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Angela53510 said:
Actually, being created in the image of God does not mean that God is created in our image.

God is perfect. He created perfect earthly beings. Then, sin came into the world. Disobedience to God.

The consequence of sin, has been death and destruction. The human genome has gone downhill. For instance, both in the early books of the Bible, and in ancient Egypt, people married their sisters and half sisters. That is actually how the line of succession for the Pharaohs of Egypt was passed down. They kept the line "pure" that way.

Abraham married his half sister, Isaac married a cousin and so did Jacob. A lot of inbreeding, but no genetic mutations. But when the Israelites had intermarried for 400 years in Egypt, the level of mutations started to go up, and God forbade the Hebrews to marry close relatives. Even today, Tay-Sachs - a autosomal recessive genetic disorder is found mostly in Ashkenazi Jews.

As we get farther from creation, our brokenness is producing more and more mutations and deviations. Being gay is a deviation from God's plan for a man and woman to be together.

Another thing to consider, is the studies of overcrowding of rats. In studies which put rats into apartment-like buildings, no access to the outdoors, and overcrowded, usually one dominant male took over the compound. The other males became homosexual to gratify their needs because the females were not available. Whereas the same variety of rats, when kept with enough space, access to sunshine and nature, no homosexuality came out. I think this is so relevant to our society. Many live far from the natural world, or the world the way God created it. People become terribly overcrowded in urban centers. Besides homosexuality, violence also results.

I also know a man who was a medical missionary to Cameroon. He said the whole time he lived and worked as a doctor there, he only met one homosexual. Apparently, it was not socially acceptable to be gay. And so no one was. Which indicates that being gay is a choice!

So no, God did not create homosexuality at all. He created a perfect world, with a perfect man and woman. But sadly and this is the whole point of why Jesus came - man and woman sinned, and death and pain and suffering were the result.
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that's too much Bible and common sense and actual facts Angela

now you should know better than that

can't rep or would...sorry...need to spread it around


Actually, being created in the image of God does not mean that God is created in our image.
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my favorite line from your post :eek:
 
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Willie-T said:
I'll be one of the first to stand up for welcoming homosexuals into our worship buildings, and to befriend them. And, at times, I may be the loudest....... But don't try to shovel any of the "stuff" you just wrote. Freely continuing in ANY kind of sin has nothing to do with following Jesus.
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Good point! If you love Jesus you would try to please Him. However, if the bible stories make no sense to you then you are free to be gay or whatever you want as long as you don't break the law. By the way, you said you would befriend gays but on the other hand you still put a big stamp on their front stating sinners. Unless you are like one of them, you won't understand all the troubles they have gone through! And unless you understand them, you will still continue to call them sinners!
 
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MoeT said:
Good point! If you love Jesus you would try to please Him. However, if the bible stories make no sense to you then you are free to be gay or whatever you want as long as you don't break the law. By the way, you said you would befriend gays but on the other hand you still put a big stamp on their front stating sinners. Unless you are like one of them, you won't understand all the troubles they have gone through! And unless you understand them, you will still continue to call them sinners!
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Yea willie...you folks that claim your all gay friendly and PC should try to behave better...:(
 
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ember said:
that's too much Bible and common sense and actual facts Angela

now you should know better than that

can't rep or would...sorry...need to spread it around




my favorite line from your post :eek:
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Ill rep her..she has earned it the last couple of days :)
 
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MoeT said:
Good point! If you love Jesus you would try to please Him. However, if the bible stories make no sense to you then you are free to be gay or whatever you want as long as you don't break the law. By the way, you said you would befriend gays but on the other hand you still put a big stamp on their front stating sinners. Unless you are like one of them, you won't understand all the troubles they have gone through! And unless you understand them, you will still continue to call them sinners!
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We understand the 'being' of sin in another sinner, because we have all fallen short, regardless of it's specific nature of particular offense, and it is this commonality that we can bear witness, and have empathy for each and every human counter-part. But the Scriptures that make no sense to you is not an... "ignorance clause"... for pause, or by-passing Gods Judgements-- be forewarned!

He promises that He Himself will give us understanding of His Word thru His Holy Spirit, if you seek His truths with all your heart, soul, and strength. We are free to love Homosexuals honestly and genuinely, because He Himself also gives us that as well. And it is He Himself that makes the statement of right and wrong in existence, not the common experience of the sin itself, thru common-sinship. This is not us claiming or labelling, it is He teaching, rebuking, correcting, and training us in the pervasiveness of this act, always caring enough for the person to love them effectually.

As long as we ourselves keep our pride out of it, and His demeanor remains in us, it is, then, His answer in the ..."Big stamp" ...as you called it, in unveiling what the 'Spiritual reality' is in way of love based on this subject. Jesus understands all the troubles of every particular sin, we don't have to, for if we understand it's being we understand all we need to know to make a correct decision...based on the laws of original sin, For it is found in the nature of them all.

It's not understanding sin better that will free you, or even this particular sins circumstances, It is understanding the need to need Gods understanding! And, as a result to need to leave adoption of principles to allow it to be OK as useless.. Then, real love of all sinners can commence, Homosexuals, thieves, even the Murderers.God sent His Son while we were all these things to show His love for us. A peaceful victorious overwhelming love of acceptance. What do you gain in plan 'B' of that? Maybe, not having to pay the cost of change in the part where it will change you toward love all the more?
 
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burning anything that doesn't EdfTY Christ,
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In the NT, how bout all those folks that burned their sorcery books, clothes, and all the stuff that was of the devil...book of Acts

They had it right if you ask me

but then it was their own property...do not adivse ripping down someone elses anything and burning it
 
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