Your phrase:
"I'm not even American, but it seems other countries often like to downgrade the US to some kind of rotten tomatoe"
the implication is b/c im from another country I have it out for the US which could not be further from the truth....I love the US (especially the people are nice) but its policies/leadership are not of God and are orchestrated by corrupt people....

What happens in the US does affect canada in terms of their currency strength because the US helps determine the oil price, what is known as the petro dollar and that affects the canadian dollar which is also tied to it's energy/oil sector (affected by US policies)

How & Why Oil Impacts The Canadian Dollar (CAD) | Investopedia

Because of the horribly low oil price /barrel that is why goods in Canada are skyrocketing in price....I heard one respected economist (rob kirby a -canadian btw) says 1 head of cauliflower is $7-9 compared to $2-3 was the price just a few weeks/months ago...why bc the price of oil drives the whole market and affects all goods either directly (price of transportation) or indirectly (increased transportation cost and an increased acquisition cost is passed onto consumer who sees higher prices at the grocery store).
 
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They probably are. But I think he chooses to remain true to who he is, rather than "perform" to meet the public's expectations of what a man is. We think you have to be a loud, arrogant, pushy and demanding ape. He has proven that isn't necessary, but few of us can see it... Calm, cool wisdom, right there in front of us, yet we are blind to it. We want bluster and threats. We want, as Israel did, a "David", a Warrior King, and who did God send to them? Jesus. They rejected Him, too, because they, like us, did not want a peaceful, calm, focused man to follow.

You are correct sir.... if only that would get one elected in this day and age....:/
 
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Your phrase:
"I'm not even American, but it seems other countries often like to downgrade the US to some kind of rotten tomatoe"
the implication is b/c im from another country I have it out for the US which could not be further from the truth....I love the US (especially the people are nice) but its policies/leadership are not of God and are orchestrated by corrupt people....



yeah...that's not the implication at all which is why I wrote this:



Don't take this as any kind of personal insult or something...I noticed your post but I have seen hundreds just like it both here and in other forums.

can you name one country that has policies that God gave them?

what? no you can't

well there you have it

please re-read my comment regarding not taking what I said personally until you believe it cause that is exactly how I meant it


 

sharkwhales

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Seeking opinions....


Do you believe America has fallen so far morally, we are now on the path of no return?

No; there have been awakenings and revivals in the past and they can happen again. Typically the worse things get, the more people feel a desire for something from the Holy Spirit.

In any case I think the body of christ needs to focus on pursuing God if they want to see a change.
 
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yeah...that's not the implication at all which is why I wrote this:



Don't take this as any kind of personal insult or something...I noticed your post but I have seen hundreds just like it both here and in other forums.

can you name one country that has policies that God gave them?

what? no you can't

well there you have it

please re-read my comment regarding not taking what I said personally until you believe it cause that is exactly how I meant it



God never gave policies to countries (except OT Israel) what I meant is Obama and the true oligarchy are making policies because they are not of God aka they are satanic...

Godly leadership usually makes godly policies...same is true for the opposite...and no I'm not offended...im just pointing out what your statement was implying about people for lack of a better term "hating" on the US for the heck of it....which sometimes occurs to be honest...but to be clear is not my stance, only trying to present the information...that's all...
 
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God never gave policies to countries (except OT Israel) what I meant is Obama and the true oligarchy are making policies because they are not of God aka they are satanic...

Godly leadership usually makes godly policies...same is true for the opposite...and no I'm not offended...im just pointing out what your statement was implying about people for lack of a better term "hating" on the US for the heck of it....which sometimes occurs to be honest...but to be clear is not my stance, only trying to present the information...that's all...
Look...you made a mistake!

I specifically told you I was not addressing your post to you personally and you still read it that way

which indicates to me you know what I was addressing

every country in the world is NOT following God...that is my point

I did not say anything personal to you...but you decided to take it that way

for me, that kind of response gets old real quick

that's it for me now...thanks! :) enuff with the derailing
 
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Whatever floats your boat....facts are facts...
 

john832

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Seeking opinions....


Do you believe America has fallen so far morally, we are now on the path of no return?
Yep. Please note that there is no sense of needing repentance in this country. We are just fine.

Get ready for a very rough ride.
 
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Seeking opinions....


Do you believe America has fallen so far morally, we are now on the path of no return?
I don't think we are on a path of no return, but things have gotten pretty bad, in my opinion. Has it always been this way?
 
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The only hope is for the US to making sin legal and rightiousness illegal.
I really don't see that happing so judgment must come.
 
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The only hope is for the US to making sin legal and rightiousness illegal.
I really don't see that happing so judgment must come.
Seems I left stop out between to and making.
 

Billyd

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A while back I was sitting in the waiting room of our local hospital. A man there was using some of the vilest language that I have ever heard on his cellphone. It took me about five minutes, but I told him that I had spent 21 years as a sailor, and in that time I had never heard such vile language. He looked at me, gave me an evil stare, got up and left. When I left he was sitting in his car with the windows rolled up, still talking on the phone. At least only one person had to listen to him.

No we aren't too far gone. We just need to stand for what is right in the eyes of God.
 

Billyd

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The only hope is for the US to making sin legal and rightiousness illegal.
I really don't see that happing so judgment must come.
I think you need to revisit that one.